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Evangelion ?: How did Lilith end up incapacitated / restrained / crucified?
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 1:52 PM Author: startled azn parlour I feel like this is never covered; why is Lilith incapacitated and captured when presumably it had free reign for millions of years once the Spear of Longinus took out Adam. How did Gehirn / SEELE manage to do this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057875) |
Date: August 23rd, 2022 1:58 PM Author: Lavender lay Lilith had been incapacitated for millions of years, since the first impact. SEELE was maintaining her growth at just below the level needed to start instrumentality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057900) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:01 PM Author: startled azn parlour Going to need to see some serious scholarly work to evidence this. Lilith being incapacitated from the First Impact seems to be in tension with her presence on Earth being able to initiate the spread of life that would ultimately culminate in humanity (Lilins). Per the Evangelion fandom wiki: "With Adam incapacitated [by the activation of its Spear of Longinus], the progeny of Lilith, including humans, flourished." See also, "Lilith then spread the primordial ooze from which 'normal' terrestrial life on Earth evolved over the course of billions of years (bacteria, fishes, insects, etc.), which culminated in the human race."
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:02 PM Author: Lavender lay Please refer to https://evangelion.fandom.com/wiki/First_Impact (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057937) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:03 PM Author: startled azn parlour Counsel,
As we've discussed through our meet and confer on Evangelion origin lore last week at the sauna, this precedent has already been raised and does not seem responsive to the issue immediately confronting us. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:13 PM Author: Lavender lay The first race wished to seed life.
They sent out seeds of life, including Adam and Lilith.
The former was a Power seed of life, the latter a Knowledge seed of life.
Each seed of life had a lance of longinus, to incapacitate any other seed of life that wound up on the same planet.
Lilith during the First Impact crashed into Japan in her Black Moon. This destroyed her Lance of Longinus. So to enforce the rule, Adam's LoL incapacitated him, while Lilith seeded life on planet Earth.
Thus, the LoL was incapacitating Adam, but Lilith was held in stasis due to the crash and letting out her goo. Thank.
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:15 PM Author: startled azn parlour "but Lilith was held in stasis due to the crash and letting out her goo."
But where is the actual evidence for this. I understand the theory but is there textual / media evidence for this?
Also note the corollary inference here, which is that these seed angels are capable of performing their designated task (seed life) in an incapacitated state. Can we dig into this? My presumption was they were actively involved in the task, more like a maker in his workshop. Any precedent either way?
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:21 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate there's a doujin that covers this. one sec.
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:26 PM Author: startled azn parlour mods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058091) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:24 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate the maker were the First Ancestorial Race that made all this in the first place. The Seeds of Life are just that, seeds. The lore is based on the assumption of macroevolution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058077) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:27 PM Author: startled azn parlour We could try to reason from parallelism. Do we know about Adam's activity from the period from the arrival of his White Moon to the arrival of Lilith's Black Moon? Is there evidence in the media for Adam either actively operating on the planet or else being in an incapacitated state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058093) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:35 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate i dont think we have any textual evidence either way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058133) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:52 PM Author: startled azn parlour There's always a way. If we need to we can engage in reverse textual structural analysis aided by comparative textual draws with augmented LCL. The truth must not be lost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058229) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:58 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate you could probably get a gofundme together if you made a good enough presentation (videos) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058266) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:35 PM Author: Lavender lay It's not discussed much in the series. You need to get the character books. See https://evangelion.fandom.com/wiki/What_Is_Canon%3F (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058131) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:40 PM Author: startled azn parlour *cums* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058158) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:43 PM Author: Lavender lay Gwern is such a nerd MVP, likely because he is very Tall.
https://www.gwern.net/otaku |
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Date: November 29th, 2022 11:28 PM Author: startled azn parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45561834) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:02 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate life sprang from her primordial ooze (slime pit) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057938) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:02 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate yes, she was inside the Black Moon the entire time and Tokyo-3 was built around it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057932) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:03 PM Author: Lavender lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057939) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:06 PM Author: startled azn parlour So your theory is that the First Impact incapacitates Lilith but some combination of automated process within the Black Moon plus components of Lilith's incapacitated body (her slime pit ooze) go on to form the building blocks of life? In other words, there's never a period from the arrival of the Black Moon where Lilith is striding about the surface of the Earth doing cool shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45057969) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:21 PM Author: flushed hairless kitty cat roommate that sounds correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058059) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 2:41 PM Author: purple impressive center sneaky criminal spoilers faggot. wow. literally on episode 3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45058159) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2022 11:10 PM Author: startled azn parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5178602&forum_id=2#45060960) |