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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:06 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon Powerful, truck-sized gas turbines exist that produce up to 35 MW each- it's just a matter of getting money to buy them and that should be no problem once Congress passes its bill:
"If Kyiv, for example, is equipped with 10 or 12 units, it means that Kyiv will be on the safe side for all critical infrastructure; no risks with heating, no risks with water channels that might lose electricity supply." Kharchenko estimated that 35 to 40 such gas turbines would cover the critical infrastructure needs of all Ukraine's major cities.
Kharchenko suggested Ukraine needs around $250 million for its gas turbine needs and $200 million for additional transformers. The $53 million committed by the U.S. is "a good start," he said, "but we need a little bit more. It's quite expensive equipment and Russians know very well what to target."
Gas turbines would prove more difficult targets. "They're very small, container-sized," Kharchenko said. "They're very hard to find where they are installed. They're not on old Soviet maps which they use to attack our energy infrastructure."
Kharchenko said conversations about supplying gas turbines are underway with partners including the U.S., South Korea, Norway, Japan, and several United Nations agencies. "We've already found a lot of units," Kharchenko said. "Now we're looking for money to buy them."
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:24 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575436) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:27 PM Author: Wine Giraffe How do you transport all the gas for these? Where does it come from? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575440) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:28 PM Author: Slap-happy library idiot My first thought, you can’t hide that part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575445) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:31 PM Author: Wine Giraffe Keep in mind, there's a huge gas shortage in Europe. It can't come in by sea. The pipelines are offline. So trucking in gas (requires tons of fuel for the trucks, which Ukraine also has a shortage of) to power huge numbers of gas generators that will be constantly droned? Doesn't seem viable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575461) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:34 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon Oh it's plenty viable for the right price, no matter how much your masturbational fantasies about freezing Ukrainians might wish otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575472) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria Cr
TMF’s pecker gets soft when he starts to suspect that Ukrainians aren’t suffering enough |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:44 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575524) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:49 PM Author: Wine Giraffe Based on the numerous vids I've seen they're definitely "suffering enough."
For anyone that doubts it, here's the last NASA view from space: https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?v=7.388711312903588,40.6384826494629,54.47868761405314,64.30610094665525&l=Reference_Labels_15m,Reference_Features_15m,Coastlines_15m(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_Thermal_Anomalies_375m_Day(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_Thermal_Anomalies_375m_Night(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_DayNightBand_AtSensor_M15(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_DayNightBand_At_Sensor_Radiance,VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_BandsM11-I2-I1(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden)&lg=true&t=2022-12-02-T16%3A00%3A00Z
Remember, I said from day 1 that this was an awful idea and that a war with Russia, which is effectively a civil war, will be extremely bloody and last for years. YOU have been cheering this on along with other pro-Ukraine tards that seem to want this to continue forever while you sit in a comfy and warm American dwelling. As you said, you don't pay taxes (you're poor) so what's the problem? |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:52 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria omg it’s dark at night, whatever will Ukrainians do?! best surrender to the mongrel horde!
and lol @ your childish assertions about whos responsible for this war, you weird ghoul
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Azure yapping center famous landscape painting "effectively a civil war"
lol |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:57 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria TMF is a bigger scumbag than benzo at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575593) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Azure yapping center famous landscape painting he still refers to kyiv/sumy/etc as a feint. its mind boggling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575599) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:03 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria Russians don’t have much to brag about except for high culture stuff from 150 years ago. but the one thing (almost the only thing) is their reputation for being “tough” and having a strong “military,” so you can see how desperate they are to cling to this belief, against all evidence to contrary
wouldn’t be a big deal except we gave these traitors leeches passports for some reason |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:31 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon Did you read the article? Fuel trucks are getting a fast track into Ukraine. Yes, it's expensive, but Congress is about to approve a billion dollars - literally - for Ukraine's energy needs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575459) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:33 PM Author: Wine Giraffe See above. Ukraine doesn't have fuel for trucks either. So now they're going to be trucking in fuel AND natural gas all of which is going to be hit by cheap small drones which are being mass produced? This isn't going to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575466) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:44 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria who lied to you and said there aren’t enough fuel trucks?
Lmao, it’s so sad how you have to create an alternate reality in order to get through the day |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon Yeah, I'm sure Ukraine is planning to spend 250 million on these gas turbines only not to use them for lack of gas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575542) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:34 PM Author: Slap-happy library idiot “Hey vlad, what’s that line of 50 tanker trucks per hour headed to that square thing?” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575470) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:04 PM Author: Ruddy Effete Double Fault Sure would be neat if actual American citizens got a billion dollar energy subsidy as CoL explodes throughout the US but that's okay Another third world country and the parasitic state department hangers-on that sponsor and profit from it need another blank check from the taxpayer, my tax bill is more than happy to pay it |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 8:14 PM Author: ocher wild office juggernaut Tons of americans do get energy subsidies. I have renters that get $2000 per winter for heating, water bill is covered too. Plus all kinds of rebate and grant programs for winterizing, insulation etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45576905) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:28 PM Author: canary box office What happens when Russia starts droning these turbines? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575444) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:29 PM Author: Wine Giraffe We spend several hundred million more dollars to replace them while a bunch of politicians and politically connected individuals get a cut. During that time people in these cities won't have power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575449) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria I think you meant to say “rubles” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575532) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:47 PM Author: Wine Giraffe Nope, dollars. These generators won't be cheap, getting them there won't be cheap, fueling them won't be cheap, replacing them won't be cheap. All of it paid for with tax dollars or printed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575541) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:50 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria Russia has plenty of tax “dollars” according to you Russiacucks
or are you larping as a concerned American taxpayer again? lol |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:54 PM Author: Wine Giraffe You're too dumb to follow this simple chain? The US (that's the country we all live in and pay taxes to, except those of us too poor) is paying money to corrupt defense contractors to deliver these things to Ukraine at a huge mark up and enormous transportation costs. The people picking those costs up aren't Russians or even Ukrainians, it is Americans. This is true whether that is from tax revenue, from new debt, or from printed dollars which translates into inflation. It will certainly add to inflation because new oil will need to be used to truck all that gas into Ukraine, driving the prices of both oil and gas up. That's aside from currency devaluation. I know I'm basically talking to myself here since you have no idea what I'm talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575575) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria you’re not American, that’s why your “we” talk is so weird
and you’ll leave to Israel soon enough as the winds continue to blow the way they are |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:18 PM Author: Wine Giraffe I only have US citizenship, so I've got nowhere else to go.
I actually don't have a good fallback. A part Jewish Christian isn't going to have a good time in Israel.
Florida is probably the best place on earth for someone like me. Tons of Russians around, good laws on taxes, guns, CCW, weather, and so on. |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:31 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria there’s nothing American about you
nothing |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:32 PM Author: Wine Giraffe (guy who self-deported to Ukraine and now shills for Ukraine but contributes absolutely nothing to the US) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575736) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:59 PM Author: Sadistic sound barrier genital piercing I am continually impressed by how dumb u are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575602) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:24 PM Author: Wine Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575698) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:33 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon As the article said, they have to find them first, and I'm sure they will place them in areas with protection.
Worst comes to worst, buy a new one. It's not like transformers where they've used up the ones Ukraine needs and it takes a year to build them. There are a lot of these gas turbines around the world. |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:28 PM Author: exhilarant beta space ape fuck giving a cent to Ukraine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575447) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:30 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon Funny how it's always shit human beings like yourself with that view. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575453) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:32 PM Author: canary box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575464) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:33 PM Author: Wine Giraffe Anyone with half a brain sees that he is right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575468) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:36 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-majority-of-americans-support-continued-aid-for-ukraine/6858460.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575481) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 4:35 PM Author: Wine Giraffe Right. 57% of Americans being retards sounds about right. That said, everyone should know better than to trust polls at this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575745) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:37 AM Author: Brass place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45578116) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:39 PM Author: exhilarant beta space ape funny how shitlibs like you care more about people in a shithole thousands of miles away than people in your own country with problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575495) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon I admire people fighting and suffering to defend their own country from invasion more than I do the average soft and selfish American, that is true.
Let's see here- some Ukrainian lady serving as a nurse for wounded soldiers or some American bitch making Tiktok videos. Tough choice.
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:45 PM Author: exhilarant beta space ape Exactly. Shitlibs like you hate Americans and would rather funnel $ to elites and defense contractors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575531) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:50 PM Author: Smoky Tanning Salon Republicans just tacked another 50 billion onto Biden's proposed defense budget. But sure, it's the "libs" who want to help defense contractors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575557) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:59 PM Author: exhilarant beta space ape I'm not talking about politicians they're all scum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575601) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:24 AM Author: nofapping sooty university haunted graveyard Aren’t you also against virtually all social welfare programs? It’s weird how GOP will use this line when they have no interest in spending the money on people at home either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45578111) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:33 PM Author: Wine Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575467) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:51 PM Author: Azure yapping center famous landscape painting oh we're gunna keep giving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575562) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 8:16 PM Author: ocher wild office juggernaut So you are jewish after all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45576917) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:35 PM Author: cobalt ticket booth new version weird. Trump Did Nothing Wrong tp told me Ukraine not having power wasn't a big deal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575477) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Wine Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575533) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:53 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria I said it wouldn’t make Ukrainians surrender, and that’s 100% correct
you Russiacucks can keep dreaming that these attacks will help Russia win if it makes you feel better |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:55 PM Author: Azure yapping center famous landscape painting If you can't win on the battlefield, win against the civilians, if you can't win against the civilians, resort to terror. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575580) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Chest-beating motley school cafeteria and when that fails (which it will), shoot the Tsar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575590) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 3:52 PM Author: Azure yapping center famous landscape painting American Money, Ukrainian Solutions (TM) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45575567) |
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Date: December 5th, 2022 6:52 PM Author: Sadistic sound barrier genital piercing Interestingly todays hundreds of cruise missile strikes against the ukro grid was both 100% intercepted by ukraine and caused blackouts across half the country which can only be solved by an emergency 5 billion $ grant from the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246029&forum_id=2#45590163) |