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SBF trial seems like a disaster for him, why didn't he plead guilty?

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walnut point
  10/10/23
I heard his deal was for 25 years. Might as well take a chan...
Brilliant wonderful stage milk
  10/10/23
what are the guidelines if hes convicted across the board?
supple range water buffalo
  10/10/23
Ya 1 for a mistrial then you get to do it all over again
flushed swashbuckling home roommate
  10/10/23
They usually offer a better deal after a mistrial. Not alway...
Brilliant wonderful stage milk
  10/10/23
Even worse: He gets convicted on some, but then mistrial...
Mauve center hominid
  10/10/23
fair point / at his age no difference btw 25 and life
Frum background story
  10/11/23
First time seeing jews win impossible cases miraculously in ...
sienna kitchen police squad
  10/10/23
Yeah, could be the fix is in somehow. We'll see what unfo...
walnut point
  10/10/23
his 2 closest biz partners directly called him a fraud in co...
Cerebral Rough-skinned Native Dopamine
  10/10/23
I know, and it seems he and his lawyers should have foreseen...
walnut point
  10/10/23
counterpoint: they get leniency, and why didn't they raise a...
Carnelian razzle friendly grandma
  10/10/23
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massive haunted graveyard
  03/28/24
How long will the trial take
Concupiscible depressive
  10/10/23
A few weeks I think.
walnut point
  10/10/23
He should've hired a legit shiesty trial specialist rather t...
Ruby Bisexual Patrolman
  10/10/23
Would you have repped him
unholy tanning salon indirect expression
  10/10/23
Of course. I'd say that anyone with a brain knew that crypt...
Ruby Bisexual Patrolman
  10/11/23
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Drunken puce son of senegal stag film
  10/10/23
And judge hates the nerds and has already harangued them in ...
Tantric heady site wrinkle
  10/10/23
Q: Please turn to Exh. 1483, which has alpha-numeric AG27426...
awkward thriller property
  10/11/23
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Drunken puce son of senegal stag film
  10/11/23
By Matthew Goldstein and David Yaffe-Bellany Reporting from...
awkward thriller property
  10/11/23
Everyone in this entire article including the authors is Jew...
walnut point
  10/11/23
Stanford law professors (ie his parents who presumably picke...
Turquoise State Striped Hyena
  10/11/23
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Lilac telephone
  10/11/23
Deal might have been shitty Or more likely he thought he...
drab beady-eyed faggotry
  10/10/23
Probably getting delusional advice from his retard parents
Drunken puce son of senegal stag film
  10/10/23
They really are preening boomer shitheads https://i.daily...
Big twinkling location idiot
  10/11/23
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walnut point
  10/11/23
They are persona non grata at all Stanford cocktail parties ...
Obsidian Lettuce
  10/11/23
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Lilac telephone
  10/11/23
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Drunken puce son of senegal stag film
  10/11/23
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Well-lubricated glittery fanboi
  10/11/23
AND they are Jewish
adventurous know-it-all brethren
  10/11/23
he's so fucked
Pearl Motley Stain
  10/11/23
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erotic harsh public bath becky
  10/11/23
Will Caroline see jail time?
Spectacular canary lodge mad cow disease
  10/11/23
PHENOTYPE SAYS
erotic harsh public bath becky
  10/11/23
She should see a plastic surgeon, that's for sure.
exciting rose alpha circlehead
  10/11/23
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Stimulating thirsty church building
  10/11/23
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Turquoise State Striped Hyena
  10/11/23
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histrionic address
  10/11/23
she's so ugly, its bizarre.
Avocado Gaped Locale
  10/11/23
She's only 29. Looks 49.
walnut point
  10/11/23
RATE this court drawing of her: https://i.dailymail.co.uk...
Avocado Gaped Locale
  10/11/23
wtf is that horrid neon art behind the judge? in a courtroom...
Lilac telephone
  10/11/23
That's a window. Maybe read up on Impressionism
Disgusting Iridescent Space
  10/11/23
ljl women will turn on you instantly, even if it doesn't dir...
Henna odious brunch
  10/11/23
cr see FizzKidds' wholly uncalled for aggression on me above...
Lilac telephone
  10/11/23
I'm going to testify You don't scare me anymore
Disgusting Iridescent Space
  10/11/23
I own numerous books on art (hardcover)
Lilac telephone
  10/11/23
And you will have to sell them all to render the damages I'm...
Disgusting Iridescent Space
  10/11/23
He has pretty consistently made decisions like someone who s...
Peach chapel pervert
  10/11/23


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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:21 PM
Author: walnut point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917299)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:22 PM
Author: Brilliant wonderful stage milk

I heard his deal was for 25 years. Might as well take a chance on the jury. Only takes 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917303)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:33 PM
Author: supple range water buffalo

what are the guidelines if hes convicted across the board?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917379)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:40 PM
Author: flushed swashbuckling home roommate

Ya 1 for a mistrial then you get to do it all over again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917422)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:44 PM
Author: Brilliant wonderful stage milk

They usually offer a better deal after a mistrial. Not always though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917457)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:05 PM
Author: Mauve center hominid

Even worse:

He gets convicted on some, but then mistrial on one count.

Now you do it all over again, but you're still going to prison on the other counts!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917547)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 7:53 PM
Author: Frum background story

fair point / at his age no difference btw 25 and life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46921915)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:22 PM
Author: sienna kitchen police squad

First time seeing jews win impossible cases miraculously in court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917305)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:29 PM
Author: walnut point

Yeah, could be the fix is in somehow.

We'll see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917337)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:33 PM
Author: Cerebral Rough-skinned Native Dopamine

his 2 closest biz partners directly called him a fraud in court

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917378)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:34 PM
Author: walnut point

I know, and it seems he and his lawyers should have foreseen this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917382)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:40 PM
Author: Carnelian razzle friendly grandma

counterpoint: they get leniency, and why didn't they raise a voice when this was all going on if they are so noble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917753)



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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:29 PM
Author: massive haunted graveyard

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#47534804)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible depressive

How long will the trial take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917372)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:33 PM
Author: walnut point

A few weeks I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917377)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 10:34 PM
Author: Ruby Bisexual Patrolman

He should've hired a legit shiesty trial specialist rather than a couple of nerds who don't know how to trick jurors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917387)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:17 PM
Author: unholy tanning salon indirect expression

Would you have repped him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917611)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:55 PM
Author: Ruby Bisexual Patrolman

Of course. I'd say that anyone with a brain knew that crypto was a scam from the jump, and they can't now turn around a blame a good kid who was trying to bring stability to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46920028)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:24 PM
Author: Drunken puce son of senegal stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917660)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:57 PM
Author: Tantric heady site wrinkle

And judge hates the nerds and has already harangued them in front of jury to stop being such boring fags

HAHAURFUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917811)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:41 AM
Author: awkward thriller property

Q: Please turn to Exh. 1483, which has alpha-numeric AG27426-28, and starting from the last page which is where the email chain starts -- and let's just wait until we get that up on the screen -- now can you please read the second full paragraph on that page to see if he was referencing the prior discussion that you just testified about?

A: Yes.

Q: Ok, now let's look at the reply email ...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918855)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:41 AM
Author: Drunken puce son of senegal stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918858)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:09 AM
Author: awkward thriller property

By Matthew Goldstein and David Yaffe-Bellany

Reporting from the Daniel Patrick Moynihan U.S. Courthouse in Manhattan.

Oct. 10, 2023

Three days into Sam Bankman-Fried’s criminal trial in Federal District Court in Manhattan, Judge Lewis A. Kaplan’s warnings to the defense had become unmistakable.

Judge Kaplan, who is presiding over the high-profile white-collar fraud case, repeatedly told Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers to stop repeating themselves. Over and over, he directed them to rephrase their questions. And with his frequent interruptions of their cross-examinations, Judge Kaplan kept Mr. Bankman-Fried’s legal team off balance, putting it on the defensive.

“I just want to express my growing concern about the extent of the entirely unnecessary repetition, and I’ve given you a lot of latitude,” Judge Kaplan told one of Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers, Christian Everdell, during a brief break on Thursday when the jury was not in the courtroom. “You’re wearing out the welcome on the repetition.”

Judge Kaplan is a veteran jurist with a history of presiding over prominent trials like that of Mr. Bankman-Fried, 31, who is charged with orchestrating a scheme to misappropriate as much as $10 billion that customers deposited with his crypto exchange, FTX. While he is known for his no-nonsense attitude in the courtroom, legal experts say Judge Kaplan is keeping the defense on an unusually short leash.

Any trial has natural ebbs and flows, and the tenor of the initial stages could change over the six weeks that Judge Kaplan has allotted. But after four days of testimony, the early signs have been ominous for Mr. Bankman-Fried.

“When the jurors see the judge interrupting one of the lawyers and saying, ‘That’s an improper question’ or ‘We’ve covered this already, you’re wasting our time,’ that creates a very big problem for the defendant,” said Paul Tuchmann, a former federal prosecutor. “The judge is a figure of immense authority for them.”

Mr. Bankman-Fried’s trial resumed on Tuesday, with two crucial witnesses. Defense lawyers continued cross-examining Gary Wang, one of FTX’s top executives, who testified last week that Mr. Bankman-Fried had instructed him to insert a secret backdoor into the company’s code that enabled the theft of customer funds. There were fewer interruptions, with Mr. Everdell pointing out some inconsistencies in Mr. Wang’s initial statements to F.B.I. agents and his testimony at trial last week.

Prosecutors then called Caroline Ellison, Mr. Bankman-Fried’s former girlfriend, who ran a crypto trading firm that the government says tapped into FTX customer deposits.

Mr. Wang and Ms. Ellison have pleaded guilty and are cooperating with the authorities. Mr. Bankman-Fried has pleaded not guilty to seven counts of wire fraud and conspiracy.

What charges does he face? Since Bankman-Fried’s extradition, several charges have been added to and later dropped from his indictment. Prosecutors have also removed a charge that he violated campaign finance rules. He is currently standing trial on seven charge, including accusations that he defrauded customers and lenders of FTX.

Judge Kaplan’s tight rein on the defense has potentially far-reaching implications. In criminal cases, defendants typically win or lose based on their lawyers’ ability to undermine prosecution witnesses on cross-examination. The lawyers aim to poke holes in the testimony, establishing enough reasonable doubt for a jury to acquit.

Judges often give defense lawyers wide latitude, overlooking issues with the way a lawyer asks questions or permitting a lawyer to delve into areas that a prosecution witness didn’t directly raise in initial testimony.

But so far in Mr. Bankman-Fried’s trial, Judge Kaplan has repeatedly warned defense lawyers to stop asking about facts that a witness discussed under questioning by the prosecutors. He has also upheld objections from the prosecution over the way the defense lawyers have phrased their questions.

The admonitions have disrupted the questioning, making it difficult for Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers to get their points across. Judge Kaplan has also appeared to grow irritated.

“Don’t do that again, Mr. Everdell,” he snapped on Friday after prosecutors objected to a question that the lawyer asked Mr. Wang.

Judge Kaplan has said his warnings are intended to keep the trial moving.

“Experienced trial judges are often quite sensitive to repetition that can threaten juror concentration,” said Daniel Richman, a law professor at Columbia University and a former federal prosecutor.

Rachel Maimin, a former prosecutor in Manhattan who has appeared before Judge Kaplan, said he “keeps control of his courtroom in a way that makes life in the end much more efficient for jurors, lawyers and everybody involved.”

The disruptions have compounded the challenges that Mr. Bankman-Fried’s defense lawyers already faced. Before the trial, Judge Kaplan issued several rulings that limited the defense’s ability to raise certain issues at the trial. In one of them, he voiced concerns about arguments that FTX relied on advice from outside lawyers to make many of the business decisions related to the charges against him.

Judge Kaplan has also ruled that Mr. Bankman-Fried can’t argue that the venture investors who sank $2 billion into FTX should have done better due diligence. That had an effect in court on Thursday when Judge Kaplan short-circuited the defense’s questioning of Matt Huang, a founder of the venture firm Paradigm Capital, one of FTX’s largest backers.

In a private conference that the jury could not hear, Judge Kaplan warned Mr. Bankman-Fried’s lawyers that their questions to Mr. Huang came close to violating the ruling that they could not suggest investors lost money because of “gullibility and negligence,” according to a trial transcript.

Judge Kaplan also hinted that another potentially worrisome ruling could await the defense. On Friday, he told the lawyers to research the “buried facts doctrine,” which states that it’s insufficient to phrase disclosures about the risks of an investment in opaque language or to bury them in a lengthy document filled with legalese.

Judge Kaplan offered no further explanation, but judges have instructed juries that they can disregard corporate disclosures buried in long documents. That could potentially prevent Mr. Bankman-Fried from claiming that FTX’s customers and investors should have been aware of risks associated with keeping money with the exchange.

Several lawyers said it was a bit of mystery why Judge Kaplan would raise the issue so early. Discussions about jury instructions tend to occur in the final stages of a trial.

“It sounds like he’s coaching the prosecution on an argument to make,” said Mr. Tuchmann, the former prosecutor. “The fact that he’s mentioning it is an ominous thing for the defense.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919015)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:16 AM
Author: walnut point

Everyone in this entire article including the authors is Jewish except for Wang, Huang, and SBF's goy lawyer named Christian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919053)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:27 AM
Author: Turquoise State Striped Hyena

Stanford law professors (ie his parents who presumably picked his counsel) don’t actually know how to win a case. Shocking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917962)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: Lilac telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918788)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:28 PM
Author: drab beady-eyed faggotry

Deal might have been shitty

Or more likely he thought he could outsmart his way out of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917678)



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Date: October 10th, 2023 11:37 PM
Author: Drunken puce son of senegal stag film

Probably getting delusional advice from his retard parents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917744)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:59 AM
Author: Big twinkling location idiot

They really are preening boomer shitheads

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/11/00/76404201-12615987-Sam_Bankman_Fried_s_parents_Joseph_Bankman_and_Barbara_Fried_put-a-40_1696981345683.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918005)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:07 AM
Author: walnut point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918683)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:18 AM
Author: Obsidian Lettuce

They are persona non grata at all Stanford cocktail parties now which is basically 10x worse than the holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918748)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: Lilac telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918792)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:19 AM
Author: Drunken puce son of senegal stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918753)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:32 AM
Author: Well-lubricated glittery fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918814)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:49 AM
Author: adventurous know-it-all brethren

AND they are Jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919227)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 12:51 AM
Author: Pearl Motley Stain

he's so fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917909)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 12:54 AM
Author: erotic harsh public bath becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917916)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:29 AM
Author: Spectacular canary lodge mad cow disease

Will Caroline see jail time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917966)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:31 AM
Author: erotic harsh public bath becky

PHENOTYPE SAYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917970)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 1:55 AM
Author: exciting rose alpha circlehead

She should see a plastic surgeon, that's for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46917999)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:18 AM
Author: Stimulating thirsty church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918752)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 7:33 PM
Author: Turquoise State Striped Hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46921835)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 8:02 PM
Author: histrionic address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46921946)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:19 AM
Author: Avocado Gaped Locale

she's so ugly, its bizarre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918756)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:20 AM
Author: walnut point

She's only 29. Looks 49.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918758)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: Avocado Gaped Locale

RATE this court drawing of her:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/10/19/76393395-12615987-image-a-32_1696962760664.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918789)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: Lilac telephone

wtf is that horrid neon art behind the judge? in a courtroom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46918796)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:14 AM
Author: Disgusting Iridescent Space

That's a window. Maybe read up on Impressionism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919048)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:14 AM
Author: Henna odious brunch

ljl women will turn on you instantly, even if it doesn't directly benefit them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919044)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:31 AM
Author: Lilac telephone

cr see FizzKidds' wholly uncalled for aggression on me above. sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919147)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:36 AM
Author: Disgusting Iridescent Space

I'm going to testify

You don't scare me anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919177)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:37 AM
Author: Lilac telephone

I own numerous books on art (hardcover)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919182)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 10:45 AM
Author: Disgusting Iridescent Space

And you will have to sell them all to render the damages I'm seeking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919212)



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Date: October 11th, 2023 11:50 AM
Author: Peach chapel pervert

He has pretty consistently made decisions like someone who skimmed the Intro to Micro readings so it would have been shocking if he had taken a plea deal, or not testified. The jury also doesn't know anything about crypto so maybe he can convince them that he's just naive and unlucky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5424882&forum_id=2#46919568)