Is climate change even a little bit real?
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Date: March 17th, 2024 1:28 AM Author: Transparent Cerebral Cuckoldry Parlour
Ray Kurzweil interview was terrible. Rogan tried to gently and tactfully call him out on some of the bullshit claims but he gave up pretty quick.
Yes, the earth does go through periodic climate shifts. The current era modern humans have lived through has been incredibly stable. Far more impactful have been the cooling periods. Even minor extended dips in temperature have been devastating to humanity. And I'm not talking full on ice ages. Cooling can be matched to the fall of empires. Generally warmer periods have been our most prosperous.
Climate change bullshit also shifts the focus from actual environmental problems. I wish we'd worry a thousand times less about carbon and use those efforts to confront toxic pollutants in our food supply and how we overall fuck up natural environments. I could get behind that.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 2:02 AM Author: Silver charismatic foreskin
Where the fuck are you people from? It doesn’t snow in NYC anymore, lakes don’t freeze in the Midwest, it doesn’t snow in winter between Nevada and Iowa, and the air is smoky as fuck throughout the West from late-July to September.
Do you all live in the SouTTTh where you can’t really perceive a difference in summer temperature given the 90% humidity?
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:33 AM Author: Pale internal respiration area
there are innumerable things like this. global glacier coverage. snowpack amount and melting times. length of ski seasons. these aren't things you can fake.
farmers often use mountain snowpack as a visual indicator. these tend to be conservative people and many have recorded the dates over time. the snow is melting earlier and earlier. the trend is clear and has been occurring for like 100 years. this is undeniable unless there is some sort of massive conspiracy. and, if that was possible, the group orchestrating it would be so powerful they wouldn't need to fool people.
like, this is just not something that can be intelligently denied. we're talking about weather and climate. something ordinary people have had the ability to observe and record for some time.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:24 AM Author: Pale internal respiration area
you seem tethered to the debate being about the cause and effect and the reliability of predictions.
people can measure the climate. it's changing. people have recorded when snowpack has melted for a long ass time across the globe. you can't deny it's trending earlier and earlier.
you can't deny climate change is occurring and it's been significant. if you want to argue that it's because of something other than humans go for it, but it's not something i can argue about because i don't know. im saying the change is occurring and cannot be denied. so idk what value "there was snow storm today!" has. what matters is the global trend.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 2:38 AM Author: Crystalline Tripping Stead Idiot
Here's an interesting fact: for any given place on earth you can think of, if you Google the predicted effects of climate change on that place, you'll find scientists claiming that it's expected to be affected MORE by climate change than the global average. There is no place where scientists are saying "this place is only going to experience average levels of impact," and certainly no place is predicted to be affected LESS than the global average. Look at EPAH claiming ITT that his ancestral homeland is currently experiencing extreme effects of climate change.
You have to be worried about the sanity of the average shitlib who thinks this doesn't require it's own meta-analysis, since it seems to suggest that whatever "average effects" these scientists imagine are probably gross underestimates.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 2:54 AM Author: razzmatazz ocher roommate
even it were real there’s nothing we can do to mitigate or stop it because China and others are far outpacing us in pumping carbon into the air
all the economic damage we are doing to ourselves is part to the lib grift to push energy into their hands. Trump knows this and that’s why the old drill baby drill will be one of his first acts as president
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Date: March 17th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: Pale internal respiration area
it's real and an observable fact. whether it's from human action or not is debatable, but it almost certainly is imo. regardless, there is no hope of turning back. gc won't stop on it's own. we don't have the will to tackle the homeless problem, there's no chance we have the will to just do uncle ted.
don't think about it.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: insane dilemma
temps fell from 1930 to 1979. then rose slightly 1980-2000. then plateaued. we may be having a 2-3 upturn due to the massive amounts of water vapor the Tongan volcano blew up into the atmosphere.
overall we are well within normal fluctuations and the predictions of catastrophe are "science" like Fauci's crazy claims were "science."
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Date: March 17th, 2024 1:08 PM Author: Supple Location Twinkling Uncleanness
i think it's real.
top things we can do as Americans to mitigate are 1) eliminate pointless commuting via WFH; 2) completely close the boarder; 3) via tariffs or whatever stop importing so much crap from China; 4) stop selling so much fucking bottled water, particularly in shops that ban plastic bags and straws; 5) massive social pressure to shame pointless air travel; 6) kill all jews
libs don't want to do any of these things and instead want everyone to eat bugs and drive EVs that have 1/3 the lifespan and weigh 2x as much as a normal car
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Date: March 17th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone vengeful university
It's real in the sense that the earth's climate obviously does cycle from hotter to colder to hotter again over the whole history of the earth (Ice ages, etc).
But beyond that, no.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 2:48 PM Author: Bossy love of her life
Yes, my dear OP Bro, its happening. IF you need proof, check out a skycam map of Antarctic now vs 40 years ago.
ps: i am STEM
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Date: March 17th, 2024 4:15 PM Author: fighting arousing toaster
Please explain the thought process of a climate change denier. Do you just assume that because "libs" advocate action on climate change, it must be wrong? Are you too stupid to find data and use your fucking brain? For example, a couple minutes of googling revealed this data set:
https://berkeleyearth.org/data/
They have some widgets to visualize it, but if you don't trust them, you can download the data yourself and put it in Excel. Why don't you try this and tell me what pattern you see? And then find a couple other sites that have temperature data over time and try the same thing. You'll notice a similar pattern.
So what is more likely: 1) Every single organization in the world is part of a massive conspiracy to falsify their data so that it looks like the world is getting hotter when it is not. 2) The world is getting warmer.
I just find it amazing that anyone is actually dumb enough to believe climate denier nonsense. Do you just mindlessly accept what you hear on Fox News and have no critical reasoning abilities?
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Date: March 17th, 2024 10:44 PM Author: fighting arousing toaster
So you just disregard any data that contradicts your preconceived beliefs? Is there any data that would convince you that the world is, in fact, getting warmer? Or will you automatically dismiss any data as being created by "left wing lunatics"? Because I can point you to about 20 other data sets collected by different researchers that will show the same pattern.
And once again, is every single university/climate research center in the world part of a vast global warming conspiracy? Or is it possible that the world is, in fact, getting warmer?
Indeed, can you point me to a single data set anywhere that indicates that global warming is not occurring? Very weird that every data set on global temperatures in the world shows the world getting warmer. I guess every single weather station on the planet is part of this conspiracy.
And if no data will convince you, I would say that I am not the one who is basing my beliefs on "religion" rather than data.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:43 AM Author: fighting arousing toaster
Umm, if the entire Antarctic ice sheet were to collapse, the sea level rise would be on the order of hundreds of feet. Forget about NYC; that would put most of the British isles underwater. Granted, it's unclear that this would happen even if we did nothing to reduce emissions, and even then it is centuries away. But the worst-case scenario is really really bad. Under a more realistic scenario in our lifetimes, we are probably looking at around a foot of sea level rise in the next 20-30 years. Levies could prevent the worst of the damage, but flooding would still be more frequent and more severe. And that's just one of the harms of global warming. By any reasonable measure, the cost of reducing emissions will be fairly trivial compared to the cost of adapting to a warmer world.
And I don't know if it's even worth responding if you believe idiotic conspiracy theories. But right now the problem with renewables isn't producing enough energy to power everything. Cover half the Mojave Desert with solar panels and you can power the entire U.S. several times over. One issue is the simple fact that the sun doesn't shine at night and sometimes the wind doesn't blow. You can't easily turn renewables on or off to meet demand like you can with fossil fuels. But hopefully better battery technology will solve that issue.
The other problem is that even though renewables are cost competitive (if not cheaper) than fossil fuels over a 20-30 year life cycle, they have a huge up front cost despite a much lower marginal cost. Utility executives don't care about saving money in 30 years, when they will most likely no longer be working there. They just want to beat estimates on next quarter's report. So there is an incentive to burn more fossil fuels even if they are not the most cost effective solution.
And while I think EV mandates are dumb for various reasons, if anything, they will help the grid transition to renewables. As I said, one of the big problems with solar right now is that you produce far more energy than you need during the day but nothing at night. If everyone has an EV, you can simply charge up the EV battery during the day when there is an excess of cheap solar power and then run off the EV battery once the sun goes down. The F-150 Lightning already has this capability. My guess is that it will be a standard feature on EV's within a few years.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 1:52 PM Author: Supple Location Twinkling Uncleanness
lol you cumfarting kike. beachfront insurance is higher because they get hit regularly by hurricanes and general storm damage, not because of the existential threat of gradual rising sea levels.
you still haven't answered the question of why the earth getting warmer is even a bad thing other than histrionics about NYC and London being completely underwater in a few hundred years (timeline moved back from 2005 d-day the experts quoted back in the 1990s). even if your definitely accurate and not hysterical jewish predictions were true, you'd still have to convince much of the world why NYC and London being flooded out of existence would even be a bad thing.
much of the land mass on this planet is useless because it is too cold. if anything it sounds like warmer weather would be a good thing.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 2:06 PM Author: Henna national boiling water
It's -6 degrees in Siberia today. Gun to the head is it colder or warmer than usual?
The only thing that could convince me of global warming is if the Earth actually got warmer. It hasn't. 100% of climate models predicting disaster since 1994 have been disproven. They also universally have overcalculated the amount of heat that would be trapped in the atmosphere if the Earth got warmer. You would think that the climate models would adjust to reality but they have not. CO2 is a very weak gas at trapping heat. It has almost no effect. The amount humans have contributed to the Earth heating up is close to zero.
I have already explained why measurements show a minute change in average temperatures. Everyone knows that the expansion of cities has made it so more heat is trapped in buildings and roads during the day and release it at night when the sun goes down. This phenomenon is well studied. It easily accounts for 2-3 degrees F at night which can approach 1 C change over 100 years which is greater than the total amount climate alarmists even claim we have gotten hotter. It's such a small amount of change. That's why alarmists talk about the rate of change being the canary in the coal mine, because the total change is so minimal. And then you go okay if this rate is so exponential we would have seen a major spike by now. But we haven't. We haven't seen that spike. It's never coming. There are dozens and dozens of well respected climate scientists from everywhere from UAH to MIT who have said there is no impending climate crisis, humans have no effect, CO2 doesn't do shit, and there's no need to worry. It's only the media and left wing institutions that promote the idea that climate scientists universally believe in climate disaster. It's not even true. And none of the alarmists can create a model that accurately predicts the trajectory of the Earth heating up. They have been perpetually wrong since 1994 when data from satellites and weather balloons has disproven their entire case.
As to the Obama 4D chess, they're just living in the moment and will get out before the Vineyard is hundreds of feet under water is the dumbest thing I have heard in a very long time ljl.
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Date: March 19th, 2024 1:17 AM Author: Henna national boiling water
John Christy, UAH, co-creator of climate satellite data, head climate scientist for the state of Alabama, testified before Congress two dozen times. Climate denier.
Richard Lindzen, climate professor at MIT and Harvard, retired, wrote over 200 papers, climate denier. Critics say he's a "contrarian," and his views are "unprofessional".
William Happer, physicist and climate denier. Head of the Office of Science under George H. W. Bush, also worked in the Trump administration. Climate denier. Head of an organization that promotes the growth of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Steven Koonin, former Chief Scientist at BP, also worked for the Department of Energy, Office of Science, in the Obama administration. Climate denier.
I've read all their work and find their arguments against climate alarmism compelling. Am I 100% sure they're right? No. Wikipedia says that 99% of climate scientists agree on the IPCC consensus on climate change. But this seems to not be the case. Christy estimates in real terms only about 55% of climate scientists ascribe to the climate alarmism model, whereas 45% are what climate alarmists call climate denialism.
There are two sides to this argument, even if you fervently believe in one. I don't fervently believe in climate change denialism, I just have a gut instinct that their arguments are better than the climate alarmists. For instance, climate alarmists cannot produce a predictive model. They continuously produce erroneous models. If you read the scientists I listed, they have cogent arguments that explain why climate alarmism is not real, that the changes in the Earth's temperature are normal and not man-made. I can't go through each and every one of them line by line with you, but they can. And I buy their arguments. At least I think they're better than climate alarmist arguments. And climate deniers don't have a wikipedia page that says 99% of scientists agree with our views. Not only that but according to the National Center for Science Education in Oakland, it's not enough to believe in the scientific consensus according to the IPCC, you also have to actively take up the cause of climate alarmism or else you're a bad person. It's very cult-like and disturbing. I believe these are all legitimate criticisms of the movement.
Meanwhile you can watch videos by any of the scientists I listed and find they have a very compelling case why climate alarmism is not correct, including why having only falsified predictive models is not good for their argument!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unsettled-review-theconsensus-on-climate-11619383653
https://steven-koonin.medium.com/response-to-climate-feedbacks-fact-check-of-mark-mills-wall-street-16b9742fe35a
There is so much of this that it would take you ages to parse through but they are all credible refutations of the climate alarmist narrative. Enjoy.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:02 PM Author: insane dilemma
did we not just live thru a period when scientists who spoke the truth got crushed? imagine you are getting started on your Ph.D and you say to your advisor that you want to take a critical look at the data revisions that have made warming seem worse. what happens to you?
and if you doubt that the establishment science has been revising the data, take a look at these two graphs. as recently as 1999 the great hero of the climate change crowd, James Hansen, was still using the data showing that the Dust Bowl era, 1930s, was the warmest in the US history and that things cooled down until 1979. (remember all the science and news talk about the coming ice age?)
the problem is that the data are deeply inconsistent with the CO2 theory. so they re-wrote the data using modeled data. that's how they created the second graph.
http://appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/Hansen_US.htm
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Date: March 17th, 2024 6:54 PM Author: Henna national boiling water
Dude how can you fall for this nonsense? You're one of those people who actually believe shit like this: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_temperature_timeline_2x.png
It's just sad man none of it is true. It's not even partially true. Shitlibs invented metrics to measure this so called rapid rate of change. It's all horseshit. They just took average daily numbers from cities that used to be rural and said wow the mean daily temp keeps going up. But we don't see any record highs. We don't see any unusual weather patterns. The data itself is fabricated. They just measured in such ways to achieve the result they wanted. Don't buy into these lies. There was recently a hot spell in Texas in February and they were like this is a record high. But the actual record was set in the 90s and it was much hotter. You see, it's all bullshit.
There are no record highs and daily averages can easily be manipulated by measuring hotter nights in the cities where the heat is trapped. All of this rate of change data bullshit is based on numbers taken in cities at night where it's like 89 instead of 87 like it was 50 years ago. It's all bullshit. There are no record how highs brother stop believing this crap.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:11 PM Author: Pale internal respiration area
i don't know why people deny it so vehemently. climate change is an undeniable fact. scientists across the political spectrum agree.
my big issue with the whole debate is how it's weaponized too. if you accept that it's real and caused by humans, the only solution would be some global commitment from all nations to reduce our impact. this would probably need to be enforced militarily, because there a tragedy of the commons problem in that separate nations have a huge incentive to disregard any big pledge to outcompete others. this solution is unthinkable.
instead, shitlibs use it to pass clean energy initiatives which solely are about giving friendly corporate interests handouts and that doesn't meaningfully address the issue. shitlibs are completely in bed with GC. even if they had absolute power they wouldn't drastically cut down the human impact because it would be devastating to gc.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:28 PM Author: Pale internal respiration area
i have conservative friends in the field and they are like esoteric sambo in that they all unequivocally agree. im not going to supplant my interpretation of the data with theirs because im not in the field. sure you can find some outliers that disagree, but you have to at least concede that 99.99% of the experts agree.
we've been able to accurately measure the earths temperature for some time now. it's just not a rational argument to say it's not happening. you're denying observable fact.
you're right that shitlibs exaggerate and that hurts their argument. but at the end of that day, what does it matter? no one is proposing any solution. call libs out for how they use to issue to enrich politically friendly entities and that they policies don't meaningfully address the issue. but just denying that it's occurring at all will just make people not take you seriously. you might as well be talking about the tide not being real.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:30 PM Author: Henna national boiling water
I disagree. I just don't think the Earth is getting hotter.
In a 2007 editorial in The Wall Street Journal, he wrote: "I'm sure the majority (but not all) of my IPCC colleagues cringe when I say this, but I see neither the developing catastrophe nor the smoking gun proving that human activity is to blame for most of the warming we see."[11]
We have found that climate models and popular surface temperature data sets overstate the changes in the real atmosphere and that actual changes are not alarming."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Christy
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:43 PM Author: Pale internal respiration area
you can't disagree because it's an observable fact. unless you think that there is a global conspiracy involving millions of people. like, what, big thermometer intentionally designing their shit to record different temperatures? is there some santa claus that's sneaking around adding mercury into analog thermometers? there are huge enthusiast meteorology communities that autistically monitor and compile this data -- they're all in cahoots too?
this is flat earth level denial of observable reality. just like you can send a weather balloon up with a camera to see the curvature of the earth, you can record your local temperature and see if it aligns with the reported numbers over time. plenty of dorks do independent weather stations. we're talking about temperature here. it's one of the easiest things for people to measure on their own.
if you want to contest whether and to what degree humans are causing it, fine. but i don't think that's something you can intelligently due unless you autodidact into independently knowing the science. you're just reading other people's conclusions and choosing the ones that align with what you'd prefer.
and again, who cares? shitlibs don't even want to shut down GC. and they certainly don't have the will to do it even if they sincerely wanted to. if it is caused by human action, there is no chance we are going to address it on a global scale. shitlibs just give tax credits on clean energy shit and declare victory -- even though those policies are just about enriching their friends and doesn't meaningfully reduce global CO2 emissions.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:03 AM Author: Henna national boiling water
The observable numbers have gone up but I have already provided ITT numerous alternative theories as to why this is. First of all we're comparing numbers dating back to the 19th century. A lot of the weather stations back then were not accurate. It was like one guy and his home gear in the middle of the Australian outback.
The one thing we know for sure that has changed is that we have build countless cities in formerly rural areas (every area was ultimately rural far back enough). If you go from measuring in a rural area to a city you it is bound to alter your measurements by virtue of buildings heating up and retaining heat during the day. This alone is enough to swing the nightly recorded temperature, thus increasing the "average" heat of the Earth. It's all based on where, when, and how you record.
The truth is that climate scientists who predict a cataclysm have been wrong 100% of the time, they lie in their models. The amount the Earth has heated up relative to the last century is "1/1000th" what most normies think it is. There is no large scale anthropogenic impact on the temperature of the Earth. This has been fully debunked. "The Earth is getting hotter" is a facile argument. Hotter compared to what? Billions of years ago it was all molten lava and it was way hotter than it is now. All of these arguments are inaccurate prima facie. There is no climate crisis, the Earth is not measurably getting warmer other than at night cities are recording a higher temperature due to heat trapped in buildings and on the road that release it when the sun goes down. It's 1/1000th of what you think it is, no climate model that predicts disaster is accurate, the Earth ejects twice as much heat into outer space as climate agitators claim it does. All of what I'm saying is backed up by actual climate data from satellites. Real research university climate scientists agree with what I'm saying. Max IQ to think the Earth is "getting warmer" is about 95. There is no evidence of this. It's actually not warmer. There are no record heat waves, no unexpected additional storms, hurricanes, tsunamis, there are no polar ice caps melting. It's all 100% false.
The only thing we know for certain is that our measurements as measured by humans living in major metros after shifting from mostly agrarian since the 1890s have gotten a really tiny amount warmer over that time. No evidence that we're nuking the planet like a microwave and it's all about to pop. No evidence that our kids in a hundred years will go through any sort of "transition" (except the one EPAH wants them to go through) period of chaos and destruction. It's all 100% false. None of it is real. Not even a little bit. The climate alarmism is as accurate as saying that your Rolex spend up by 3 seconds and therefore time itself is on the precipice of accelerating. It's that level of erroneous to even make the statement, "the Earth is getting warmer." Because, factually, it isn't.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:19 AM Author: Pale internal respiration area
you're downplaying how significantly it has raised. this is just an observable fact that cannot be denied.
neither you or i are qualified to independently have an opinion on the cause. maybe it is just ordinary fluctuation. but ive known plenty of people with no political incentive to lie and they are all as unequivocal as sambo.
i agree that the alarmism about it seems to be exaggerated. i said elsewhere itt that ive been hearing about guaranteed imminent environmental disaster my entire life. since that time our production of CO2 and other pollutants has accelerated.
but again, why do you even care? either it's fake or it's real and there is no hope we're going to address it in a meaningful way. i guess we'll see what happens but we have 0 control over it. why fret about something you have 0 ability to control? im annoyed that shitlibs use the issue to pass policies that enrich themselves, but that's not even in the top 10 of duplicitous shitlibs do to get to policy outcomes.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:48 AM Author: Pale internal respiration area
you're not qualified to assess it and which people are being honest. but as i said, you can't deny that it's happening. if you want to chalk it up to ordinary temperature fluction that's fine. but you have no ability to make that conclusion yourself and are just picking the conclusions that align with your prococeived ideas. that's not a rational and intellectually serious way to weigh competing information.
i have no strong opinions on humans role in this because i don't have the knowledge to have an informed opinion. i am more persuaded by the arguments for humans having a big impact because i have known people in the field i trust that aren't aligned with libs and the overwhelming consensus is that it's close to certainty.
but so what? you keep evading the question ive asked -- why do you care so much? if you cared about the truth you would be honest with yourself and realize that you *don't know* and that your independent research isn't that valuable. if it was about truth you wouldn't be so dismissive of conclusions that conflict with yours considering you don't have the ability to independently assess them. you'd at least be open to the possibility that they overwhelming consensus is correct. maybe it'll turn out to be wrong, but if you were treating the issue with intellectual honesty you'd at least be open to the idea that it's possible that the scientific consensus is correct. what i mean by "why do you care so much" i mean why is it so important for you to be "right" here? if truth is your goal you'd be more open to the possibility of being wrong, especially in a subject you have no independent expertise and ability to assess it on your own.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 12:55 AM Author: Henna national boiling water
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Christy
Christy himself estimates that only about 55% of climate scientists actually believe in the anthropogenic disaster modely. It's only a consensus in the shitlib media.
Richard Lindzen, MIT professor of meteorology
https://youtu.be/pwvVephTIHU
Here is yet another climate scientist who says that it's not a problem, it's not really happening, and don't listen to the alarmists. It's astonishing this was published by a radical leftist rag, too. I can do this all day. I may not be a climate scientist but there are tons of skeptics with major accreditation. Christy has testified before Congress 22 times. How many times have the climate scientists you favor testified before Congress? I'm not putting forth shmucks here ttbomk. My point is there are a TON of legitimate climate scientists whose ideas I am aping on a much lower level. You have drank too much media koolaid. If I had to guess, I bet real world climate scientists are actually a lot more based and climate skeptic than the general public. The people advancing climate alarmism are often politicians and business people, not actual scientists.
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Date: March 17th, 2024 11:13 PM Author: Henna national boiling water
This is not remotely scientific. Here is some actual science: every climate model created by climate scientists who purport a looming climate crisis since 1994 have been proven wrong by satellite observation.
Another fun fact is that the average disastrous climate model purports that for every degree in Kelvins the Earth warms up, it expels 1.4 watts per meter squared into the atmosphere. When this phenomenon is observed in real life today by real scientists, they found that the Earth actually expels 2.6 watts per meter squared into outer space for every Kelvin the Earth heats up. They over estimate the retention of heat in the atmosphere in order to produce their desired result which is fear mongering.
In other words, every climate model predicting a crisis has used a faulty and dishonest metric to predict doom and gloom, and made baseless assumptions about observable phenomenona. Still think the Earth is heating up due to humans because it "ought to be happening" based on the stuff we put into the atmosphere?
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:15 PM Author: Henna national boiling water
The Earth has warmed 1 C since 1800.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/65_Myr_Climate_Change.png
No dramatic non-human changes in this Earth's history!
"Physics and chemistry are difficult to understand, but a kindergartener can understand climate change." - John Kerry
It's so simple that politicians and activists can't understand the data but it's easy to brainwash a normie with "Earth hot, we're all gonna die, humans to blame, clean energy now!" Slogans so simple, science so sophisticated.
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