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Calling it: 5 to 4 it's not a 1A violation for govt to work with SM companies.

I could see Gorsuch agreeing even maybe
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
what is SM and why is it bad thing if SM workwith govt
razzle flatulent mexican laser beams
  03/18/24
cq
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
i thoguht the govt is guaranteed to oscillate betweeen 1 of ...
razzle flatulent mexican laser beams
  03/18/24
iirc some analysis showed that there was a lot more contact ...
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
but not weekly meetings with the FBI and a hotline to the tr...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
and the tech cos were full of ex-IC people.
Bearded mood theater
  03/18/24
yeah, that was probably the most egregious part, just send a...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
it's true they both sides want to. only the libs have the cu...
Bearded mood theater
  03/18/24
sure. and the contact was along the lines of 'why do you kee...
contagious irate address water buffalo
  03/18/24
the dem stuff was much worse, more like "please hide th...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
great, so we lose drake, but get to keep disingenuous scumba...
contagious irate address water buffalo
  03/18/24
social media companies
Concupiscible nibblets rehab
  03/18/24
it is obviously horseshit and shouldn't be allowed but I'm n...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
(reasonable moderate)
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
in a just world the court would recognize the change in circ...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
should be 'easy' enough to find did any social media compan...
contagious irate address water buffalo
  03/18/24
you don't have to actually shoot somebody to have assaulted ...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
I pray you're wrong
Sapphire startling range
  03/18/24
this case makes me angrier than any other
floppy box office
  03/18/24
...
Bearded mood theater
  03/18/24
Yes they were just working with them lmao
garnet hairy legs
  03/18/24
we know that the political types are partisan as hell and th...
Bearded mood theater
  03/18/24
SCOTUS likes to write opinions that set forth rules, not dec...
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
the laptop was an example of how this works. the actual case...
Bearded mood theater
  03/18/24
Confession: I don't know anything about this. It's still a...
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
you've started a conversation
effete sepia stock car chad
  03/18/24
If the White House can send a request to Twitter to remove s...
Soul-stirring coffee pot philosopher-king
  03/18/24
We don't have a country anymore
Clear famous landscape painting filthpig
  03/18/24
justices seemed pretty hostile to the states at oral argumen...
Puce potus
  03/18/24
jfc that would put a nail in the coffin.
Bearded mood theater
  03/18/24
Jackson in particular seems to hold the 1A in low regard
Puce potus
  03/18/24
she can't read cursive
hideous trip pit
  03/18/24
the fate of the republic turns on a birdbrain and a closeted...
floppy box office
  03/18/24
What’s the argument that it would be a violation? As f...
Pink legend church
  03/18/24
coercing a private actor to take action that it would be unc...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
The problem is the govt clearly already does that in a bunch...
Pink legend church
  03/18/24
it wasn't just a request, they pretty transparently sent sen...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
Im not disagreeing. I just don’t think it’s wors...
Pink legend church
  03/18/24
what are these bunches of other things the government does t...
frum topaz queen of the night juggernaut
  03/18/24
See below. They’re allowed to literally give/withhold ...
Pink legend church
  03/18/24
they actually aren't, that was a key part of the obamacare r...
vibrant painfully honest reading party jew
  03/18/24
Suppose the only town square is privately owned and the loca...
Kink-friendly learning disabled newt home
  03/18/24
...
Sapphire startling range
  03/18/24
Suppose all the nations institutions of learning whether sta...
Pink legend church
  03/18/24
i don't understand what you're talking about, can you be mor...
frum topaz queen of the night juggernaut
  03/18/24
Let me guess: The three libs and the two "R" women...
Kink-friendly learning disabled newt home
  03/18/24
So at the very same moment that the government is contemplat...
greedy halford
  03/18/24
...
Sapphire startling range
  03/18/24
This is probably one of those cases where the outcome doesn'...
Talented Fighting Genital Piercing
  03/18/24
I am watching the oral argument and I think maybe only Thoma...
Mewling Senate
  03/18/24
alito is solid too
Puce potus
  03/18/24


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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:51 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

I could see Gorsuch agreeing even maybe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504623)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:55 PM
Author: razzle flatulent mexican laser beams

what is SM and why is it bad thing if SM workwith govt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504640)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:58 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504658)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: razzle flatulent mexican laser beams

i thoguht the govt is guaranteed to oscillate betweeen 1 of 2 choice so why it matters if its work with govt if its guaranteed to be undone 4 year lateR?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504664)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

iirc some analysis showed that there was a lot more contact during the Drumpf administration. I'm sure they all want to do it, just on different issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504690)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

but not weekly meetings with the FBI and a hotline to the trust and safety heads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504710)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:14 PM
Author: Bearded mood theater

and the tech cos were full of ex-IC people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504717)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

yeah, that was probably the most egregious part, just send an FBI agent directly in to be GC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504724)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Bearded mood theater

it's true they both sides want to. only the libs have the cultural power to pull it off rn.

at the Congressional hearings some lib woman kept testifying "the Trump people tried to do it too -- and we blocked that!" as if that was helping the libs' argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504726)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:00 PM
Author: contagious irate address water buffalo

sure. and the contact was along the lines of 'why do you keep promoting lies against the trump administration?'

rather than dem contact being 'please promote the following lies against the trump administration'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505024)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:01 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

the dem stuff was much worse, more like "please hide the following accounts no matter what they post because we hates them"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505027)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:06 PM
Author: contagious irate address water buffalo

great, so we lose drake, but get to keep disingenuous scumball epah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505045)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible nibblets rehab

social media companies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505360)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:53 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

it is obviously horseshit and shouldn't be allowed but I'm not sure they have any specific evidence of coercion (which was of course heavily implied)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504630)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:54 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

(reasonable moderate)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504636)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:56 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

in a just world the court would recognize the change in circumstances and invent a new test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504647)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:05 PM
Author: contagious irate address water buffalo

should be 'easy' enough to find

did any social media companies get the government requests and not accommodate them? what happened?

did all of these bitch companies who got the requests not accommodate them right away? what happened?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505043)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:41 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

you don't have to actually shoot somebody to have assaulted them with a deadly weapon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505880)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:53 PM
Author: Sapphire startling range

I pray you're wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504632)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:56 PM
Author: floppy box office

this case makes me angrier than any other

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504643)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:56 PM
Author: Bearded mood theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504646)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: garnet hairy legs

Yes they were just working with them lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504650)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:59 PM
Author: Bearded mood theater

we know that the political types are partisan as hell and that they have partisan motives and got caught censoring on partisan grounds (eg, the Russians created Hunter's laptop!).

but then in the questions from Jackson and Barrett they act as if the censoring feds are pure and noble and are simply trying to protect us.

jfc.

after the Fairness Doctrine died, one of the bureaucrats said, "yes of course we used it to push our political narratives and punish our opponents'.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504659)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:02 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

SCOTUS likes to write opinions that set forth rules, not decide specific cases. The case isn't about Hunter's laptop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504671)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Bearded mood theater

the laptop was an example of how this works. the actual case involved, among other things, the feds shutting down a Stanford professor who voiced the opinion that COVID didn't deeply threaten kids and that schools should remain open.

my point still remains: if we base the rule on the assumption that politcians and partisans are neutrals who act only in the common good we are ignoring law, history, and reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504704)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:21 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

Confession: I don't know anything about this. It's still a good thread though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504734)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:44 PM
Author: effete sepia stock car chad

you've started a conversation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504977)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:04 PM
Author: Soul-stirring coffee pot philosopher-king

If the White House can send a request to Twitter to remove stolen nudes of Hunter Biden how is this America?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504684)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:06 PM
Author: Clear famous landscape painting filthpig

We don't have a country anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504689)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Puce potus

justices seemed pretty hostile to the states at oral argument, i think the us wins the case. barrett and roberts with the libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504721)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: Bearded mood theater

jfc that would put a nail in the coffin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504743)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:25 PM
Author: Puce potus

Jackson in particular seems to hold the 1A in low regard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504751)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: hideous trip pit

she can't read cursive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505353)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: floppy box office

the fate of the republic turns on a birdbrain and a closeted pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504913)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:36 PM
Author: Pink legend church

What’s the argument that it would be a violation? As far as I recall case law has always said govt has a right to speak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504953)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

coercing a private actor to take action that it would be unconstitutional for the gov't itself to take, but yes this is the problem with the case, they can bitch about things if they want

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504959)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:48 PM
Author: Pink legend church

The problem is the govt clearly already does that in a bunch of other ways that are actually coercive whereas here afaik it was just a request. Eg all the strings attached $$$ that force companies and states to basically do whatever the govt wants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504990)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:57 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

it wasn't just a request, they pretty transparently sent senior intelligence officials to run large sections of the companies, then set up official channels to flag content they wanted removed with an expectation that it would be, just because there isn't an email saying "or else" doesn't make it not corrupt as all fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505013)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:40 PM
Author: Pink legend church

Im not disagreeing. I just don’t think it’s worse than what the govt already does elsewhere and if anything the coercion is less clear

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505174)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:39 PM
Author: frum topaz queen of the night juggernaut

what are these bunches of other things the government does that are worse and fully legal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505364)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:44 PM
Author: Pink legend church

See below. They’re allowed to literally give/withhold cash to get anyone to do or say what they want. They’re allowed to do that but you don’t think they can simply ask them to do what they want? Seems unlikely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505663)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:42 PM
Author: vibrant painfully honest reading party jew

they actually aren't, that was a key part of the obamacare ruling back in the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505884)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:16 PM
Author: Kink-friendly learning disabled newt home

Suppose the only town square is privately owned and the local authorities say that if they don't like the demonstrations taking place, they'll turn the screws on the property owner, so obey when the government says to shut down speech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505092)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: Sapphire startling range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505131)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:43 PM
Author: Pink legend church

Suppose all the nations institutions of learning whether state or privately owned can either effectively shutdown or adopt a bunch of govt viewpoints and programs …

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505181)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: frum topaz queen of the night juggernaut

i don't understand what you're talking about, can you be more specific

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505869)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:14 PM
Author: Kink-friendly learning disabled newt home

Let me guess: The three libs and the two "R" women (Roberts and ACB) think it was ok because they were scared shitless of covid and wiped their groceries clean for months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505086)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:42 PM
Author: greedy halford

So at the very same moment that the government is contemplating banning the #1 social media app among youths simply because they don't like its owner, they are also arguing that their powers of coercion aren't a 1A violation?

God help us all if the Court gets this one wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505179)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:54 PM
Author: Sapphire startling range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505220)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:52 PM
Author: Talented Fighting Genital Piercing

This is probably one of those cases where the outcome doesn't matter because we'll get a clear rule going forward. e

If the rule is "the government can make requests so long as it doesn't have a threat attached" - then all the companies going forward can at least know they can tell the government to fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505406)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:40 PM
Author: Mewling Senate

I am watching the oral argument and I think maybe only Thomas goes in favor of freedom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505636)



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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:41 PM
Author: Puce potus

alito is solid too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505648)