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programmers are so utterly fucked

we're the equivalent of telephone operators in 1975
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
Product Managers will continue to thrive
Aquamarine vigorous hell
  03/23/24
lol product managers are already getting laid off. executive...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
...
Trip preventive strike kitty cat
  03/23/24
dammit i keep forgetting this is cowtard and not the actual ...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
...
mind-boggling scourge upon the earth hospital
  03/23/24
...
aromatic rusted whorehouse skinny woman
  03/24/24
journalists too
odious alcoholic famous landscape painting
  03/23/24
this is their last gasp right now
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
Most software is garbage, so this is no surprise
Exhilarant corn cake orchestra pit
  03/23/24
its about to get even worse. but there will be more of it.
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
SS Big Changes finally coming into port, laden with Sub-Saha...
Exhilarant corn cake orchestra pit
  03/23/24
ex programmers strapped to wall-E chairs with ketamine IVs, ...
Trip preventive strike kitty cat
  03/23/24
tp.
Big-titted fiercely-loyal parlor
  03/23/24
Devin looks great. won't be many years until we can fire all...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/23/24
im so glad i took the safe route of studying engineering in ...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
I’m gay
Big-titted fiercely-loyal parlor
  03/23/24
Huh? Programmers make 6 figures straight out of state school...
underhanded overrated shrine
  03/23/24
Not anymore. Tech hiring is ITE levels right now unless you'...
Trip preventive strike kitty cat
  03/23/24
i didnt say tech companies are fucked. AI is going to let th...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
tbf, other professions are in trouble before long too. Speci...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/23/24
I think biglaw will be fine for a while though because partn...
Trip preventive strike kitty cat
  03/23/24
Learn to code
passionate smoky piazza pervert
  03/23/24
...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
fucked are the hungry tp
lilac soul-stirring windowlicker
  03/23/24
There’s always coal mining
charismatic burgundy ape
  03/23/24
I’m rooting for AI to destroy the world and myself.
translucent business firm fanboi
  03/23/24
tp.
lilac soul-stirring windowlicker
  03/23/24
...
Big-titted fiercely-loyal parlor
  03/23/24
The crazy thing about AI is no one really has a clue wtf it ...
Electric Amber Toaster Dopamine
  03/23/24
AI frees up time for humans to kill each other more
Racy talking locus
  03/23/24
You say that but AI will be key in killing humans too. Imag...
Apoplectic Telephone Hissy Fit
  03/24/24
All attorneys will be fucked too. Go look at the latest vers...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/23/24
no way man they cant replace precisely what that pumo happen...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
It’s the same cope you see on programmer forums. Inter...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/23/24
artists, writers etc. are used to being fucked and generally...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
That’s probably it. I see a lot of “we were alre...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/23/24
I think there's a material difference though, in that anyone...
Electric Amber Toaster Dopamine
  03/23/24
right, ppl love paying attorneys. youll be fine.
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
I don't think that I'm too special but I think there is at l...
Electric Amber Toaster Dopamine
  03/23/24
llms are better at reading than you are too
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
I have not really been blown away by the legal AI stuff I ha...
talented mental disorder
  03/23/24
it doesnt matter what impresses me. companies are already pl...
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
I actually agree with this but there’s so much room fo...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/23/24
sounds like typical naive technological progress is inevitab...
Light menage
  03/24/24
Not really a fallacy when there is a clear path to further l...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/24/24
Imo there are tons of problems in society that we don’...
Aquamarine vigorous hell
  03/23/24
So “learn to code” was flame?
razzmatazz stead mexican
  03/23/24
Just learn to coal
charismatic burgundy ape
  03/23/24
Can ai even replace Starbucks baristas? That would be nice f...
underhanded overrated shrine
  03/23/24
robotics are the next step
Stubborn ruddy trust fund
  03/23/24
You’re absolutely insane is you don’t have 100 a...
wonderful maniacal nursing home old irish cottage
  03/23/24
Maybe the real low level ones. There will be a ton of work s...
Dashing rose sweet tailpipe crotch
  03/24/24
except AI sucks and continues to suck.
Lake gay wizard dingle berry
  03/24/24
"It can't even file my taxes!"
Trip preventive strike kitty cat
  03/24/24
Wrong
Magical curious dragon
  03/24/24
...
concupiscible potus stage
  03/24/24
tv/film actors. back to the amphitheatres for them!
hairraiser generalized bond
  03/24/24
Writers are way more screwed
canary athletic conference
  03/24/24
scripts to 1-Act Plays sound ok to me.
hairraiser generalized bond
  03/24/24
AI has already plateaued
Light menage
  03/24/24
ljl
Magical curious dragon
  03/24/24


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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:10 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

we're the equivalent of telephone operators in 1975

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520132)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:11 PM
Author: Aquamarine vigorous hell

Product Managers will continue to thrive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520138)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:17 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

lol product managers are already getting laid off. executives will be managing AI agents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520158)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:36 PM
Author: Trip preventive strike kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520240)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:40 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

dammit i keep forgetting this is cowtard and not the actual Drake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520253)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 7:12 PM
Author: mind-boggling scourge upon the earth hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520369)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:01 AM
Author: aromatic rusted whorehouse skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521995)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:13 PM
Author: odious alcoholic famous landscape painting

journalists too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520145)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:18 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

this is their last gasp right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520162)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:18 PM
Author: Exhilarant corn cake orchestra pit

Most software is garbage, so this is no surprise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520161)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:18 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

its about to get even worse. but there will be more of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520165)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: Exhilarant corn cake orchestra pit

SS Big Changes finally coming into port, laden with Sub-Saharans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520177)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:38 PM
Author: Trip preventive strike kitty cat

ex programmers strapped to wall-E chairs with ketamine IVs, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520244)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:40 PM
Author: Big-titted fiercely-loyal parlor

tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520252)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:34 PM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

Devin looks great. won't be many years until we can fire all the coders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520234)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

im so glad i took the safe route of studying engineering in college, rather than something i actually enjoyed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520249)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:36 PM
Author: Big-titted fiercely-loyal parlor

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520241)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:50 PM
Author: underhanded overrated shrine

Huh? Programmers make 6 figures straight out of state school at 21. Advances are all in the tech companies. U really think their jobs will become obsolete while some fantasy like Tsinah will be the new "programmer"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520292)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:52 PM
Author: Trip preventive strike kitty cat

Not anymore. Tech hiring is ITE levels right now unless you're an AI superstudyazn for new grads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520304)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

i didnt say tech companies are fucked. AI is going to let them drastically reduce headcount. F500 is already preparing for this. its just a fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520306)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:58 PM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

tbf, other professions are in trouble before long too. Specialized legal LLMs will absolutely reduce headcount substantially too. Sora and successors will devastate creative professions. We are at the beginning of mass automation in all sectors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520330)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: Trip preventive strike kitty cat

I think biglaw will be fine for a while though because partners are the types who would do shit like hire a 200000k indentured servant just because it's what everyone else is doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520460)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: passionate smoky piazza pervert

Learn to code

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520309)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:54 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520312)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: lilac soul-stirring windowlicker

fucked are the hungry tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520310)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 7:01 PM
Author: charismatic burgundy ape

There’s always coal mining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520338)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 7:04 PM
Author: translucent business firm fanboi

I’m rooting for AI to destroy the world and myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520350)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 7:18 PM
Author: lilac soul-stirring windowlicker

tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520398)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: Big-titted fiercely-loyal parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520424)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:04 PM
Author: Electric Amber Toaster Dopamine

The crazy thing about AI is no one really has a clue wtf it will do.

Who would've guest that creative fields would be the first things humans would be replaced at? And it seems like that is probably the first thing to go.

Medicine seems safe, but really all you'd need is some combo of AI plus Thereanos that works and most doctors would be fucked.

I actually think transactional attorneys are in pretty good shape for a while because you still need a human expert to confirm the AI is correct - but it still seems like a ticking time bomb before we are all just replaced by AI and humans are just twiddling our thumbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520983)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: Racy talking locus

AI frees up time for humans to kill each other more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520999)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 4:21 PM
Author: Apoplectic Telephone Hissy Fit

You say that but AI will be key in killing humans too. Imagine guns that aim largely by AI, drones largely flown by AI, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47522632)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:18 PM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

All attorneys will be fucked too. Go look at the latest version of Claude and then go listen to their plans to increase training resources by 100x in the next few years. This is the end of human labor. It’s over in a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521031)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:21 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

no way man they cant replace precisely what that pumo happens to do. he's too special.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521037)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:25 PM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

It’s the same cope you see on programmer forums. Interestingly, it seems like artists are the least deluded about this and recognize the existential threat posed by Sora and the other diffusion models. Everyone else is burying their heads in the sand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521054)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:27 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

artists, writers etc. are used to being fucked and generally have low self-esteem. programmers have been pampered and called geniuses for a good 30 years now. their obsolescence is a much tougher pill to swallow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521059)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:34 PM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

That’s probably it. I see a lot of “we were already making peanuts for all of our work, and now even that’s going away.” Everyone else is still so high off their status that they feel comfortable ignoring the problem until they are jobless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521078)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:31 PM
Author: Electric Amber Toaster Dopamine

I think there's a material difference though, in that anyone is capable of looking at art and saying "this is good" versus that they are less confident looking at a contract and thinking "this is correct."

Again, obviously eventually AI will replace us all - but i think lawyers have a bit longer run rate because normal people aren't as comfortable reading legal contracts and will want to pay an attorney to reveiw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521072)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:32 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

right, ppl love paying attorneys. youll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521073)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:28 PM
Author: Electric Amber Toaster Dopamine

I don't think that I'm too special but I think there is at least a brief window where people will want a human to vet the AI's work.

I think transactional lawyers can do this (and maybe the bar can help block AI too).

But i view my job as being willing to read and undersetand boroing contracts no one else wants to read. I presume that that even if AI is writing the contracts (which is a time savings, but a minimum one from a transactional drafting it), that they'll still want a human attorney to review.

I think this is a slight leg up from marketing/branding folks - where a CEO could just say "Write me 500 slogans for a campaign for widgets" and then pick their favorite without employing an entire marketing deparatment...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521063)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

llms are better at reading than you are too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521067)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:32 PM
Author: talented mental disorder

I have not really been blown away by the legal AI stuff I have seen so far. Like an AI saying that the "indemnity" section of the contract is the section titled "indemnity". What have you seen that impressed you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521074)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:35 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

it doesnt matter what impresses me. companies are already planning on replacing everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521080)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:37 PM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

I actually agree with this but there’s so much room for optimization here that it’s basically irrelevant. This is not a mature technology at all and simply training models harder on the latest Nvidia GPUs is likely to close many of the remaining gaps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521092)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: Light menage

sounds like typical naive technological progress is inevitable without major breakthroughs fallacy. just assume everything will Inevitability Get Better while ignoring the fact that e.g. self-driving cars have been stuck at the same "not quite good enough for prime time" plateau for years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47522021)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: concupiscible potus stage

Not really a fallacy when there is a clear path to further loss reductions simply by training on more data and making models larger. This is how the advances are occurring now.

https://gwern.net/scaling-hypothesis

Self driving is an AGI hard problem if you want the computer to be able to exercise judgement in unfamiliar situations. Generative world models trained on more data will likely fix these problems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47522034)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:44 PM
Author: Aquamarine vigorous hell

Imo there are tons of problems in society that we don’t have the resources to solve atm supposedly. Instead of thumb-twiddling, these problems would become solvable

Liberal arts research

Education (currently done by idiots bc OCI jobs are available)

Development of exclusive Playstation games

Infrastructure

Fat camps for adults

Preserving endangered species

Solving Crimes

Solving homelessness

Putting Women through some kind of finishing school that makes them suck less

Baldness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521116)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:06 PM
Author: razzmatazz stead mexican

So “learn to code” was flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47520995)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:18 PM
Author: charismatic burgundy ape

Just learn to coal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521029)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: underhanded overrated shrine

Can ai even replace Starbucks baristas? That would be nice for sbux and mcd stock.. instead they have to pay $20/hr for monkey qork

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521087)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 10:37 PM
Author: Stubborn ruddy trust fund

robotics are the next step

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521090)



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Date: March 23rd, 2024 11:03 PM
Author: wonderful maniacal nursing home old irish cottage

You’re absolutely insane is you don’t have 100 acres of arable land

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521181)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 10:25 AM
Author: Dashing rose sweet tailpipe crotch

Maybe the real low level ones. There will be a ton of work still for people to command AI resources. Things are just going to keep going into hyperdrive. It will get really weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521934)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 10:42 AM
Author: Lake gay wizard dingle berry

except AI sucks and continues to suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521964)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: Trip preventive strike kitty cat

"It can't even file my taxes!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521983)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:00 AM
Author: Magical curious dragon

Wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521994)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:22 AM
Author: concupiscible potus stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47522018)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 10:46 AM
Author: hairraiser generalized bond

tv/film actors. back to the amphitheatres for them!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521970)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 10:56 AM
Author: canary athletic conference

Writers are way more screwed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521989)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:02 AM
Author: hairraiser generalized bond

scripts to 1-Act Plays sound ok to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47521996)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: Light menage

AI has already plateaued

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47522022)



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Date: March 24th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Magical curious dragon

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508092&forum_id=2#47522033)