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Date: March 28th, 2024 9:02 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Titillating Headpube https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/28/7448537/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534474) |
Date: March 28th, 2024 9:48 AM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse Ukrainian intelligence here to tell you Russia can't do that thing Ukrainian intelligence said they were going to do. Ukrainian intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534525) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: heady dilemma they try an brand Meduza - a CIA funded anti-Kremlin machine run out of Latvia by a Ukrainian - as a Kremlin mouthpiece here.
Uke propagandists are amazing.
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:17 AM Author: pontificating public bath should be even easier for the russians once 500k 155mm shells arrive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534553) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: khaki faggotry Why haven't the 500k shells been delivered yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534580) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:37 AM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse They probably were delivered. It just doesn't matter now that Russia is shooting these enormous missiles at Ukrainian cities
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:21 AM Author: pontificating public bath enough have started arriving that the russians are already starting to feel it
you can’t fire all 500k at once anyways genius. and by end of the year looks like at least 1.5 million will be delivered from foreign partners not including the US and its own sourcing |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:22 AM Author: khaki faggotry Literally no proof 500k shells arrived (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534641) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:41 AM Author: pontificating public bath I didn’t say they all had been, dipshit. read again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534684) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:44 AM Author: khaki faggotry hint: none of have delivered (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534689) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:23 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit 🤣 Ukraine is such a ridiculous fake country. Same people who said that Russia will never take Bakhmut or Avdiivka. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534565) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: alcoholic factory reset button box office Russia is so 180 and based for starting a land grab war with a neighbor and sending hundreds of thousands of men to die for no good reason.
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse and for being more technologically advanced than America, and having nicer cities and higher quality of life than America. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534577) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit "I don't understand why Russia is doing this so it must not have a reason for doing this. I, of course, have no idea who these people are, what the history of this place is, or much else beyond what my stupid local sports teams are doing right now." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534599) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:22 PM Author: alcoholic factory reset button box office (guy who would be chill with England re-colonizing America) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534785) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:28 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit Ironically, the reasons I wouldn't be chill with that are also why it would be impossible for them to do so (they're shitlib limp-wristed POSes). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534800) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: Hateful greedy area lettuce i appreciate your spelling things properly, but no one ever said those places wouldn't be taken. we mocked russia for taking 8+ months to seize bakhmut after sending endless waves of wagner meat.
wagner no longer exists as an independent organization by the way.
avdiivka was even worse because it was a stone's throw from Donetsk that rus has had since 2014. that still took 3 months.
i personally posted videos of dozens of dozens (yes, dozens of dozens) of tanks and ifvs destroyed in the taking of avdiivka.
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit Ha, I've gotten shit for years from various family for being lazy and using Ukrainian spelling/pronunciations for places I didn't know before Ukrainianization. It is pure laziness but I get the big ones correct - Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Donbass, etc. But remembering to call "Bakhmut" Artemovsk instead takes effort that I don't always make and iirc, Avdiivka is like Avdeyevka or something similar.
In any event, if you reinforce a place enough then it'll take a long time to take. The new advances in FABs will make future work go more fastly (shoutout to BooR).
Wagner no longer exists because Prigo decided to take on the entire government.
And I could post all sorts of horrors from the Ukrainian side. I don't see what that actually accomplishes. Yes, of course Russia lost tanks and ifvs in an attack on one of Ukraine's most fortified locations. Ukraine lost massive amounts of everything too. They actually could have lost a lot less with a better and more timely withdrawal (which Zaluzhny wanted but he was removed by the cokehead). |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:35 AM Author: pontificating public bath why is russia struggling so much against a fake country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534667) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:39 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit Because of the absolutely massive amount of NATO support. No one, not even cokehead Zelinsky, believes that Ukraine would stand a snowball's chance in hell without NATO support. And they're still losing even with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534677) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:44 AM Author: pontificating public bath what is russia going to do when the real NATO support starts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534690) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:49 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit LMAO, go on. What's this "real NATO support?" So far, as time has gone on shit has gotten worse and worse for Ukraine. Now your hope is what, that NATO will directly fight Russia for Ukraine? That already got shot down, btw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534701) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:53 AM Author: pontificating public bath wow, you are so ill informed it doesn’t even seem possible
good luck with your splendid little war of conquest. you’re doing great |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:56 AM Author: iridescent big shitlib crackhouse why do you care if you win this debate with him? he's just a troll. Every time you engage with him you give him an opportunity to spread Russian bullshit to people who don't know any better.
spend your time advocating for Ukraine to actually get the support it needs. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: khaki faggotry "Russian disinformation!" bellowed the IPA got low effort tranny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534740) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit We are doing great! But here's the thing - it was always inevitable that Russia would win. You guys basically only had the hope that Russia would collapse before it won, which predictably didn't happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534729) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:49 PM Author: pontificating public bath “We’ve already won,” bellowed the russiacuck while the war isn’t even half over (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534857) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:57 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit I agree that the war isn't even half over. But if it isn't half over and Ukraine is massively short on bodies, then they're fucked. Your only hope is that Ukraine puts a huge number of boots on the ground into direct combat. That's not really going to happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534871) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:32 PM Author: awkward hunting ground To be fair,
Wow, thooooo dark. Sounds like Putler might be dun here.
When does "the real NATO support" start? Can we get a month? I'd like to know in advance so I'm not so "ill informed" on this subject.
Thank :) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:35 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534823) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:32 PM Author: awkward hunting ground To be fair,
Why is Russia struggling to take physical control over the largest (by far) country by landmass in Europe, which also just happens to be the recipient of literally hundreds of billions of dollars worth of NATO military aid over the last two years?
Yeah it's a real fucking mystery... pathetic!
Lol Juan. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:35 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534821) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:45 AM Author: 180 Low-t Plaza Candlestick Maker Nobody knows or cares WTF a kharkiv is. Fuck off with this Slavic squabbling. Or at least have the balls to go join the front lines and poast from there, that would be interesting. But really, nobody cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534596) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Titillating Headpube (guy who clicked on and responded to a poast about Kharkiv) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534602) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:52 AM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse Ukrainecucks made up a fake story about Russia "invading" this city, then it didn't happen. Now Ukrainecucks are admitting they were full of shit the whole time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534605) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit FYI - Kharkov is the second largest city in the country and once upon a time was the capital of Ukraine. "Kharkiv" is just a stupid Ukrainized spelling of the city that no one actually from there ever uses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534613) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:00 AM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse The city is a bombed out wreck now. Why would Russia invade it? Ukrainecucks really need to defend Kiev at some point. That's the actual capital city but they are letting Russia blow it all up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534621) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:31 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit 1) Nah, it isn't. It is mostly intact.
2) Because Kharkov and Odessa are probably the two biggest cities associated with Russian Ukraine. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 5:00 PM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse "Jesus, the association." That's your reasoning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535101) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 8:37 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit This war is all about culture and history in addition to the strategic issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535305) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:02 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Titillating Headpube With all of Ukraine's population losses, it arguably makes more long-term sense for them just to forget about the east of the country and have the pro-Ukrainian residents move to somewhere like Kiev. Yes, they will lose a lot of economically important land, but Ukraine will be the darling of the EU after this war and aid from them will more than make up for the coal or whatever they could have gotten from the Donbas.
That will leave a hardcore pro-Ukraine and anti-Russian country, protected by one of the largest rivers in the world, with strong Western support. A good long-term formula for a successful country. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:13 AM Author: khaki faggotry lol we're hitting levels of cope that shouldn't be possible.
What makes you think Russia will just stop and let this scenario happen? |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:38 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit Honestly, there's a ton of support that some version of this would work. I don't know if Kiev is really that place, but certainly Western Ukraine is a part of the world Russia is fairly ambivalent about. And I don't think many people comprehend just how milquetoast Putin actually is. If he holds everything east of the Dnepr + Odessa + possibly Kiev he is going to start thinking about wrapping shit up. At that point if the West offers him money to leave the rest of Ukraine to them he might just take it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534672) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:50 AM Author: khaki faggotry Except this can't happen by virtue of the fact th US would never allow it. Ukraine has to fight tooth and nail to hold onto every single inch of territory because if it's seen that they're doing any kind of tactical or strategic retreats, Ukraine will lose support from the West. "Why should we funnel billion more of $$$ when Ukraine is retreating?"
The consequence of this is that Ukraine suffers massive casualties, which is why they're critically short of manpower. Ukraine's burn rate for manpower and equipment is crazy high and it's force generation rate is dimensioning every day (i.e. they can't replace the losses they're experiencing in equipment and soldiers).
At this point, the only way Ukraine can stop the war is by surrendering. But they won't do that, so instead you're going to see a general collapse of the Ukraine army. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:26 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit The WH recently said that as long as Ukraine exists as a democratic Western country that they will have won the war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534798) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Titillating Headpube With Europe's help alone, Ukraine can prevent Russia from taking Kiev or Odessa. Hell, Russia couldn't even hold their foothold over the Dnieper at Kherson, and yet you think they will be able to make an opposed crossing?
All of Russia's gains are slow and at huge cost. That will be even worse as Europe increases its production of artillery by 20x in coming years. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:01 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit Except that Ukraine has a massive manpower shortage that is getting worse. Russia continues to mobilize manpower. Russia will continue to have a firepower advantage - both in artillery and via airpower.
Russia isn't going to stop before taking Odessa. They'll probably take Kiev too. The only question is if Ukraine would offer them a big "we give up a bunch of shit if you offer to let us keep W. Ukraine and you get an instant win at no cost and we get to exist." |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:47 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Titillating Headpube DESCRIBE the militarily feasible plan whereby Russia crosses the Dnieper with the bridges blown and Ukraine defending the other side.
Hint: there isn't one, you dumb son of a bitch. |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: pontificating public bath he really is the dumbest motherfucker who dares post about military affairs, except maybe tbf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534860) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:52 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit By this point the AFU has lost pretty much everything else E. of the Dnepr. The AFU has been largely destroyed. Russia is raining FABs on anywhere near the river. Ukraine has been losing, losing and losing again. All the "turning points" never materialized. Morale is total shit. Russia needs a crossing point SOMEWHERE along the Dnepr to begin their advance to what remains. It isn't that hard to see what happens next. Temporary bridges get built at a specific point. They may also be bombarding Kiev at this point but instead of moving on Kiev they're actually preparing a major push on Odessa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534862) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit I mean yes, if they basically moved everyone that wanted to leave to W. Ukraine and left Russia everything else they could probably convince Russia to take the win and call it a day.
The reason they won't do that is because I think everyone would be surprised at how many people stay in what becomes Russia and how few people end up in what's left of "Ukraine." |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:50 AM Author: pontificating public bath there’s zero chance russia would be okay with this in the long run. the appetite grows with the eating and the russian power elite is making so much money off this war they have zero reason to want to stop until they are stopped (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534703) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:57 AM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit So if Russia holds Kiev, Odessa, and everything E. of the Dnepr that Russia is going to demand to take W. Ukraine even if the West offers Russia a payout not to and even though Russia doesn't really want it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534727) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:43 PM Author: pontificating public bath who writes like this lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535073) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 11:15 AM Author: beady-eyed set coffee pot Are they close to Kyiv yet or nah? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534631) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 12:35 PM Author: awkward hunting ground To be fair,
I hear from trust sources that Russia is FUKT because "THE REAL NATO SUPPORT" is about to start any day now (no exact date has been given, but I'm sure it's looming on the horizon just wait two weeks). |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 1:02 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit They've been talking this nonsense since day 1 of the war. I still remember these jokers talking about how Russia is DUN HERE when NATO tanks get on the battlefield. Then we got a bunch of vids of them getting destroyed and the Ukrops got back to begging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47534875) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:20 PM Author: awkward hunting ground To be fair,
It's almost like they're totally full of shit and delusional.
But then again, who am I to say something like that -- we all remember when I infamously predicted that Kyieve would fall in 72 hours! (No one has ever been able to actually provide a link to that thread even though I have a standing offer to email anyone who can produce it my full name, DOB, SSN, and XO UN/PW from my personal Gmail as soon as they provide it... but look, we all saw it and remember it and that definitely happened!) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:44 PM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse Define "close." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535555) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 4:39 PM Author: multi-colored mood meetinghouse Everyone except Russia is saying this city is about to get rolled. Russia seems to be more interested in Chasov Yar. But I'm sure Ukrainian intelligence is right this time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535059) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 8:04 PM Author: Orange exciting orchestra pit Russia is definitely interested in it. They're doing a lot of FABs and other explosives in and around Kharkov right now. Supposedly they have about 100k troops for an operation that will start in May. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535256) |
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Date: March 28th, 2024 10:42 PM Author: glittery round eye Every time I see that fucking i I'm triggered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5510369&forum_id=2#47535547) |