US rush-expanding domestic microchip production portends China fears
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Date: April 10th, 2024 3:33 PM Author: Thriller Unhinged Corner Gaping
https://x.com/reuterstech/status/1777635061824700468?s=46
Between a couple of moves like this and an increased set of hostilities over the Taiwan straits, the era of Good Trade with China may be coming to a negotiated dim
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Date: April 10th, 2024 3:43 PM Author: aromatic clown psychic
If China looked set to invade Taiwan I expect we would tell Taiwan that if they wanted us to send a bunch of Patriots or whatever then they need to move a lot of their most advanced chip-making equipment and employees to the US.
And tell them that if they refused and China invaded we'd probably have to bomb their chip factories ourselves to keep China from capturing it intact.
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Date: April 11th, 2024 11:48 AM Author: House-broken Trump Supporter Codepig
That's a great way to encourage them to peacefully unify with China.
Option 1: lose everything by moving it to the US
Option 2: lose everything in the war
Option 3: join China peacefully and they'll probably offer some incentives for them to join
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47573931) |
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Date: April 10th, 2024 6:15 PM Author: Hairraiser ruby corn cake mental disorder
>phone made here in the west
HMD builds Nokia phones in Europe, enterprise-class ones
Also FWIW Samsung has Knox on their phones because of enterprise-level security utility
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571658) |
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Date: April 10th, 2024 5:49 PM Author: Green plaza
No, the end result of that can be either:
1. We keep buying shit from Asia
2. We make shit ourselves.
If we can do #2, why the fuck are Asians even in the picture? Is the idea supposed to be that Samsung will teach Americans how to build a clean room and operate a laser?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571578) |
Date: April 10th, 2024 3:52 PM Author: Cerebral shrine
These NOWAG chip comps cannot even find ppl to hire in US cause everyone so dumb and lazy and chip shit is hard.
LJL @ this entire thing, the biggest boondoogle in history it will turn out.
U cannot defeat China. Its over, they won. If u actually look at any stats for manufacturing, exports, scientific publications, STEM grads, industrial capacity, etc China is winning and in many cases already far ahead
And it's the US that will suffer. Tehy cannot cut China off because the entire US economy and society is about consuming bullshit. Take that away from Bobby Birdshit what will he do? Even moar meth? Thats also made in China
FURK USA CHINA WON
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Date: April 10th, 2024 4:11 PM Author: Cerebral shrine
LOL, what do u base that on? all these stupid stories that its economy is furked? The Economist printing another headline saying China is done here (after doing same shit for 30 years)
U ppl are idiots, they have the best system, best leaders, best people, best education, best skills. Just a hiccup is nothing u stupid faggot, South Korea's GDP dropped like 50% in late 90's during Asian Financial Crisis but it didnt stop it. China isn't even remotely anywhere as bad as that.
U ppl are furking retarded. And "superpower" ljl China doesnt care abt that, only dumbass Amerikkkans care abt that as their country burns to the ground from niggas and hobos and feminazis with cocks
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47571300) |
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Date: April 10th, 2024 10:47 PM Author: Hairraiser ruby corn cake mental disorder
> the biggest boondoogle in history it will turn out
think it will dwarf the rapetile $4.1Bn foxconn boondoggle in wisconsin?
i'd put money on samsung and biden over foxconn and walker even without politics entering into it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5515778&forum_id=2#47572675) |
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Date: April 10th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: Fragrant shimmering philosopher-king
These are important questions
Hungry people will not survive on a chip diet
People with good instincts will seek a better diet
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Date: April 10th, 2024 8:02 PM Author: Green plaza
Exactly. We're not supposed to be getting into consumer devices.
1. That's a shit market. Companies like MediaTek and Broadcom are the competition here. You gotta beat them before you can take on Samsung.
2. There's no risk of iPhones vanishing, period. There just isn't.
We are supposed to be making chips for military applications. The whole idea was to ween ourselves off foreign suppliers for them shit. The idea was to have a warm base that could make semiconductors on 28nm process and then push it from there. 28nm and above is supposed to be "legacy" technology that can be pawned off on the government. No idea what we need SAMSUNG for.
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Date: April 10th, 2024 11:16 PM Author: Green plaza
ljl Japs (ok Chinese this time) are still getting bent over by Micron 40 years after Micron turned that kind of thing into high art. Looks like they are picking up more ca$h out of this legislation that Samsung too. A lot more.
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On 22 October 2021, Micron closed the sale of IM Flash's Lehi, Utah fab to Texas Instruments for a sale price of US$900 million.[47] With the passage of the CHIPS and Science Act, Micron announced its pledge to invest billions in new manufacturing within the US.[48] In September 2022, Micron announced they would invest $15 billion in a new facility in Boise, Idaho.[49] In October 2022 Micron announced a $100 billion expansion in Clay, New York.[50][51]
In May 2023, the Cyberspace Administration of China barred major Chinese information infrastructure firms from purchasing Micron products, citing significant national security risks.[52] The move was seen as retaliation against US sanctions on China's semiconductor industry and related export controls.[53][52] In November 2023 Chinese chipmaker Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp (YMTC) filed a lawsuit against Micron alleging infringement of eight of its patents.[54]
On February 27, 2024, Judge Maxine Chesney of the U.S. Federal District Court in San Francisco acquitted Fujian Jinhua Integrated Circuit, whom Micron had sued for IP theft, of the charge in a non-jury verdict, believing that there was sufficient evidence to support the charge.[55][56]
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