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Date: April 11th, 2024 3:55 PM Author: onyx mexican
he implied that was discover, but got called out pretty quickly bc it's impossible for him to have gotten a check out of that so quickly. he then said it was from a dentist case, but SP pointed out that that case was dismissed a year ago and wondered aloud how it could have taken so long for the check to arrive.
it's entirely possible there was no settlement, but who knows.
if this hearing is related to the discover case, then ZZZ is probably in for a healthy buttfucking. based on what i know about the case (which i read in the thread about the first hearing), the court didn't grand summary judgment but told discover that she would do so if they could prove that TSINAH made a payment within the SOL period for debt collection. my guess is that they have supplemented their MSJ with that evidence and asked for another hearing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47574879) |
Date: April 12th, 2024 8:35 AM Author: pearly church
why was the hearing originally scheduled to hear a "motion to compel" but was amended 6 hours later for "Plaintiffs’ Motions To Compel, Continue The Hearing On The Motion For Summary Judgment And For Attorneys’ Fees"
also why are the apostrophes after plaintiffs and attorneys? are their multiple plaintiffs? multiple attorneys? jfc zzz you are dumb as a fucking rock lmao. can't even use proper punctuation in a one page proposed order. wow!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47576586) |
Date: April 15th, 2024 3:34 PM Author: umber milk double fault
Shitlaw discovery just hit the docket. LJL @ TSINAH making them go through the exercise of making him produce his bank statements. I bet you that BoA account shows the payment that "wasn't" made. Plus there's phone calls I'm praying are played into evidence.
REQUEST NO. 18: Admit that you spoke with a Discover representative regarding the Account on or about May 8, 2020 via telephone.
REQUEST NO. 19: Admit that you spoke with a Discover representative regarding the Account on or about August 31, 2020 via telephone.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47585283) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 3:52 PM Author: pearly church
they're requesting he admit he's a member of the bar. how could that be relevant to the litigation if they're not going to go after him for sanctions? or some other sort of penalty related to being licensed?
tsinah, i remember during your eviction ordeal i warned you about doing this type of shit while you were seeking to be admitted in another state. i assume you admission remains pending in part because of this stuff. i don't bear you any malice and i'm not bringing this up to embarrass you -- but you really need to reconsider the path you're on if you plan to continue practicing law. i've volunteered in my state's disciplinary system and this type of stuff is taken very seriously. it's really hard to get disbarred but it's really easy to run into problems getting admitted. considering you're already a licensed attorney and getting admitted into a new state is typically a lay-up, the fact it isn't happened yet (i assume) is very concerning. continuing to press with litigation like this is very dangerous. if you do seek to get admitted they will look for evidence of rehabilitation, so the longer you press it the longer you'll likely be waiting.
i can't imagine you actually think that this has merit. and personally i support fucking over finance companies with vexatious litigation. but not at the risk to your reputation and career.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47585350) |
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Date: April 15th, 2024 4:33 PM Author: pearly church
banks fuck shit like this all the time. it's not like discover counsel would take a big credibility hit if she relied on discover records that turned out to be erroneous. tsinah, on the other hand, is treading on really thin ice. unless he has some plausible explanation on how an account he controlled sent an electronic payment to a loan, which apparently he used for prior payments, *didn't* come from him.
like, this isn't fun and games. intentionally lying, and persisting with a lie, to a court, in avoidance of a legitimate debt, is really bad. like, actual disciplinary action bad. i've seen people get publicly disciplined for far, far less in my jx.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47585446) |
Date: April 26th, 2024 8:45 PM Author: pearly church
lmao zzz just filed a protective order asking the court to not allow defendant to get tsinah's bank records, despite the fact that the dispositive issue on summary judgment is whether the payment was from tsinah's bank account. the only argument zzz makes for this is:
"Here, it is evident that the discoverys ought by Defendant related to Plaintiffs records has no bearing on the matters at issue int his action and Defendant is solely seeking to conduct such discovery to annoy, embarrass, or oppress Plaintiff."
lmfao! you're the one making it an issue! wtf, why even bother filing this nonsense if you can't even make a colorable argument?
this is just like when tsinah's cc statements got put on the docket. now the same shit is going to happen with this.
tsinah, why are you letting this retard rep you? i seriously hope you're not oking or directing this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47612200) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 8:56 PM Author: pearly church
LMFAO!
exhibits are
Exhibit A
Exhibit "A"
Exhibit "B"
this is nearly as good as the bates stamp shit. holy fuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47612223) |
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Date: April 27th, 2024 12:08 PM Author: umber milk double fault
I thought this was flame. It's not.
TSINAH, why are you being represented by a lawyer who hasn't learned the alphabet yet?
And once again: It is so easy to lampoon the biglaw culture of pointless perfection, but when you look at shitlaw you can see why. The merits make ZZZ look bad, but these silly, sloppy mistakes make him look even worse.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47613120) |
Date: April 29th, 2024 12:59 AM Author: Vigorous institution
I should have bumped this sooner. Watch party in the morning?
Edit: It looks like the hearing is now at 8:45am with a different judge. There is no link to the WebEx on the docket, but if you google the name of the judge, there is a WebEx link. I think I'm going to try to click on that link in the morning and see if I can join the hearing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47617052) |
Date: April 29th, 2024 9:16 AM Author: pearly church
HOLY SHIT WE'RE IN!
discover counsel is in the room. i believe zzz called in on a number before, so i think that phone number is him.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47617493) |
Date: April 29th, 2024 9:34 AM Author: umber milk double fault
You need to answer or object but you can't do both!!!
This hearing is going to give me PTSD
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47617572) |
Date: April 29th, 2024 10:05 AM Author: umber milk double fault
Discover waived their objections by being LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE.
Honestly, that might be a fatal fuck up. It's going to be cheaper to pay nuisance change than to actually comply with the discovery requests.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47617718) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:40 AM Author: pearly church
cr. this is literally "THE WEB."
just spam a hundreds of shitpapers and discovery objections, write them in a way that's completely incomprehensible, etc. eventually the defendant will have to decide whether it's worth so many hours even figuring out what the case *IS* let alone defending it versus just paying them to go away. most will pay for it to go away. especially if you accidentally fuck up a deadline (possibly because you relied on plaintiff's informal agreement) and risk getting embarrassed by having to pay attorney's fees.
o! the majesty of law!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47617891) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:38 AM Author: umber milk double fault
Barring SS digging up an email that the discovery deadline was extended, Discover is now stuck complying with TSINAH/ZZZ's preposterously broad discovery demands, which are so extensive it's cheaper to pay them off than to actually do it. They're also on the hook for some fees (the court suggested $1,000ish IIRC) because if they were really just late this entire hearing was pointless.
If SS *can* dig up an email that discovery was extended, then ZZZ's stringer seriously misled the court about the state of play here-- but not really intentionally, just because he showed up not knowing anything about the case.
Both did a pretty shitty job. This hearing turned into hinging entirely on when the discovery deadline is and neither lawyer knew.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47617885) |
Date: April 29th, 2024 11:55 AM Author: pearly church
just looked at discover's response. so they filed their discovery in 5/9/2023, on 3/8/2024 zzz said the link to their discovery didn't work and gave them 1 day to cure as the deadline ended on 3/9/2024?
"Yet, an email received that same day at 2:58p.m. EST is the first occasion on which the undersigned's office had been made aware of any technological issues with accessing the document production in relation to the ShareFile link — seemingly due to the fact that the link was not opened after being served 10 months prior."
ONE WEIRD TRICK -- don't open discovery file until the day before the deadline so that the link times out, then claim discovery is inadequate!
lmfao! o! glorious shitlitigation! there has to be an exception for this. mein gott.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47618117) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: pearly church
what a bunch of horse shit
also, why didn't they even get to whether zzz must produce the BoA shit or whether discovery can go after that? i guess because this hearing was noticed before that it will be dealt with later. they really do need to consolidate the hearings. i think that if ss can prove that the debit from TSINAH's bank account to discover was from TSINAH she can get her MSJ? i figured that would be a part of this hearing.
my god, the web of shitlaw is amazing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47618195) |
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Date: April 29th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: umber milk double fault
I can kind of diagnose the dysfunction having now dialed into a few of these and observing the hearings before TSINAH shit.
These designated hearing dates exist so anybody can put a quick ten minute matter before the judge and she stops things if they go beyond ten minutes-- if you need more than that, then you need to schedule a hearing with the court that's not these "quick matters" sessions.
BUT she also constantly says she's low on hearing time, you need to book that out months in advance.
BUT ALSO ALSO, she gets mad-- apparently at the FL Supreme CourTTT's orders-- if a case persists for too long, which it inevitably will if you have to resolve shit like this at a hearing and it takes months to get on her calendar. We already saw that a bit, she wanted to schedule them for trial even though neither side was into it.
So shitlawyers just go do the designated hearing date thing and hope they somehow get through in ten minutes. If they don't, then some shit doesn't get decided on.
LMAO @ shitlaw.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5516373&forum_id=2...id#47618287) |
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