Bros, if you're put on PIP can you simply ask to be fired?
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Date: April 20th, 2024 9:19 AM Author: 180 coral mother den
They're retarded. The entire team's numbers are public for everyone to see. Nobody is hitting targets, so I'm guessing everyone must be secretly on a pip. Their goals are unrealistic for the type of product we're selling, we can't fucking sell it to that many people, and competition is fierce.
I think they might be using this just to see if they can squeeze more out of us, but I will use it to get out.
It's funny how everyone hears PIP and immediately thinks you're a loser. The real loser here is the company. They don't sell because the product is shit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47597012) |
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Date: April 19th, 2024 5:50 PM Author: Startled Olive Degenerate
Ime it's impossible to be fired if u become great friends w people who matter
One time I came into work stinking drunk and threw up in the reception and it was laughed off and joked about for years
Another employee one time came in late and was fast tracked out
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47596139) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2024 8:01 AM Author: 180 coral mother den
Lmao, so this is all about *your* personal experience?
Take this thread as an example and pretend it's a workplace environment. Check all the positive comments with helpful advice and then check your own. You're wishing someone a violent death, you're MAF and you're not contributing in any way.
What does that tell you? Basically, you're exactly what you're criticizing and this thread struck a nerve. There are many other reasons people can be pipped, favoritism and getting a new CRO with new targets that are pretty much impossible to achieve are some examples. If I had to make a guess, it would be that the entire leadership changed recently and they are making changes in teams. Whatever that means for them. I'm also not an ass kisser and I will never be, so I'm happy to move on.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47601080)
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Date: April 22nd, 2024 8:45 AM Author: Lilac heaven
What i see is a bunch of jews vomparing notes on how to shamelessly exploit shitty laws.
I respect your right to game the system, but you should know its dishonorable kikery. If youre ok with that then more power to you.
Personally i hope they fire you and you get nothing. If you dont like your job, quit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47601117) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2024 9:06 AM Author: 180 coral mother den
Why aren't you more MAF at the guy at the bottom of the thread who purposely got himself piped to collect 30k from Amazon? I haven't done that. If the decision was made despite work that's comparable to other employees, I'd rather collect money than quit and get fucked.
It sounds like you're MAF no matter what. Are you in HR and get fucked constantly by Veronica type employees? You seem to be the only fuckhead who got triggered by this thread.
In case you don't know the Veronica types: https://www.instagram.com/p/C3GIVKbJ8vn
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47601153) |
Date: April 20th, 2024 10:45 AM Author: Cracking institution
don't quit on a PIP unless you find a new job because you'll lose out on various benefits after they fire you. 95%+ of PIPs are meant to create a paper trail before firing you to minimize legal risk to the company.
if you're a bitch or desperately need the money work hard at the PIP while working even harder to find something new.
if you don't really give a shit just keep doing what you're doing until you get severance.
if you want to fight it and buy yourself time, fight the PIP and maybe work with an employment shitlawyer. disclose all disabilities. start taking time off for migraines or back pain if you're willing to lie (remember, the company has no problem lying to you). don't sign any PIP paperwork. fight the claims in the PIP. start with a certified letter to HR responding to the PIP with the following:
"This letter is in response to the document/email/etc. submitted to me on <date>. It contains severe factual inaccuracies, to the point of constituting professional negligence. Unless specifically advised to do so by my attorney, I will not sign it because of those discrepancies between that record and the truth. Please resolve this matter promptly.
However, I agree to perform all reasonable duties requested of me, in accordance with the existing job description, commitments made by me to the team or within the company, and as requested in the document provided, insofar as they can they can be accomplished. My insistence on correcting the record does not indicate a refusal to perform requested work."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47597182) |
Date: April 20th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: brilliant soul-stirring dilemma regret
This would be idiotic
1. You won't get severance if you resign preemptively
2. If you quit without a job lined up, people will assume you were effectively fired for performance anyway. It's always easier to find a new job while you still have a job
3. Your employer wouldn't mention a PIP in future reference calls anyway. Your reason for leaving will be a voluntary resignation in either case.
4. You'd miss out on any chance of getting off the PIP, however tiny
Quitting early makes no sense. Better to look for a new job like crazy while you still have a job
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47597223) |
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Date: April 20th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: 180 coral mother den
By the way, are you an employement lolyer?
This is the backstory: they axed some guy to send a message, we got a new CFO and he needs to bump company numbers in a short time. So they said the axed guy was not peforming to standards and it was a threat, it was shared in a public channel. I figured these guys are clueless enough to fabricate stuff about how folks are doing.
So, I wrote up this letter laying out how my game is stronger than this one dude they just bumped up. If I hadn't done that, I might be the next one getting axed for no reason at all besides getting used as an example. I have no performance issues. What other options did I have?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47597342)
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Date: April 20th, 2024 12:32 PM Author: 180 coral mother den
180
Did you major in CS or did you self teach?
Why did you want to get Pipd from Amazon? Did you have to take a job with much lower salary?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47597469) |
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Date: April 20th, 2024 3:17 PM Author: mewling contagious psychic
CS major
Amazon sucks
I make like 300k now which is fine
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519504&forum_id=2#47597864) |
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