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When did tech optimism fully pivot to tech dystopianism?
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Date: April 24th, 2024 12:17 PM Author: Lilac faggot firefighter twinkling uncleanness Strong arguments can be made that mechanized trench warfare, then the atom bomb, were points of no return.
But I think it was within the lifespan of AutoAdmit, really, that we passed a pivot point.
Probably introduction of the iPhone.
Its impossible to be optimistic about tech now. It will disfigure humanity in a way that can be called "death". Humans will continue on, but not in any recognizable form. We are alive at the historical moment. |
Date: April 24th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: pea-brained bawdyhouse dog poop As soon as normies started using the internet and Ruined it
The Internet and Technology was Good and Positively Received by the upper 20% of society. Up until The Normies gained access to the internet via Smartphones
It then became Ruined, and is now a Dystopian Fixture that is despised by both normie and human alike, because it has been warped into The Normie's Image, and is therefore Fallen |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: territorial university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606768) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 10:19 AM Author: Buff Greedy Business Firm Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608617) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:56 PM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608989) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:20 PM Author: French orchid incel but they were all of deceived, for another network was made, to control all others, and into this network was poured deviance, pedestrian convenience, and the will-to-false-power to dominate all life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609576) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:25 PM Author: pungent market 🤯🤯🤯 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609607) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 5:08 PM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609745) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:57 AM Author: deep theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611125) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 11:31 AM Author: Disrespectful concupiscible brunch WOW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611163) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:00 PM Author: pungent market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611235) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: curious really tough guy garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611500) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 12:23 PM Author: Blathering Dilemma Is there a single “tech optimist” that didn’t register as a living abortion to anyone normal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606766) |
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Date: April 24th, 2024 12:25 PM Author: garnet school cafeteria 2012 introduction of iPhone was it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47606774) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 9:12 AM Author: pungent market *Reflects on this thread and the proven (gorgeously) insightful OP of Narnian sheepdog descent* *Reflects on the parallels with The Abolition of Man* *Feels the overwhelming urge to type “FTGE” on a computer, preferably an internet-connected one* |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 11:59 AM Author: Disrespectful concupiscible brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608793) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:35 PM Author: pungent market dont run post-christian “world” cs lewis sees thru u (tp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608838) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:51 PM Author: Disrespectful concupiscible brunch butlerian jihad: deus vult or there and back again, again: RETVRN to the shire |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:13 PM Author: pungent market So you’re saying that my recent preoccupation with blonde-haired Zendaya circa Dune 2 + lifelong preoccupation with heroic mice (whether of the Redwallian, Narnian, or Tolkienian variety) was actually my golden retriever psyche urgently trying to tell me something?
*opens checkbook* |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:51 PM Author: pea-brained bawdyhouse dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608973) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:15 PM Author: pungent market *AD 1420 Brian Jacques it, tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609555) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 11:53 AM Author: mildly autistic idea he suggested low iq thought (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608780) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: crawly elite love of her life Key date: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/17/obama-iran-twitter
The national security state started working with Twitter. |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:54 PM Author: Big-titted pit brethren it flipped on a dime when people convinced themselves trump got elected because of social media disinfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608984) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:57 PM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin once we started seeing the results of the monstrosity we created (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47608996) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:00 PM Author: Cocky exhilarant forum when companies started censoring internet comments on news articles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609018) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:04 PM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin i think the biggest thing is the hyperfocus on efficiency and optimization.
before tech companies focused on making good products. now they focus on optimizing monetization. it's like how video games turned into gacha games. the goal is to squeeze as much money out of the customer as possible, not create the most useful or entertaining product. |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: mildly autistic idea he suggested yup that was definitely when
you should write a "medium" article on this amazing insight, you retarded faggot |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 5:17 PM Author: Boyish outnumbered state gay wizard there was an inflection point somewhat early in the 10's when online search results started getting crappier. more censored, more restricted to a smaller circle of 'approved' sites, fewer surprising or 'accidental' results (like research papers that universities/institutes forgot to paywall or password-protect), etc.
prior to that point, 'tech' was something which felt in actual practice like a tool that you could pick up and use. after that, it became clear that it was more like a service which could be throttled, degraded, or denied to you. |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: Transparent multi-billionaire When the nominally democratic State started compiling unified records of "social credit" (cutting against the grain of fundamentally democratic notions of parrhesia) and weaponizing it for strictly partisan and political purposes against its perceived enemies, who as citizens, cannot be its enemies without losing its moral authority over the polity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47609775) |
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Date: April 25th, 2024 5:27 PM Author: stirring halford In modern terms, swipe apps. Tinder certainly did not cause the downfall of Western society but it was the final nail in the coffin. The whole society has been completely degenerate ever since.
If you're interested in a more historical but still modern perspective, Blueprint for Armageddon is Dan Carlin's best work and he talks a lot about how WWI was the first time entire societies went to war and were able to withstand the kind of punishment and horror that was exponential compared to what the world had never seen before. |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 9:26 AM Author: Lilac faggot firefighter twinkling uncleanness i think of tinder and swipe apps as streamlined facebook, or even myspace.
the idea behind ms/fb is that your avatar, your online profile, is YOU in a real way. Your existence pixilized, for consumption by strangers.
Swipe apps just streamlined the strangers' ability to instantly judge you WOULD/WOULD NOT.
So now, not only have you reduced your entire life to a profile, it is further reduced to a binary decision: LIVE, BREED, BE WELCOMED, BE HOT, BE LOVED vs. DIE LOSER PIECE OF SHIT
About one second is spent on the decision, and it is made by thousands and thousands of strangers.
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Date: April 26th, 2024 9:35 AM Author: Blathering Dilemma You suck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610884) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 9:37 AM Author: pungent market !!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610887) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:29 AM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611039) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:39 AM Author: Disrespectful concupiscible brunch unholy union of “hotornot” and social media’s 2d simulacrum of a human’s existence, painted over irl until suffocation of organic life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611063) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:43 AM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin match.com had to buy and skinsuit okcupid to make sure that the tinderification of dating had no opposition. it's absolutely demonic.
over 50% of couples now meet online. primarily from a fuckapp where you made a decision in .2 seconds based solely on a picture. |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:00 AM Author: hateful aphrodisiac macaca At some point people realized Tech doesn’t actually make anything better. Things are actually harder now than it used to be. When my grandmother died 25 years ago, it took a couple days to go the bank, call the city, call the cable company, etc., and close everything out. My dad died a few months ago and it took weeks fighting with Filipinos and Indians to close out his Amazon, Internet, etc. (and it’s still not right). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47610956) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:21 AM Author: Blathering Dilemma Yes this was due to “tech” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611011) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin apparently frontier has now eliminated all non-chat customer service.
people dismissing this is "well it's a low cost carrier" haven't been paying attending the the trends. as you point out, even ordinary consumer services are going down this route. pretty soon everything will go through an AI chatbot and you'll be *thrilled* to finally get some ESL pakistani on the chat. |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:49 AM Author: Impressive Generalized Bond Native if you tried to say this in VC circles you will get labeled a "doomer regulationist" or something along those lines. e.g. stuff like this:
https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/1780409874356306143
where someone cherry picks a singular statistic that doesn't look *as bad* (and it's still been trending up the past decade!) as the other countless "wtf happene in 2012!" charts and mocks any attempt at arguing the free market does not always guide society to an optimal outcome. |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Blathering Dilemma Ah
Yes
The “free market” |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin what a fucking faggot. the cherry picking shows he knows *exactly* what he's doing too.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/451-500/db464-fig3.png
people 15-19 don't realize how fucked the sceenification of the world is. when you're going to in-person school to socialize and hanging with your friends gaming or whatever at night it doesn't seem so bad. probably similar to how most of us grew up. it's not until after college and most people aren't being compelled to socialize irl that it becomes clear how demonic it is.
gee, i wonder why he didn't include 15-24 or 25-44 in his analysis?! |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:08 PM Author: Impressive Generalized Bond Native I think there will be a pretty big split in the coming years between the Thiel-type conservatives and, well, most everyone else. now that the tide has turned on woke nonesense they're back to emphasizing their core "eat your free markets and enjoy Growth like the Lord Rand Prophesied. America is the Best Economy in the World and Europe is Poor, thus you are Happier, Goy" philosophy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611259) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 2:23 PM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin i agree. especially considering the disconnect between the ALMIGHTY NUMBERS not aligning with the real economy.
it's funny that at the beginning of biden's campaign the message was "the economy is better than ever goy, what are you talking about?" of course that message didn't resonate well with zoomers and millenials that are struggling and so depressed because they see little hope in things changing that they're killing themselves at unprecedented rates. but the best i've seen them come up with is "uh, well, sure there's still a lot of work to do... but we're gonna do it!"
it's anyone's guess how long the "we're walking on it" messaging will work when there is no gameplan, let alone significant steps taken. i suppose that's why they're doubling down on orange man bad since they have no accomplishments to tout. and hey, it might work for some time, they've been going with the "don't worry goy, hollowing out american industry and QOL is a good thing" for decades now and it seems like most people are only *starting* to wake up. |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 11:06 AM Author: Lilac faggot firefighter twinkling uncleanness im old enough to remember the 80s, when "computers" and space shuttles and such still made the future seem amazing. I remember going to FutureWorld at the Magic Kingdom and looking at the rockety architecture and thinking "when Im an adult I will live in a place like that". I remember the character Mallorie on "Family Ties" dancing around celebrating "Its 1984!". I remember the see-through Swatch watches and everyone felt they were so futuristic and cool. Clear watches!
Maybe it was the mist of childhood, but there still really was tech utopianism.
I dont remember that from the 90s, although coming online in the late 90s was titillating and we all searched for boobs.
But generally the 90s didnt feel very future-focused and the vibe was kind of post apocalyptic at Lollapalooza etc. People dressed tribal and aborigene, not futurist. Tattoos and combat boots |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 11:16 AM Author: Snowy supple office turdskin i remember reading the parts in ender's game about how demosthenes and locke's debates and everyone having free and open access to information, and being like "wow, this is going to be what it's like on the internet!"
of course i thought that in reality people would be too smart to be manipulated when all information is freely and instantly available. whoops! |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: pungent market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611242) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 11:59 AM Author: pungent market THIS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611233) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 1:28 PM Author: Lilac faggot firefighter twinkling uncleanness synth music, stainless steel deloreans, neon colored sunglasses, the concorde, rocky beating drago, the future's so bright i gotta wear my shades
earth was in the rear view mirror and we were airborne.... |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 11:40 AM Author: deep theater slowly, then all at once (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611183) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 12:02 PM Author: pungent market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611241) |
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Date: April 26th, 2024 2:58 PM Author: charcoal embarrassed to the bone library knife any sort of societal optimism hasn't been justified for at least 2000 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521085&forum_id=2#47611559) |