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This interpretation of 401k match language would make DBG very proud (pic)

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Smart!
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Frozen philosopher-king
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I don't see any other interpretation
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cr. OP is retarded for poasting this
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Fantasy-prone outnumbered puppy
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With a 5 year vesting schedule
laughsome laser beams boltzmann
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How much is their HR team freaking out right now? I'd thi...
bright filthy resort
  04/24/24
the hr team? not at all the innumerate and/or illiterate sh...
Olive Bearded Parlour
  04/24/24
I think its at best a scriveners error and at worse fraud. ...
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concupiscible chestnut windowlicker
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Does a typical CBA have an integration clause and mutual dra...
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One weird trick.
Balding Cuck Yarmulke
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Why would you need a labor attorney? 99.9% of companies ...
bright filthy resort
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What difference does it make what industry standard terms ar...
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it's not the indemnity section of a purchase agreement revie...
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It's a CBA. It was negotiated by the union, not just impose...
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How dumb are you, bro? The sentence only has one reasonable ...
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lmao
Olive Bearded Parlour
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i can't read this in a way that makes the company's version ...
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employee contribution - $79.30 the "first 6%" of ...
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Bateful principal's office
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See below. Your math renders the entire formula moot. ...
bright filthy resort
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Yeah - if we're pretending to be a law board - there's no lo...
bright filthy resort
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It's not at all ambiguous. It clearly means 3% of the amount...
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Then why did they not write 3% instead of saying 50% of 6%?
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What difference does it make? Contractual language isn't re...
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Because your reading of it relies on the contract being draf...
bright filthy resort
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and then one day, for no reason at all
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Lmao “And be grateful you get that much!”
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lol
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, after a 15 percent gratuity deduction.
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Fantasy-prone outnumbered puppy
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"First" 6% is nonsensical; it's probably language ...
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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:04 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone outnumbered puppy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL7ixUpW8AANjEb?format=jpg&name=large

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607905)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:05 PM
Author: Startling sinister telephone

Smart!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607907)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:07 PM
Author: brilliant angry pozpig church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607908)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:09 PM
Author: Violet Stead

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607911)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Lake Market

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607912)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Boyish Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607913)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Frozen philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607920)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:14 PM
Author: 180 magical personal credit line travel guidebook

I don't see any other interpretation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607929)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:57 PM
Author: Mind-boggling scourge upon the earth site

cr. OP is retarded for poasting this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607970)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:36 PM
Author: Lemon rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609654)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 9:15 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone outnumbered puppy



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:02 PM
Author: laughsome laser beams boltzmann

With a 5 year vesting schedule

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607978)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:04 PM
Author: bright filthy resort

How much is their HR team freaking out right now?

I'd think plausibly they facing a lawsuit where they probably owe 3% of everyone's wages for a few years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607988)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: Olive Bearded Parlour

the hr team? not at all

the innumerate and/or illiterate shitlawyer and union reps who negotiated a “match” of 3% of the first 6% for their clients, otoh…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607997)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: bright filthy resort

I think its at best a scriveners error and at worse fraud.

I really doubt a judge is going to go "Yeah it was totally chill for the company to mimic standard language but twist it to only pay people 1/20th what a reasonable worker would assume based on industry standards without fully disclosing the diffference."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608002)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:19 PM
Author: concupiscible chestnut windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608025)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:29 PM
Author: 180 magical personal credit line travel guidebook

Does a typical CBA have an integration clause and mutual drafting clause? If so, why would a judge do anything but look at what it says?

Do we have a labor lawyer in the house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608060)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:33 PM
Author: Balding Cuck Yarmulke

One weird trick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608080)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:44 PM
Author: bright filthy resort

Why would you need a labor attorney?

99.9% of companies offer something similar to a 50% match of an employees contributions up to 6% of their salary. They're clearly using an industry term and there was an error in drafting.

If this was truly their intent, and the company's attorney wasn't a full blown moron, then the next line has to say "By way of example, if an an employee makes $100,000 and contributes $6,000 to their 401k, employer will contribute $180.00 to the 401k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608108)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:09 PM
Author: 180 magical personal credit line travel guidebook

What difference does it make what industry standard terms are? Parties aren't required to used industry standard terms. The language quoted by the Redditor is perfectly intelligible, and it doesn't provide for a match capped based on compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608170)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:20 AM
Author: Maroon stage

it's not the indemnity section of a purchase agreement reviewed separately by 30 different lawyers. it doesn't benefit society to have employees look out for gotcha language in 99% boilerplate 401k agreements that they sign during orientation

ski resort sneaks in "we have the right to fuck your wife at any time" in 6 font in the waiver

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608252)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:34 AM
Author: 180 magical personal credit line travel guidebook

It's a CBA. It was negotiated by the union, not just imposed on the employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608268)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: appetizing wrinkle set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608066)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: Lemon rigpig

How dumb are you, bro? The sentence only has one reasonable meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609658)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 10:05 PM
Author: Olive Bearded Parlour

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47607991)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:38 PM
Author: naked jewess temple

i can't read this in a way that makes the company's version true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608200)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: Puce aromatic native foreskin

employee contribution - $79.30

the "first 6%" of that contribution - $4.76

company matches 50% of that 6% - $2.38

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608214)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:57 PM
Author: Bateful principal's office



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:00 AM
Author: bright filthy resort

See below.

Your math renders the entire formula moot.

It'd be like if you wrote a contract saying, "Buyer will be able to achieve an earnout equal to 1/2 times 1/4 divided by 6 times 11 multiplied by the 2026 revenue."

Why would you write it so stupidly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608230)



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Date: April 24th, 2024 11:55 PM
Author: bright filthy resort

Yeah - if we're pretending to be a law board - there's no logical reason to phrase it that they'll match 50% of the first 6% of your contributions - it's a pretty nonsensical structure. Why not just say they'll match the first 3% of the actual money you put into your account?

There's no logical reason to have the 50% of the 6% if they both refer to contributions...

It's clearly ambiguous and you look to what this phrasing means within the industry and its obvious that the intent is that they'll match 50% of your contributions up to 6% of your salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608220)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:10 AM
Author: 180 magical personal credit line travel guidebook

It's not at all ambiguous. It clearly means 3% of the amount contributed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608244)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: bright filthy resort

Then why did they not write 3% instead of saying 50% of 6%?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608842)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:40 PM
Author: 180 magical personal credit line travel guidebook

What difference does it make? Contractual language isn't rendered ambiguous simply on account of there being a clearer and more succinct way to express the same meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608846)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 8:54 PM
Author: bright filthy resort

Because your reading of it relies on the contract being drafted with multiple fraction as a math equation, which probably 0.00001% of all contracts in history have been drafted with such stupidity, and my interpretation aligns it with probably 30-60% of all similar 401k match programs.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610189)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: useless chad
Subject: and then one day, for no reason at all

because good kikesmanship requires plausibly deniable deceit

normies will read that as 3% of your compensation (or 50% of your contribution), not 3% "on the first 6% of [your] contributions.", i.e., 3% of 0.06*paycheck. In other words, it's tricky wording to masquerade the order of operations. Half of 6% applied to your (((contribution))), rather than half of 6% applied to your compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608871)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: Transparent Hilarious Regret

Lmao

“And be grateful you get that much!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608856)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 1:48 PM
Author: hateful beady-eyed bbw liquid oxygen

hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47608959)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:04 PM
Author: bat shit crazy smoky whorehouse cuckoldry

“Enjoy!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609039)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:13 PM
Author: concupiscible chestnut windowlicker



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Date: April 25th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Unholy orchestra pit

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609055)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 4:39 PM
Author: Lemon rigpig

, after a 15 percent gratuity deduction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47609665)



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Date: April 25th, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone outnumbered puppy



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Date: April 25th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: light out-of-control office mad cow disease

"First" 6% is nonsensical; it's probably language that was redrafted multiple times and they fucked up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521232&forum_id=2#47610118)