also we tried to slow walk into cuba just like vietnam with the bay of pigs. to avoid it being seen as an invasion we need to create a series of events that make it look like the other side is the aggressor and we're defending the people of the country. see e.g. ukraine.

the cuban revolution happened too quickly and it was too popular amongst the cubans. we tried to get in but we flubbed it. and we didn't have a sizeable population of cubans who wanted westernize still in cuba, so we couldn't pretend we were invading for humanitarian reasons. so we settled on "invading" them through intrigue and economics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609645)

The explanations offered ITT are really dumb, regardless of whether that was the explanation offered to the public at the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609662)

The one world government we have today was built on the results of things like Vietnam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609683)

a strong, rich, healthy west would never have agreed to this new setup otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609701)

https://iaindavis.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/G3P-Chart-White-Background.png

your worldview needs fundamental updating, imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609718)

this is a law forum and a lot of us have experience in and for these orgs. the elites are far less capable than you think. the whole system is fraud and lies, but it's not this intricate, because it doesn't have to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609729)

enjoy the view from normieland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609731)

Vietnam was not anywhere as liked in an ideological fraternal sense or found as vital to Soviet interests as Cuba, the sympathetic "socialist republic" tick in the Monroe Doctrine's hide, was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47610596)

"In 1941, Hồ Chí Minh returned to Vietnam to lead the Việt Minh independence movement. The Japanese occupation of Indochina that year, the first step toward an invasion of the rest of Southeast Asia, created an opportunity for patriotic Vietnamese...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609647)

"Since we are in a war, even though an undeclared war, why do we impose, or allow to be imposed, so many incredible handicaps on our men who are trying to fight it? Our bombers are regularly required to fly dangerous missions with only a small fraction of the effective bomb load they could carry. To enter North Vietnam they must fly a specified route, well known to the enemy, which makes the operation so dangerous that the pilots call this route "slaughter alley." In bombing the supply route to the Viet Cong, known as the Ho chi Minh trail, through Laos, our bombers are required to confine their attacks to targets within 204 feet from the trail itself. So the Communists, when they see American planes coming, merely pull aside until they are 205 feet from the road, and figuratively thumb their noses at the helpless American pilots....

Vietnam is almost exactly half way around the world from Washington, D.C. It would be impossible for the United States, in fighting a war, to have longer or more difficult or more costly supply lines for its troops.... While the length, size, and complexity of the supply lines will make it easy for Communist traitors at a hundred points along those lines subtly to sabotage and misdirect and confuse the equipment our boys need in the field; and to do so a great deal more extensively than in the worst of our similar experiences so far. These disadvantages to ours elves, and advantages to the Communists, would be almost overwhelming. Is this why Vietnam has been picked for the crucial battleground?

If this Administration or any Administration really and truly did want to fight the Communists and save some other nation or people, why not run the beasts out of Cuba instead of Vietnam? Cuba was really our protege nation, and for a much longer period of time than the present gang in Washington have pretended to hold South Vietnam in that esteem. Cuba is right at our doorstep, and a Communist regime there is infinitely more damaging and more dangerous to ourselves than one in South Vietnam, on the other side of the world. For a war in and over Cuba, and even if you give consideration to some nonsense about the Soviets coming into it, most of the advantages, as to supply lines and style of fighting, would be with us instead of with our enemies. Can you or anybody else name one reason why we should not be fighting the Communists, if at all, in Cuba instead of in Vietnam? Or do the powers which control Washington want us to be fighting only where we are at the greatest possible disadvantage, and where our inability to win can be made to seem plausible?"

There's a lot of other good points made strongly suggesting that the war was being fought for ulterior motives:

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+John+Birch+Society+on+Vietnam.+(Worth+Repeating).-a084313098

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609605)

This was obviously WRONG. Thanks cock of michael obama!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609613)

EPAH why didn't the USA let Vietnam vote on reunification in the 1950s? It's a rhetorical question. I know your answer will be a an angry jumbled up mess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609682)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Geneva_Conference

"It was decided that Vietnam would be divided at the 17th parallel until 1956 when democratic elections would be held under international supervision and auspices. All parties involved agreed to this (Ho Chi Minh had strong support in the north, which was more populous than the south, and was thus confident that he would win an election), except for the U.S., which, in the spirit of the Cold War, feared seeing communism spreading in a domino effect throughout Asia as written in a National Intelligence Estimate dated 3 August 1954.[7]"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47609691)

In any event, both were stupid ideas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47611630)

1. A shitload of those people are black.

2. We had just ditched the Philippines because US sugar and hemp producers didn't like the competition. Now we're gonna marry Cuba?

Fuck that shithold. We did the best we could. We contained it and made it non-issue. What Latin American country is saying "we want to be like Cuba?" Lmao @ sacrificing one American life for that bullshit when we can do it diplomatically?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5521491&forum_id=2#47611836)