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“Homeownership” is retarded unless you want to stay in house forever

Just do pay shit loads of interest for 7 years, sell and the...
Supple Lodge Messiness
  04/29/24
youre building equity bro
startling soul-stirring orchestra pit stock car
  04/29/24
First 7 years are massively weighted towards interest paymen...
Supple Lodge Messiness
  04/29/24
House prices do and will go up forever. Borrowing to buy a ...
floppy bisexual halford
  04/29/24
This is laughably wrong. House prices generally track inflat...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
Home prices double every 5-7 years
floppy bisexual halford
  04/29/24
I have a friend who bought his house in 1992 for $250,000. T...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
Wrong. How could a gut renovation be less than half of the ...
floppy bisexual halford
  04/29/24
32 years is a long time. He told me they spent over $150k on...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
I own 3 properties. I wasn't a retard so I bought ones that ...
Yapping slippery crackhouse
  04/29/24
I find this impossible to believe. Every house is a nightmar...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
I'm being pretty misleading. They're all apartments in a Tie...
Yapping slippery crackhouse
  04/29/24
Here is where you can be very wrong. My wife and I bought a ...
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  04/29/24
...
Spectacular brilliant people who are hurt shitlib
  04/29/24
sweet
Heady pontificating corner
  04/29/24
I think you meant SWeet
laughsome obsidian theater stage
  04/30/24
I rent out three of my former primary residences. Extremely ...
Yapping slippery crackhouse
  04/29/24
Owning real property and participating in the game of Amerik...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
What you're supposed to do is model all of these expenses in...
Yapping slippery crackhouse
  04/29/24
I can kind of pay my bills Insurance is a complete runaway ...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
I have you beat on childcare. I'm at over $100k / year. (10...
Yapping slippery crackhouse
  04/29/24
It's true, you should never sellcuck. If you need a bigger ...
Shivering unholy public bath selfie
  04/29/24
I’ve come to accept that there is no rational option i...
maroon french chef
  04/29/24
...
glittery school cafeteria striped hyena
  04/29/24
Just raise a family in an apartment complex full of governme...
Mustard Titillating Property
  04/29/24
this. homeownership is retarded, but not as retarded as rent...
Abusive big-titted cruise ship
  04/29/24
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Aqua Kitty
  04/29/24
here in Brussels, I can't wait to return to my homeland and ...
Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting
  04/29/24
Ligonier Valley?
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
yessir, 6 acres to build my falling water house near Linn R...
Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting
  04/29/24
Wow. 180. I’d like to live over there too.
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
let's make it happen- Frank Lloyd Wright inspired Americana
Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting
  04/29/24
I’d just prefer a simple ranch style house with a base...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
ranch style house-- u should build in Arizona https://fran...
Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting
  04/29/24
I don’t want some artsy fartsy house. I want a house w...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
if u can dream it, it can happen-- only in America
Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting
  04/29/24
My dream is to just go back in time and be an offshore rough...
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
hey, Jack Kerouac
Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting
  04/29/24
your dream is for your children to never have been born? yo...
brass big water buffalo sanctuary
  04/30/24
Ok but will buying a house get me in house in the first plac...
Jet-lagged copper senate liquid oxygen
  04/29/24
if you bought a million dollar home 5 years ago it would be ...
hot indian lodge
  04/29/24
Houses around here have crashed 20-30% in the last year.
Salmon frisky theater sex offender
  04/29/24
wow Houston, TX, must be a real shithole then
french black immigrant
  04/29/24
If you put 1 million in wingstop stock you’d have 4 mi...
Spruce Adventurous Meetinghouse Love Of Her Life
  04/29/24
I bought in very late 2021 at what was near peak of the mark...
maroon french chef
  04/29/24
People railing against home ownership are fucking idiots who...
Tripping dashing foreskin pervert
  04/29/24
(Prole who bought house with 50k down payment)
Supple Lodge Messiness
  04/29/24
Rates were 3% why put more down?
Tripping dashing foreskin pervert
  04/29/24
The house isn't the problem. It's the wife who wants you to ...
coiffed thriller haunted graveyard
  04/29/24
Pro tip: in that case, you're the problem
Diverse tanning salon giraffe
  04/30/24
"we need to pay $8,000 to convert a small part of our u...
coiffed thriller haunted graveyard
  04/30/24
I paid $6000 this week to have landscaping and plumbing work...
brass big water buffalo sanctuary
  04/30/24
These retards also don’t look at taxes. You get an exe...
Embarrassed to the bone nursing home
  04/29/24
My interest rate is under 3%. Money for free.
Aphrodisiac house-broken university private investor
  04/29/24
"owning a house only makes sense if you want to live in...
Beady-eyed Affirmative Action Hunting Ground
  04/30/24
Absolutely devastating for housemos
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  04/30/24


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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: Supple Lodge Messiness

Just do pay shit loads of interest for 7 years, sell and then do it again at another house lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619708)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: startling soul-stirring orchestra pit stock car

youre building equity bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619712)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: Supple Lodge Messiness

First 7 years are massively weighted towards interest payments. You build almost no equity unless house price only go up forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619714)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:38 PM
Author: floppy bisexual halford

House prices do and will go up forever. Borrowing to buy a house is the single best thing most people can do to build wealth. Buy as much as you can, always.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619742)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:59 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

This is laughably wrong. House prices generally track inflation. Plenty of years where the house is flat and inflation is 2%.

Homes are just sinks for taxes, insurance, maintenance, HOAs, worthless utilities, never ending bullshit, break ins, squatters, noisy neighbors, nosy neighbors, illegal neighbors. It’s just a neverending river of shit these single family homes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619815)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:02 PM
Author: floppy bisexual halford

Home prices double every 5-7 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619825)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

I have a friend who bought his house in 1992 for $250,000. Today he could sell for $1,000,000. BUT, the entire house has been gutted to the studs and completely redone at a cost of like $300k. Plus all the other crap they put into it. Conservatively, they have like $700k in it. So their appreciation after 32 years works out to less than $10k per year, and it’s a lot less after you factor for inflation and opportunity cost.

Houses don’t appreciate. They just cost you a fortune. They literally empty your pockets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619836)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:09 PM
Author: floppy bisexual halford

Wrong. How could a gut renovation be less than half of the amount invested in the house after purchase? Obviously couldn't. How would you even know any of this? Do better with your shitty flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619842)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

32 years is a long time. He told me they spent over $150k on an addition. Gut Reno came later at a cost of $300k. That’s $450k for the two big Renos plus $250k purchase which sums to $700k basis (and I think they did things like sprinklers, various upgrades, new Siding, new driveway, new windows, landscaping too).

$1m - $700k = $300k

After accounting for inflation it’s probably less than $200k. Over 32 years. It’s completely trivial appreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619867)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: Yapping slippery crackhouse

I own 3 properties. I wasn't a retard so I bought ones that didn't require any work.

Between all three, I've spent maybe $10k total over ~10+ years, at most. Just replaced some carpets, snaked a few drains, and replaces a few appliances.

You may not know this, but you're allowed to inspect a property before you buy it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619848)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:11 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

I find this impossible to believe. Every house is a nightmare and a ticking time bomb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619850)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: Yapping slippery crackhouse

I'm being pretty misleading. They're all apartments in a Tier 1 city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619857)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:17 PM
Author: laughsome obsidian theater stage

Here is where you can be very wrong. My wife and I bought a place in 2018 for $498k at 3.5% interest. We put $200k down. We still owe $255000 on the mortgage, but we put the house on the market this weekend (it listed Thursday) for $975,000 and we got over 25 offers with the highest being $1,050,000.

After commissions, costs and paying off the mortgage, we will walk with $753,000. Which means, we profited $553,000 in less than 5.5 years: $100,000 a year. We're moving to SC and our newly built home is coming in right at $722,000. So, we'll have no mortgage. Now, obviously this isn't going to happen for everyone, but it did just happen for us. And that's why you buy houses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620037)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:49 PM
Author: Spectacular brilliant people who are hurt shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620140)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:26 PM
Author: Heady pontificating corner

sweet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620229)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: laughsome obsidian theater stage

I think you meant SWeet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47622398)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:30 PM
Author: Yapping slippery crackhouse

I rent out three of my former primary residences. Extremely good financial move (in my case at least).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619715)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

Owning real property and participating in the game of Amerikkka is flat out highway robbery.

Taxes + Interest + HOA + Insurance + cost of upkeep on my house is about $45k

Insurance on the cars is now up to $3k (and I ostensibly own them) + another $1k in various fees for maintenance, registration, inspection

That’s $4,000 gone each month just for the right to “own” property in America

Utilities + food + transport costs like fuel, etc doesn’t come close to $4k

Childcare comes close

If I sold everything and just moved to Asia I could live on so much less

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619735)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:35 PM
Author: Yapping slippery crackhouse

What you're supposed to do is model all of these expenses in advance and only purchase a home you can comfortably afford.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619738)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:39 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

I can kind of pay my bills

Insurance is a complete runaway freight train right now. 4 years ago insurance for 2 cars was like $1200/yr. Maybe as little as $1,000. Now 3x.

My first homeowners policy was like $1800, now $6000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619744)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:36 PM
Author: Yapping slippery crackhouse

I have you beat on childcare. I'm at over $100k / year. (100% cannot afford it -- unlike my house)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619740)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:42 PM
Author: Shivering unholy public bath selfie

It's true, you should never sellcuck. If you need a bigger house, just remodel the old one, or keep it and rent it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619752)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: maroon french chef

I’ve come to accept that there is no rational option in the US, everything is set up to ensure your Ruin, especially if you are a Loser. I wish I was born in France and could just live on the dole and waste away at some cafe. That would be 1000% better than trying to “maek it” in the US just so you don’t have to live in a neighborhood where you’ll be raped and killed by URMs. The US is honestly the dumbest place in the world and a terrible mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619761)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: glittery school cafeteria striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619769)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: Mustard Titillating Property

Just raise a family in an apartment complex full of government mandated low income residents bro

Just have your lease not get renewed at the top of the market so you are forced to move bro

Just have your rent go up 10%+ per year bro

Just never be allowed to have pets bro

Just be forced to live with the shittiest appliances in existence and never able to renovate or change anything forever bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619767)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: Abusive big-titted cruise ship

this. homeownership is retarded, but not as retarded as renting forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619822)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:26 PM
Author: Aqua Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619904)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting

here in Brussels, I can't wait to return to my homeland and buy a plat in rural PA and play my music as loud as I like without any neighbors around to complain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619835)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

Ligonier Valley?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619853)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting

yessir, 6 acres to build my falling water house near Linn Run State Park

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619864)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

Wow. 180.

I’d like to live over there too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619874)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:18 PM
Author: Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting

let's make it happen- Frank Lloyd Wright inspired Americana

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619878)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:19 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

I’d just prefer a simple ranch style house with a basement and a wood burning stove and a flat spot outside for a garden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619881)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting

ranch style house-- u should build in Arizona

https://franklloydwright.org/taliesin-west/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619885)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:24 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

I don’t want some artsy fartsy house. I want a house with a porch and a rocker and my shotgun by my side. Maybe a glass of iced tea.

No dogs. No cats. Just me and the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619899)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:25 PM
Author: Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting

if u can dream it, it can happen-- only in America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619900)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:28 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

My dream is to just go back in time and be an offshore roughneck or whatever. Live in a van.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619912)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:29 PM
Author: Mind-boggling base famous landscape painting

hey, Jack Kerouac

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619914)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 3:13 PM
Author: brass big water buffalo sanctuary

your dream is for your children to never have been born? you seem like a really really great guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621931)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:18 PM
Author: Jet-lagged copper senate liquid oxygen

Ok but will buying a house get me in house in the first place? Have sent out hundreds of apps (I’m a litigator) but no bites so far. Houses around here run about 1.5-2 million to start but it could be a good investment to finally get out of big law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619879)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:20 PM
Author: hot indian lodge

if you bought a million dollar home 5 years ago it would be $1.5m today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619886)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:25 PM
Author: Salmon frisky theater sex offender

Houses around here have crashed 20-30% in the last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619902)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:04 PM
Author: french black immigrant

wow Houston, TX, must be a real shithole then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619997)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:47 PM
Author: Spruce Adventurous Meetinghouse Love Of Her Life

If you put 1 million in wingstop stock you’d have 4 million today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619940)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 8:33 PM
Author: maroon french chef

I bought in very late 2021 at what was near peak of the market. 3.25% rate. I already have 100k in added “equity” according to estimates. If I didn’t buy this house I would still be renting in NYC for like 4000k per month. I don’t know if there was ever a good option for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47619919)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:48 PM
Author: Tripping dashing foreskin pervert

People railing against home ownership are fucking idiots who:

(i) Are too dumb to ever account for the fact that a home is not just an investment, its consumption. So in your calculations, you have to back out what you would have paid for rent

(ii) Don't realize that a home is an amazing tool against inflation, which is why myself and many others have benefited BIGLY.

I put in about $50,000 on my house in 2019, I've saved about $70,000 in rent over those years vs my mortgage, and if I sold my house I'd net $320,000.

So all in I basically made like a 7,000% return in 5 years?

The math is obviously different with current prices and interest rates (renting vs buying is more attractive for sure), but there's still a lot of risk in renting...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620139)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: Supple Lodge Messiness

(Prole who bought house with 50k down payment)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620155)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 9:55 PM
Author: Tripping dashing foreskin pervert

Rates were 3% why put more down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620160)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:32 PM
Author: coiffed thriller haunted graveyard

The house isn't the problem. It's the wife who wants you to work super hard so she can pay other men to do little projects at your house in perpetuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620250)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:22 PM
Author: Diverse tanning salon giraffe

Pro tip: in that case, you're the problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621548)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:45 PM
Author: coiffed thriller haunted graveyard

"we need to pay $8,000 to convert a small part of our unfinished basement into a costco pantry."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621654)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 3:28 PM
Author: brass big water buffalo sanctuary

I paid $6000 this week to have landscaping and plumbing work done. all of it except for taking out a tree I probably could have done myself if I had more time and energy and wasn't a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47622009)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:40 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone nursing home

These retards also don’t look at taxes. You get an exemption for $500K in capital gains, which equates to $1MM of earned income. You should move anytime you can do this obviously (subject to being able to purchase a decent home for an acceptable price).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620296)



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Date: April 29th, 2024 10:55 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac house-broken university private investor

My interest rate is under 3%. Money for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47620330)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:42 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Affirmative Action Hunting Ground

"owning a house only makes sense if you want to live in that house"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621078)



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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Diverse tanning salon giraffe

Absolutely devastating for housemos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522879&forum_id=2#47621553)