DEI was never about profitability (Karlstack)
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Date: April 30th, 2024 10:04 AM Author: buck-toothed gas station liquid oxygen
In short, Brunet wants to be liked, to seem trendy, to seem modern, to seem young. Brunet's overt displays of anti-wokeness serve not as evidence of visionary leadership but as a spectacle of an autistic man hungry for approval.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47620945)
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Date: April 30th, 2024 12:01 PM Author: carnelian idea he suggested library
Saying “DEI is about profitability” is like claiming the Civil War was about slavery.
Both sides know it’s not true, but by making the claim, you are forcing the other side to do the impossible: prove a negative.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621244) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:03 PM Author: Honey-headed menage reading party
I got bored of that thread, but I’m on a long flight so I’ll go back to prove you wrong.
Yes, quotes from those speeches (with links to the full text so that we can see whether wage-preservation was the principal argument) will be useful.
Would it be useful for me to quote SC’s declaration of secession where they proclaimed that they were seceding to preserve the institution of slavery, or are you already familiar with that document?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621480) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:10 PM Author: saffron ceo
we're in agreement that the civil war was about a state's right to have legal slavery. we're in disagreement about the motives of the union pushing abolition.
sure, if you can prove me wrong in that thread i'll pull some speeches about absolutists regarding it being about economics.
note: of course there were some radical abolitionists who did have humanitarian motivations. but the fact they were labeled "radical" may clue a careful reader in on whether their views were in the majority.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621500) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: saffron ceo
actually "carpetbaggers and scallywags" is another southern "lost cause" myth and actually the south wasn't mad about getting looted following the war but were just YSSFM about antiracism.
just like how today everyone who claims that importing migrants to work for poverty wages isn't about humanitarianism is also just a racist pretending to care about the migrants and fellow citizens.
in this house no person is illegal, conturd. least of all my gardener, who i pay a princely sum of $3/hr to tend my plantation. i mean, azaleas. not stop distracting bort humanitarian epah who is flying from hawaii (island where whites liberated the natives who just so happen to live in poverty serving whites) to california (mexican territory liberated by whites where natives just so happen to live in poverty serving whites).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621546) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 3:14 PM Author: saffron ceo
said i'd pull the speeches when you proved me wrong, and so far i didn't see a retort to
"report contains x", "report doesn't contain x", here's a quote from the report saying x." responding that "i don't believe the conclusions of the report are justified" is different than "that's not what the report says." although i'll pull the speeches later if you just admit you were wrong and glib :)
i meant "confront it head on." you're a smart guy, did you really not understand that from the context, or are you pointing out an obvious typo as a devastating pwn?
i thought i clearly stated my point from the beginning. but i'll clarify:
"the push for abolition was primarily for economic, and not humanitarian reasons. this is demonstrated by the fact that former slaves frequently lived in worse materially conditions after slavery and we continued to utilize slave labor abroad."
if the union was opposed to slavery for moral reasons why would they continue to utilize slave labor and allow blacks to live under worse material conditions after emancipation? the unavoidable conclusion is that they didn't care about blacks being mistreated, but were concerned about their own conditions, and how they would worse off if they had to compete with slaves. hence *why* the debate principally centered around expansion into new territories rather than abolishing it at home. and yeah, having more free state representatives mattered -- because they wanted more free states, i.e. places where citizens could compete on equal footing. the didn't give a fuck about what happened to blacks after they were freed. nor did the give a fuck about people enslaved abroad. they were in it for their own benefit, not out of humanitarianism or altruism.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621933) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 6:12 PM Author: saffron ceo
i'm heading out. i'll respond to your cass shit in the cass thread tomorrow.
please don't misunderstand -- the laborers are always exploited and get fucked. the fight was between the modern capital system of the north (entrepreneurs and industrialists) versus the aristocratic system of the south (large plantation owners). although the north definitely had more populist fervor because free labor enables more class mobility than an entrenched aristocracy.
i definitely think the union was more on the side of populist white labor than the south. i mean, otherwise why wouldn't the south just emancipate to begin with? but i don't think union, which was powered by cheap laborer in deplorable conditions, cared *that* much about the working class either.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47622611) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: carnelian idea he suggested library
> We could reduce it further by saying “it was because they fired on Fort Sumter,”
No, actually, we couldn’t. Your example derived from mine, not the other way around. I guess logic wasn’t your strong suit.
Thinking there is some monolithic “reason” behind the civil war is midwit thinking at its finest. Historians like to pull the “politicians said ‘X’ and newspapers said ‘Y’” logic to support their claims. However, in the case of the civil war, slavery is easily ruled out. Not only is it ridiculous to think that hundreds of thousands of men just happened to perfectly align between states to fight each other over something that had little to no impact on them, we also know the Civil War didn’t end slavery in the US, slave states fought in the union, and slavery was a dying enterprise anyways.
I always like to bring up the Iraq War because we all lived through it. By your (implied) standards: the war in Iraq was 100% about weapons of mass destruction, everyone who fought in that war was fighting over WMDs, and implying there could be any other reasons for the war or for Americans enlisting is blasphemy and retard level logic.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47622175) |
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Date: April 30th, 2024 2:21 PM Author: saffron ceo
if opposition to slavery was based on humanitarian concerns we would not have continued (and, in fact, continue) to utilize slave labor outside our borders. the only reason we eventually abolished it within our borders is because other americans got maf that they couldn't compete with slave labor.
this is also demonstrated by how former slaves frequently lived under far worst material conditions post slavery. which you downplay as "haha well people aren't monolithic and they just wanted separate but equal." despite the fact that studies across the globe post-slavery universally concluded far worse materially conditions.
of course, this is the point in the debate where you clutch your pearls over me "conflating chattel slavery with living conditions." because that handy trick allows you to retain the moral high ground while continuing to oppress (in some wars worse) an underclass of people. but before you do, let me be clear that, of course, chattel slavery is uniquely evil and abhorrent.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621770) |
Date: April 30th, 2024 12:16 PM Author: gay hairraiser forum knife
hilariously enough there are probably a lot of retarded gen x and boomer whites reading this "article" and nodding along in agreement
this really is prime normiecon bait
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47621279) |
Date: April 30th, 2024 7:32 PM Author: deep point
>The loudest cheerleader for this now-debunked McKinsey talking point is the billionaire Mark Cuban, of Shark Tank and Dallas Mavericks fame.
Whoa are you telling me that a Jewish billionaire would just *lie* about something that harms white people?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523084&forum_id=2...id#47622883) |
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