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Why do some smart people flame out of law?
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Date: May 1st, 2024 6:55 AM Author: Cyan Infuriating Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624208) |
Date: May 1st, 2024 6:59 AM Author: Charismatic Point because it is a fake life-sucking "profession" full of morons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624210) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:00 AM Author: histrionic plum boltzmann most people that are smart enough to do high level work eventually realize how useless and stupid it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624212) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:01 AM Author: 180 site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624213) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:09 AM Author: Lascivious Fluffy Selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624220) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:13 AM Author: Cyan Infuriating Fortuitous Meteor explain.
also, how do you account for the remaining smart people who are really into legal practice? |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:18 AM Author: histrionic plum boltzmann imagine if you got paid a lot of money for completing long division problems by hand, but you had to do it 12 hours a day and be at the beck and call of your superiors, and whenever you completed an assigninment you put it in a paper shredder.
remaining people = golden handcuffs and/or capable of deluding themselves the work is important and valuable |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:56 AM Author: Lascivious Fluffy Selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624550) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:01 PM Author: Bistre Wonderful Field Lettuce your just a bitter middling in-house counsel who lacks the balls to LITIGATE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47626336) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:30 AM Author: Sinister Swollen Macaca Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624662) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:01 AM Author: Bonkers Theatre Cumskin Being successful at law is not about being smart. It is about being extremely obedient and willing to spend hours on drudgery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624214) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:02 PM Author: Bistre Wonderful Field Lettuce no it’s about being smart as well as those things, at least in high level lit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47626338) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:12 AM Author: Cruel-hearted demanding multi-billionaire abode It’s about work ethic and desire more than smarts. Smarts just gets you into the game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624221) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:18 AM Author: harsh kitty knife I’m burned out and I’m not that smart, just reasonably intelligent . I don’t work in big law or shit law. (Some people think everything not big law is shit law. I just mean I’m not doing ID, workers comp, family law, PI, or other litigation areas where they are quintessentially shit law.) Niche practice, am a partner, everyone I work with is cool. So by private practice standards I have it really good. Why am I burned out.
1 everything in this practice is personal. I can’t put it away. A loss feels personal. A win feels personal. You trade on your reputation, and if you lose, your reputation gets worse usually. So that’s tiring.
2 every day I spend doing law stuff feels very much like a waste. I have just traded away my precious time on earth
3 it’s exhausting being responsible for other people’s problems
1 is more specific to litigation. 2 seems like typical midlife crisis stuff. 3 is law generally. I think burnout is probably most common in litigators because as you age up you get tired of dealing with dumb psychopathic fucks and dumb judges and having your life dictated by a litigation calendar. A lot of lawyers lose patience with litigation. I’m personally trying to reduce my litigation practice, the problem is that it is quite profitable and hard to turn down the money. |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:45 AM Author: cerebral indian lodge the most frustrating thing to me about law is that doing "a good job" is generally measured by how the client feels about it, rather than some objective standard. and it's really easy to get overwhelmed with work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624382) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:47 AM Author: hairraiser black woman https://youtu.be/MPoRadg9pck?si=0Z7TR7u4nRL8Bljt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624387) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:10 AM Author: misunderstood primrose nursing home Meh, smart people flame out of everything. If you do anything enough times it becomes routine and unexciting. I have a neurosurgeon friend who talks about brain surgery like a plumber would talk about changing a hose bib.
I think lawyers specifically are smart people who tend to be directionless and the profession attracts a lot of people who “fell into” doing law. You can’t putz into neurosurgery, you have to be at least a little passionate about it and you have to work harder to get it. Lawyers also don’t tend to have the natural talent for other high paying professions and risk-averse personalities. So there’s a lot of latent frustration. They are smart but there isn’t really a better fit if they still want all of those material things, which lawyers value highly.
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:13 AM Author: histrionic plum boltzmann everything is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624587) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:13 AM Author: histrionic plum boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624586) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:24 AM Author: misunderstood primrose nursing home A little perspective helps too. A couple years of work experience before law school helps a lot.
I’m transitioning from corporate America to hanging up my own shingle. It’s amazing how much lawyers can make while working from home, with very small capital requirements, high levels of autonomy, and not having to deal with politics or retarded middle managers and layers of organization. Most people, even smart people, would kill for this. |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:28 AM Author: Cyan Infuriating Fortuitous Meteor what about the stress of running cases and managing clients on your own? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624654) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:30 AM Author: bearded stag film Date: May 1st, 2024 10:24 AM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (I fucking hate libs)
I’m transitioning |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:30 AM Author: histrionic plum boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624661) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:30 AM Author: histrionic plum boltzmann that's my goal too brother.
whenever anyone considering law school asks me i give them that advice, and especially to actually work in a law firm to see what it's like. i actually like being a lawyer when it comes down to the nuts and bolts. it's the mindless perfectionism and useless was of "prestigious" practice areas that annoys me. |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:53 PM Author: Exciting location What general area are you targeting for your home practice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47626458) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:28 AM Author: Lascivious Fluffy Selfie 180 brother. What's the plan to get clients? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47627749) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 1:02 PM Author: Boyish Magical Senate Partner second paragraph is cr. i would also add that most lawyers are not smart but mistakenly believe they are (for a variety of reasons), which is bound to lead to frustration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47625088) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:34 AM Author: Sinister Swollen Macaca Property good to see we still have 20 year olds who post here
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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:23 AM Author: Stirring jap range I'm taking the LSAT. Passing the bar is a license to print money. Done listening to the haters and losers trying to keep me from my dreams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624857) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:36 AM Author: Cyan Infuriating Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523542&forum_id=2...id#47624888) |
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Date: May 1st, 2024 6:55 PM Author: aromatic library Because 95% of law isn't about being smart its about being competent and its about being efficient.
A smart person is often either bored by an assignment or would just re-write the precedent to make it better for some obscure factor no one gives a shit about it.
We've all had junior associates who absolutely love researching and writing a memo on some obscure topic but can't get you a fucking form officer's certificate on deadline. |
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