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Ukraine admits it will lose the Donbas - link
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:06 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king https://x.com/shashj/status/1786094345663168910 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628470) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:32 AM Author: Flushed pisswyrm round eye This war is completely unjustified unless odessa is russian. And the only way u can get to odessa now is by going south through Kiev. And yet Russia can't even take back kupiansk and Izyum that it lost in 3 days Last year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630508) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:32 AM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant this guy gets it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630509) |
Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:07 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king https://x.com/shashj/status/1786094698018258983
Admits they will negotiate as well. Huge change. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:21 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe "only in the second half of 2025 at the earliest"
it's amazing and sad that so many people are going to die and so many resources are going to be wasted because they have to wait on the results of the us election. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:28 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king I think he means Russia won't stop until it has the Donbas and maybe Kharkiv. Why would it? It's advancing and has formally annexed the two Donbas provinces into Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628562) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:37 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe but this isn't like a video game where you actually have to occupy a territory to annex. if victory there is inevitable why throw away lives defending it? so that the survivors who didn't physically participate in the defense can claim they "didn't give it up without a fight?"
why can't negotiations at least be occurring now? why do we have to wait for mid 2025 for them to even start? |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:53 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king I don't think it's politically viable for Zelensky to just pack up and leave the Donbas areas they have now. And Russia can't quit trying to take areas of the Donbas they have formally annexed and which - unlike Kherson west of the Dnieper - they can take fairly easily. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628687) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:56 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe none of that explains why they can't at least be at the negotiating table right now. i only reason i can think of 2025 being his prediction is because that's when the results of the 2024 election will occur. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628707) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:04 PM Author: Azure thriller pit Nobody cares that men are being killed or disfigured by the 1000's. Actually, that's not true, some people are happy about it, the rest appear indifferent. Once the Left gets behind a war, there is no meaningful anti-war movement to be had. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628733) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:07 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant lol you are deranged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628742) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:12 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe "that's not true, some people are happy about it"
lmfao at you barging in here immediately to prove him right |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:14 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant “The Left in the US is so powerful they cause major landwars in Europe”
(a really serious and respectable person) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:15 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe irrelevant to the fact that you've been gleefully jerking off over combat gore for two years now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628774) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:16 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant seeing invading mongrels get shrapnel to their faces will never get old (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628778) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:19 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe and when it's all said and done you will say "we" didn't give it up without a fight, despite having not physically participated in the defense at all, and completely ambivalent to the thousands of lives lost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628791) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:20 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant keep telling yourself silly things if it makes you feel better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628796) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:23 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe it brings me no joy that useful idiots like you enthusiastically support death and destruction to enrich globalists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628801) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:25 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant go ahead and explain how russia taking over Ukraine helps humanity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628805) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:29 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe i've already explained how supporting a resolution that expediates the inevitable result to avoid further destruction =/= supporting the inevitable result. but i'm not surprised that someone who views the conflict from a fictional lord of the rings perspective can't grasp that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628815) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:34 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant ok so you neither know what Ukrainians want or think nor do you think they deserve to have an opinion
cool, russiacuck |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:38 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe (guy who enthusiastically supports a jewish head of state suspending elections so that ukranians cannot meaningfully demonstrate what they want and think) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628840) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:50 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628868) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:06 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant nobody ever said they wouldn’t negotiate. what he’s saying is that it will take another 18 months to get into a good position to be able to negotiate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628737) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:30 PM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe the good position being the fall of other ukraine cities, which is what he predicted? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628817) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 5:29 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant link to any Ukrainian cities falling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629140) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:10 PM Author: diverse native national security agency This tweet crafted by a person you have chosen to periodically expose you to favorable information certainly reflects well on you and I appreciate that you have shared it with us for that purpose! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628486) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:22 PM Author: Contagious gold feces As long as they don’t come close to Kyiv it’s worth it to continue the war hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628537) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:30 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king I've said since last summer the war will end with an ambiguous result with Russia having the Donbas but not Kiev or Odessa. Kharkiv is a question mark, but I'm not sure it makes any sense for Ukraine to keep a city 40 kilometers from the Russian border. Better to evacuate the loyal population west of the Dnieper and then fight for the buildings, making sure Russia just gets a pile of ruins like Mariupol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628574) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:38 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Why would Russia not turn Kiev into a pile of rubble in response? This won’t end with Ukraine a sovereign state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628604) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:00 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king For one thing, Europe has 200 billion Euros in frozen Russian funds. Think of how much money that is for a country with Russia's GDP. That's a huge amount of leverage Europe has over Russia- they can say "make peace and we'll send you back 5% of your money for each year you keep the peace."
OR they can say "attack Kiev and we write a 200 billion euro check to Zelensky." |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:10 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Hahaha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628756) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 5:26 PM Author: Internet-worthy theater stage To be fair,
Wow, one weird trick, so apparently Europe has had the ability to financially pressure Russia into stopping this madness the whole time... and yet for some reason they haven't actually used that incredible leverage to date even though we're now two and a half years into a massive and bloody European land war ("But they totally will in the future, trust me, I know these things")...?
Oh well, I have to admit that reasoning doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but than again you're a brilliant Pumo and I'm a retard who is famously wrong about everything, so I'm sure you're correct here and I just don't "get" it!
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:43 AM Author: Dull duck-like theatre giraffe you're just too dumb to understand how imaginary fiat tokens are so important (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630544) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 1:08 PM Author: Internet-worthy theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47631498) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:38 PM Author: Boyish shivering stage LOL go back to reddit tranny pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629887) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:51 PM Author: Contagious gold feces wow so if they stop fight now Russia will just take the Donbas and leave Kyiv alone?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628678) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:08 PM Author: Fragrant cobalt immigrant you are a sick person hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628745) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:38 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Me? For posting what Ukrainian generals are now admitting?
I support Ukraine but try to live in the real world. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:29 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Yeah, they are losing all of it. And everyone in Lviv is going to die. All of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628568) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:32 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Donbas + maybe Kharkiv. That's it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628577) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:37 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Hahaha. Putin won’t survive if he leaves Odessa to the US. They will be land locked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628596) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:47 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Kiev would be easier than Odessa, imo. With Kiev they could build up forces in Belarus for an attack. With Odessa they have to basically cross the Mississippi river and keep supply lines for an army active over it.
That's why the retreat from Kherson was so huge. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:48 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Cool story, bro. Everyone in that city is going to die. Every last single Hahol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628657) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:44 PM Author: Boyish shivering stage Why would Russia stop there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628631) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:47 PM Author: floppy wrinkle No reason and it wont. They all die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628655) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:50 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Look forward to seeing you eat your words when the peace deal is signed next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628667) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:49 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Difficulty of the task combined with the West providing much more active defense - Macron told the French Parliament he would send French troops to protect Kiev and Odessa.
Kiev would actually be easier since it has no huge river protecting it, but Odessa has a lot of Russian sympathizers while people in Kiev despise Russia. What's the point in capturing a city just to have the people wage a guerilla war until you leave? |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:11 PM Author: floppy wrinkle LJL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47628758) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:42 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king These are casualties Russia took trying to take a non-descript tree line outside a non-descript village in the Donbas, which Ukraine expected to lose eventually:
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1785368169109942634
How do you think the treelines outside of Kiev or Odessa will be defended? |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 5:05 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Those are Hahol corpses to the last turd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629060) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 5:19 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king There's a red armband on the soldier at :13. Later in the video as well, though I'm not gonna watch the whole thing to note them all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629106) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:36 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Russian soldiers don’t wear red arm bands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629878) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:07 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king That soldier has a red arm band. Are you suggesting Ukrainian soldiers wear red arm bands? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629962) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:34 PM Author: floppy wrinkle Russian soldiers don’t wear arm bands period. Unlike the Hahols they have fully modern C3I. Very early in the war they wore arm bands but not for well over a year. Thank China for providing modern C3I to socialist forces. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630027) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:37 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Just stop. This has been geolocated in the pics below as the main Russian line at Stepove. Ukraine was completely on the defensive during the time these soldiers died. Don't you think it's reasonable to think that the vast majority of dead bodies on the main Russian line are Russians? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630035) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:40 PM Author: floppy wrinkle LJL. Literal blue arm bands everywhere and a gloating Russian filming it but somehow it’s a Ukrainian victory. Ok hoss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630041) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:51 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Then give me a timestamp of ONE blue arm band. Just one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630059) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:44 PM Author: Boyish shivering stage There are literally blue and yellow arm bands throughout that video lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629910) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:14 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Then give me a time on the video. I'm sure you must have several since they are "throughout that video."
Looks like another red armband at 1:24 and this was geolocated to a spot where Russia took heavy casualties:
https://twitter.com/GermanObserver1/status/1785374662983123191
I don't rule out some Ukrainian troops being there, but it's a known Russian slaughter location.
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 2:26 AM Author: Adventurous Nursing Home Regret i can't see armbands of either side. is the thing at 1:24 a red armband, or a blob of bloodstain on the uniform of a busted up and rotten corpse? is 1:02 the remains of a yellow uke one, or someone's lunch wrapper?
having a hard time with the uniforms, but the boots don't look russian. and the guy filming it says they are dead ukrainians.
the "geolocation" is one guy from twitter drawing a box on a map and saying "it was here" |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:23 AM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/europe/russian-war-blogger-dead-ukraine-avdiivka-intl/index.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630487) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:43 AM Author: Adventurous Nursing Home Regret no it is almost certainly not avdiivka (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630694) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:26 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Here's checkmate- this IS the main Russian line in Stepove:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMbmFymWQAAlkPV?format=jpg&name=large
You lose. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:45 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Article without paywall.
https://archive.ph/c957s |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 5:10 PM Author: Arousing rough-skinned multi-billionaire it had already lost the donbas before russia decided to throw half a million fighting aged males into the meat grinder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629078) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:37 PM Author: Cerebral saffron associate plaza I called it in summer 2022 and never doubted myself for one second. EAT SHIT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629881) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:00 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Wow, you called Russia, a country of 150 million, being able to take the pro-Russian eastern provinces of a country of 35 million?
What a military genius you are! |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:31 PM Author: Cerebral saffron associate plaza (Robert McNamara) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630021) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:57 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king That would be an apt comparison if the United States bordered Vietnam like Russia borders the Donbas and if Vietnam weren't covered with jungle, making it way harder to conquer than the Donbas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630069) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 12:01 AM Author: Cerebral saffron associate plaza If you want to claim you're some kinda genius who knew the war was lost from day one, why didn't you say anything about all the dead Ukrainians who died for nothing? I didn't see your pumo clown ass say SHIT until today. Faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630081) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:22 AM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Losing the Donbas is not losing the war, shithead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630485) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:27 AM Author: floppy wrinkle Russia has slaughtered 1 million plus Hahols. It will kill them all. That's losing the war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630495) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 1:10 PM Author: Cerebral saffron associate plaza Then stop complaining about it, fairy. Why do you care if Russia takes it? Are you some kind of weird bitch who cries about things for no reason? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47631508) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:43 PM Author: Boyish shivering stage OP is a reddit tranny. "Ukraine is too weak to onto Donbass and Kharkov, so Russia will take those. But then Russia will feel sorry for Ukraine, whose army is completely shot up and unable to resist, and just stop attacking Ukraine because ???? This is beyond Hitler in the bunker type delusional. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:58 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king This is the Dnieper River, you fucking moron:
If you think really hard, even you might be able to imagine some of the difficulties of crossing that river and resupplying the army that crosses the river with the entire Ukrainian war effort focused on preventing you from doing it.
The difficulties in doing that were so great that Russia was forced to pull back tens of thousands of troops it had sent across the intact Kherson bridge. And yet you think they are just going to be able to cross that river with no intact bridge and retain their bridgehead.
Fucking moron. |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:04 PM Author: Boyish shivering stage Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:58 PM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................
This is the Dnieper River, you fucking moron:
If you think really hard, even you might be able to imagine some of the difficulties of crossing that river and resupplying the army that crosses the river with the entire Ukrainian war effort focused on preventing you from doing it.
The difficulties in doing that were so great that Russia was forced to pull back tens of thousands of troops it had sent across the intact Kherson bridge. And yet you think they are just going to be able to cross that river with no intact bridge and retain their bridgehead.
Fucking moron.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629938) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:07 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Ah yes, the moron's recourse- the old copy and paste of a post with no substantive rebuttal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47629959) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:11 PM Author: Boyish shivering stage "armies can't cross rivers" is your entire argument. Go back to Reddit tranny pumo |
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:16 PM Author: Obsidian bat-shit-crazy philosopher-king Seriously moron, how low does your IQ have to be to come up with something like "tranny pumo"? You are presumably an actual motherfucking ADULT and that's the best you can come up with?
I would have been pleased with myself if I had come up with that in the third grade but I kind of outgrew it after that.
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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:40 PM Author: Cerebral saffron associate plaza The western part of Ukraine has NEGATIVE VALUE. It's just factory farms producing wheat for Africa. Export revenues are piss in the wind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630042) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 1:03 AM Author: Puce field No shit. None of this is really news. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630156) |
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Date: May 3rd, 2024 9:26 AM Author: drunken bull headed shitlib coffee pot Do they ask him at any point why he decided to grow an Amish beard during the war? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5524078&forum_id=2#47630655) |