2. UPenn

3. Georgetown

4. Johns Hopkins

5. Emory

6. Rice

7. WUSTL

8. Carnegie Mellon

9. Tufts

10. Berkeley

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7535907)

berkeley is all frugal asians who never thought to apply outside the state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7536133)

UPenn: Wharton people reject all other ivies

Cornell: People like me rejected other ivies and came here

& Engineers reject all other ivies, except maybe MIT, and only a select group of people apply there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7536635)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7536715)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537927)

Read this interesting report that somehow made it onto the internet:

http://diversity.caltech.edu/dpg_reports/irvine06-04/Data.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537958)

If they didn't think it necessary - or helpful - in trying to get desirable admits as to enroll, they wouldn't offer so many of them what amounts to substantial tuition rakeoffs as an inducement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7538609)

No, actually 100% of the Presidential scholarships are diversity-based. They feel they need to have those to make up for the lack of affirmative action in admissions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7545462)

http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2006/march/features/colleges.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7556108)

I'm sure Hispanic Magazine would consider all the schools that use affirmative action more "welcoming," in any case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7557175)

Obviously, few people get into ALL of the other five, but a number of people at Caltech did get into at least one--most commonly Stanford or MIT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7543864)

But it is seldom, if ever, the case that those matriculating are "100% HYPSM rejects"

http://diversity.caltech.edu/dpg_reports/irvine06-04/Data.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7544619)

Interestingly enough, although you provided a link, the link doesn't say that. It says that out of 30 Axline students (i.e. not the 400-500 total they accept) they got 20% and lost most of the rest to Stanford, MIT and Harvard.

Note that this doesn't necessarily mean ANY of Stanford, MIT, or Harvard individually had any higher yield on those students either. It's three schools. For example, say MIT got 20%, Harvard got 20%, Stanford got 20%, and the last 20% went to "other".

Regardless, your link says nothing about "the overwhelming majority of common admits" at all--to say otherwise is flat-out lying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7545452)

I do not know precisely what fraction of common admits are lost to - say - Stanford, but I can assure you that "the overwhelming majority" of common admits are lost to Harvard. This is particularly striking when one notes that Caltech applicants may be "self-selecting" - with many interested in engineering, where the Harvard program, heretofore, has been relatively narrow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7547406)

I wouldn't be so sure on "the overwhelming majority" of common admits with Harvard. That survey cited only 26 people turning down Caltech for Harvard--granted, since the schools are quite dissimilar, the "overlap" is probably not that high in the first place. Meanwhile, I knew 2 people who turned down Harvard for Caltech living right on my hallway (which was about 20 students total, in other words a sample of just 2% of the student body). The kind of Harvard admit who would have bothered to apply to Caltech in the first place would also inherently be much more interested in a science/engineering school than your average Harvard admit.

The only school I'm sure they lose the majority of common admits to (and even in this case I doubt it's "overwhelming") is MIT, which makes a lot of sense. The overlap in admits is much bigger than for the Ivies given the similarity of the schools, and MIT is a bigger name and on the east coast--interestingly, the number 1 cited reason for choosing MIT over Caltech on that survey you posted was geography.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7547762)

For women, at least, life at Caltech has long seemed rather hellish:

"For their part, Caltech officials say they do not give women an advantage. But statistics from the admissions office seem to tell a slightly different story. While only 22 per cent of the applicants for this year's freshman class were female, women make up 30 per cent of the class. The difference emerges from admissions decisions: 32 per cent of female applicants were invited to enroll, compared with 20 per cent of male applicants...."

http://chronicle.com/che-data/articles.dir/art-44.dir/issue-24.dir/24a00101.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7548090)

At least you're admitting that it's not just some story I've personally made up. Of course, I've also sat on the admissions committee and seen it not happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7549966)

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=291086&page=3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7557213)

Math and science people have disproportionately higher overall SAT scores, since there are nearly twice as many 800-scorers in math as there are in verbal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537226)

Sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537245)

my memory flipped them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537527)

(I know, I know, Caltech is the school you love to hate... flame away!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7543874)

Upenn

Columbia

for Engineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7536992)

others just show illegal eagle that he's a fucking dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537988)

Tufts

WashU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537937)

my friend accepted into Wharton and Cornell, and chose Cornell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7537998)

2) WUSTL, Northwestern, G-town, UVA-level schools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7548327)

Heck look at their alumni:

the DONALD (even with a comb-over he is still successful with money and women)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7548773)

Heck, you might not even need a degree. Look at Bill Gates. A Harvard dropout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7549374)

Other than literally maybe one or two people at Columbia who "wanted to be in NYC," the only ones there who turned down HYP are the 6-generation legacies and children of faculty who face pressure to keep Columbia in the family.

Brown...well, I really have no idea who turns down HYP for Brown, though I'm sure it happens occasionally.

People are more likely to turn down HYP for MIT, Stanford, and specialty programs at lesser schools (such as 7-year BS/MD programs).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7548775)

I wouldn't be surprised to see the number turning down Princeton a lot higher, say, fifty a year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=574224&forum_id=1#7549810)