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omg LOL - Boalt has the same bar passage% as Pepperdine!!!!!!!

"6th" best school in the country. They can't even ...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Boalt's bar passage is not correctly reported. http://dwa...
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  03/26/08
Do you really expect anyone to click on that?
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Is this the first time that a "T6" has had the sam...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Pepperdine had a better pass rate than Stanford at one point...
Crystalline filthy set
  03/26/08
Bullshit. Stop covering for your shitty school, boalt troll.
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
titcr
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
passing the bar on the first time is more important the wors...
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  03/26/08
Yeah, cuz students from good schools don't care about the ba...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
because the bar is easier to pass the smarter you are. edi...
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  03/26/08
Of course, it has nothing to do with that, or how good your ...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
nothing to do with being smart?
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  03/26/08
Except that, other than Dolt, the top schools have excellent...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
They care about the bar, it just isn't as big of a deal if t...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
"it just isn't as big of a deal if they fail it the fir...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
it's not.
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  03/26/08
Right. No one at your firm will lose respect for you if you'...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
A lot of people from TTTs who fail the first time never prac...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Right, because small firms are really picky about passing th...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
dumb?
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
It's really not as big a deal as you think it is. There are...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
It is as bad. Basically that was your first huge test as an ...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
where are you getting this from? what year are you, at what...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
That's because you're insincere.
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
can you answer my initial questions, so i can have some idea...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
Dood, give it up. You either failed the bar and are all defe...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
so i can take it that you don't actually work at a biglaw fi...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
Why be so insincere? Why keep track of those who failed, whi...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Of course he doesn't.
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
do you ever feel foolish for arguing with people on this sit...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
Sorry about your tiny pink repressing something insincerity ...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
You could be right. I haven't made up my mind yet - there a...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
No one ever assumes that anyone from a T14 fails because the...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Keep telling yourself that.
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
LOL Ok hot shot. Good luck in July. Third time's the ch...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Making fun of me for failing the bar? That post doesn't cont...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
"That post doesn't contradict everything else you wrote...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
It isn't as big of a deal. There is little chance a V100 fi...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
They won't fire you immediately, but it has a hugely negativ...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
There's a very good chance they'll be able to lateral. If...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Right, the small firm, which has employed the TTT for $20/ho...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
it's industry standard at large firms to give you a second c...
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  03/26/08
Right, small firms don't fuck around with bar failers. Fail ...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Again - a lot of TTT grads who fail the bar exam will never ...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Wait, are you Russkie?
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Oh dear heavens, you are Russkie aren't you?
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
No. Believe it or not, many people in biglaw or at T14s wil...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
T14. rofl. As long as you're from a T14, they'll just hand y...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
"T14. rofl. As long as you're from a T14, they'll just ...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
"reasoning" lol.
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Try it sometime.
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Of course, only "T14" students who fail the bar ca...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
No, there are a few others who can also reason, you just are...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
Yes sir. Sorry for my affront to your "T14" presti...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
see my post above -- reputation-wise it's really not a big d...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
Oh I see, so you have to fail two times before it hurts your...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
basically. look, until you actually take the bar and get ...
Stimulating nursing home
  03/26/08
A lot of people overestimate how much mental energy partners...
Infuriating space main people
  03/26/08
that happens to be exactly how it goes
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  03/26/08
not really.
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  03/26/08
Whats Hastings? I imagine it plummeted this year after the ...
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  03/26/08
Same as Dolt/Pooperdine.
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
ty dood. what about UIUC? How diid Mandy's peers fare?
ultramarine wonderful associate cruise ship
  03/26/08
Damn, it's only 88% in Chicago (U of Chicago's is 98%.)
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Oh, but this has nothing to do with UIUC being a shittier sc...
Impertinent exhilarant institution
  03/26/08
Why is Davis so much lower (75%)?
Swashbuckling Den Stock Car
  03/26/08


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Date: March 26th, 2008 3:20 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

"6th" best school in the country. They can't even pass the fucking bar.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9532988)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:18 AM
Author: spectacular azure office skinny woman

Boalt's bar passage is not correctly reported.

http://dwarfurl.com/0f07f

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533893)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:19 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

Do you really expect anyone to click on that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533897)





Date: March 26th, 2008 3:27 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Is this the first time that a "T6" has had the same bar pass rate as their state's tier 2?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533019)





Date: March 26th, 2008 3:45 AM
Author: Crystalline filthy set

Pepperdine had a better pass rate than Stanford at one point in the 1990's.

A lot of TTT's have good pass rates b/c they just teach the local bar for 3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533095)





Date: March 26th, 2008 3:47 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Bullshit. Stop covering for your shitty school, boalt troll.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533104)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:03 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533853)





Date: March 26th, 2008 10:52 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533828)





Date: March 26th, 2008 10:54 AM
Author: gay hot mexican water buffalo

passing the bar on the first time is more important the worse you school is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533831)





Date: March 26th, 2008 10:56 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Yeah, cuz students from good schools don't care about the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533836)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:00 AM
Author: gay hot mexican water buffalo

because the bar is easier to pass the smarter you are.

edit: to respond to your edit, i think TTT students study harder for the bar. additionally the standard TTT curriculum is all pretty blackletter, and this is partly because it's more urgent for TTT grads to pass than for people from real law schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533847)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:02 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Of course, it has nothing to do with that, or how good your school is.

Sheeesh!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533852)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:04 AM
Author: gay hot mexican water buffalo

nothing to do with being smart?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533859)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:05 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Except that, other than Dolt, the top schools have excellent bar passage rates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533862)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:06 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

They care about the bar, it just isn't as big of a deal if they fail it the first time. A lot of them also just assume that they can ace it without much preparation. One out of 11 Yale grads fail the NY bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533864)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:08 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

"it just isn't as big of a deal if they fail it the first time."

Wow. Just wow.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533867)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:11 AM
Author: gay hot mexican water buffalo

it's not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533878)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:12 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Right. No one at your firm will lose respect for you if you're one of the 2% of associates who fail the bar.

Bar schmar. Biglaw is all about models and bottles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533880)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:14 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

A lot of people from TTTs who fail the first time never practice law PERIOD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533884)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:17 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Right, because small firms are really picky about passing the bar. Hypercompetitive biglaw doesn't care about the bar, but small firms do. It's all so obvious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533889)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:21 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533900)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:19 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

It's really not as big a deal as you think it is. There are a few people at my firm who didn't pass the first time, and it's not like we talk about them or look at them differently or anything. It's a tough exam, some people fail, but as long as you pass the second time around one failure is generally just chalked up to one lousy morning/afternoon. After a year or so I don't think anyone even really remembers who needed to retake.

However it does royally suck for the person who failed during those few months before he/she has a chance to redeem him/herself...but even then it's usually not as bad as the failure thinks it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533896)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:21 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

It is as bad. Basically that was your first huge test as an associate, and you were one of a tiny minority who couldn't pass it. The partners are now suspicious. Your coworkers think less of you. Even your family thinks less of you, because the bar has layman acclaim.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533904)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:24 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

where are you getting this from? what year are you, at what kind of a firm?

i certainly don't think less of my coworkers who failed, and none of the associates whom i work with do either. i guess i can't speak for the partners but i've never seen any indication that they care too much either.

and i don't know about your fam but if they'd think less of you for failing the bar then you have some real shitty individuals in your gene pool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533909)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:25 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

That's because you're insincere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533911)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:26 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

can you answer my initial questions, so i can have some idea as to what's your frame of reference?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533914)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:29 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Dood, give it up. You either failed the bar and are all defensive about it, or you're unbelievably insincere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533925)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:31 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

so i can take it that you don't actually work at a biglaw firm, and therefore really don't know what you're talking about?

oh and fwiw it's pretty well documented around here that i passed the first time around...and the fact that everyone on the thread disagrees with your claims should clue you in to the fact that you have no idea how things work IRL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533930)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:33 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Why be so insincere? Why keep track of those who failed, which you admit to doing, lose respect for them (which you did), but not admit it?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533936)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:34 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

Of course he doesn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533937)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:37 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

do you ever feel foolish for arguing with people on this site only to realize later that they are clearly flame and/or completely uninformed?

i'm experiencing this right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533942)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:38 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Sorry about your tiny pink repressing something insincerity bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533949)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:40 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

You could be right. I haven't made up my mind yet - there are some really stupid people here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533954)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:28 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

No one ever assumes that anyone from a T14 fails because they aren't capable of passing. If you come from a LS that is a glorified 3 year barbri course and are one of the 50% who fails, that's another matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533918)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:30 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Keep telling yourself that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533927)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:32 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

LOL

Ok hot shot. Good luck in July. Third time's the charm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533933)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:36 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Making fun of me for failing the bar? That post doesn't contradict everything else you wrote. You can't even keep your argument straight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533939)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:41 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

"That post doesn't contradict everything else you wrote."

huh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533957)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:13 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

It isn't as big of a deal. There is little chance a V100 firm will fire a 1st year associate merely for failing the bar exam on the first try.

It is a huge deal for those from TTT schools in which a significant % of students are unemployed at graduation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533881)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:15 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

They won't fire you immediately, but it has a hugely negative impact on your reputation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533885)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:19 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

There's a very good chance they'll be able to lateral.

If you don't have a job at graduation and don't pass the bar exam the first time there is a significant chance you'll never practice period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533895)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:24 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Right, the small firm, which has employed the TTT for $20/hour throughout law school is suddenly going to fire him because he failed the bar. However, at hyper-competitive biglaw, failing doesn't matter at all..

It's so obvious!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533910)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:30 AM
Author: gay hot mexican water buffalo

it's industry standard at large firms to give you a second chance. these are the law firms, remember, that hire you 9 months in advance of your summer associateship and then pay you $30,000 for writing 'research memos' and getting fat for 10 weeks. they do not fire you for failing the bar once. they do not care. you draw that paycheck until you fail a second time.

small firms, on the other hand, tend not to fuck around with TTT grads who can't manage to pass the bar. many won't hire until you've got the bar membership in hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533929)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:43 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Right, small firms don't fuck around with bar failers. Fail the bar at a small firms and the partner will smack you around Gordon Gecko style and throw you in the gutter. Biglaw though doesn't give a shit. It's all cool and relaxed in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533962)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:49 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

Again - a lot of TTT grads who fail the bar exam will never pass it even if they plow a lot of effort into studying. There is a huge labor pool of fungible TTT grads.

If you fail and you're from a TTT, that means that you're probably incompetent, or lazy, or both.

Virtually no one from a T14 is incapable of passing the bar. If they fail it is because they were overconfident and didn't study much or because they were very ill. Biglaw firms invest a lot of resources in a person before hiring them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533985)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:51 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Wait, are you Russkie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533990)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:56 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Oh dear heavens, you are Russkie aren't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533995)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:57 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

No. Believe it or not, many people in biglaw or at T14s will tell you the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533997)





Date: March 26th, 2008 12:01 PM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

T14. rofl. As long as you're from a T14, they'll just hand you a partnership. They know you're smart, so huge fuckups like failing the bar have no impact on their perception. But only if you have "T14" smarts. lol.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534008)





Date: March 26th, 2008 12:19 PM
Author: Infuriating space main people

"T14. rofl. As long as you're from a T14, they'll just hand you a partnership. "

Nice straw man.

I've already explained the reasoning involved. These aren't firms that just try associates on for size and ditch them after two months if they don't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534051)





Date: March 26th, 2008 12:41 PM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

"reasoning" lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534119)





Date: March 26th, 2008 1:24 PM
Author: Infuriating space main people

Try it sometime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534246)





Date: March 26th, 2008 1:28 PM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Of course, only "T14" students who fail the bar can reason, eh? rofl.

"T14."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534255)





Date: March 26th, 2008 1:38 PM
Author: Infuriating space main people

No, there are a few others who can also reason, you just aren't one of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534293)





Date: March 26th, 2008 1:47 PM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Yes sir. Sorry for my affront to your "T14" prestige. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534310)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:22 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

see my post above -- reputation-wise it's really not a big deal so long as you pass the second time around.

the fact is that it's a tough exam that even smart people occassionally fail. xoxo-types will clown you incessantly, but biglaw attorneys generally will not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533905)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:27 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Oh I see, so you have to fail two times before it hurts your rep. Failing once is nothing, but if you fail twice, that's really really bad.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533917)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:33 AM
Author: Stimulating nursing home

basically.

look, until you actually take the bar and get a job you might want to stop fronting like you have any frame of reference. you're out of your element.

are you even in law school yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533935)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:39 AM
Author: Infuriating space main people

A lot of people overestimate how much mental energy partners and senior associates invest in thinking/caring about first year associates. We're talking about a very busy and self absorbed group here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533950)





Date: March 26th, 2008 12:16 PM
Author: chocolate fluffy corn cake center

that happens to be exactly how it goes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9534044)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:25 AM
Author: gay hot mexican water buffalo

not really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533913)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:14 AM
Author: ultramarine wonderful associate cruise ship

Whats Hastings?

I imagine it plummeted this year after the horrible tragedy they endured last April

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533883)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:18 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Same as Dolt/Pooperdine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533892)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:23 AM
Author: ultramarine wonderful associate cruise ship

ty dood.

what about UIUC? How diid Mandy's peers fare?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533906)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:31 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Damn, it's only 88% in Chicago (U of Chicago's is 98%.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533931)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:47 AM
Author: Impertinent exhilarant institution

Oh, but this has nothing to do with UIUC being a shittier school than Chicago. People at TTTs like Chicago need to pass the bar or they'll lose their job, but people from good schools like UIUC aren't under that pressure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533974)





Date: March 26th, 2008 11:23 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Den Stock Car

Why is Davis so much lower (75%)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=790147&forum_id=2#9533908)