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Cons, did you ever figure out why Mamdani's grocery stores are a bad idea?

what's the consensus?
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
because socialism is an inefficient failure. it only "w...
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
NYC is almost out of rich people
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
not really... but this is he dumbest and least-efficient way...
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
Oh it's just not "efficient" now, lol
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
socialism is always a bad idea for any market good for a var...
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
(Richard Posner)
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
What about all the socialism we give to rich people? DId...
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
Can you make the case for them? Outline the "steelman&q...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Mamdani will get more votes
nude litigator
  07/27/26
The funny thing is that I think a lot of this shit doesn't e...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
More cities will elect mayors like him
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Food will be cheaper
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
how?
Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption
  07/27/26
30%
nude litigator
  07/27/26
...
Nazca Redlines
  07/27/26
Zero profit margins for the retailer
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
I actually agree with what you are saying. I imagine you wou...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Not at all. If you like your grocery store you can keep shop...
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Sure, if the government run stores remain simply a "Pub...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Choice is pretty fucking limited at Whole Foods too. I assum...
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Do you really think so?
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
NSAM has schizophrenia. Please be patient.
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
cr
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
Profit margins for grocery stores are around 2%. These store...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
Police and fire departments operate at a loss, no?
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Police coverage is not an excludable rivalrous good. Selling...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
I'll take that as a yes
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
the private companies selling them the food also will have z...
sol rosenberg
  07/27/26
this is false
sol rosenberg
  07/27/26
Problem: greedy corporations exist that make profit from sel...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
This is America. Food is a luxury good
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
the stores will always be low on food selling at a loss i...
N904PD
  07/27/26
So the problem is too many people will shop there and all th...
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Governments shouldn't try to do stuff that tons of private b...
And what ur doing right now? It's illegal.
  07/27/26
This isnt for poors they already get food stamps. The point ...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
How can they go out of business if Mamdani's stores have no ...
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Even a 5% drop in revenue will drive some groceries out of b...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
loooool! the people who have the funds to shop at Whole F...
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
Profit margins are 1-2%. How is that "being held by yhe...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
Because a Gov't owned grocery store doesn't need to produce ...
...,....,,........
  07/27/26
The profit is 1%-2% of the cost you drooling imbecile. Excep...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
grocery stores make terrible margins and make $$$ off volumn...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
sounds like shitlib logic at its finest!
Trust If Aryan
  07/27/26
to be fur, we shouldnt allow a single digit amount of compan...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
fair enough
Trust If Aryan
  07/27/26
There are thousands of retailers selling food in NYC. Are yo...
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
I assume he was referencing the fact that Sysco and US Foods...
Richard Ames
  07/27/26
Maybe for restaurant food.
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,
  07/27/26
That plus https://i.insider.com/57ebdc8edd08954b368b47d7?wid...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
ty for showing yourself to be a legit retard. Those are not ...
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Anyone?
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
i already did u fag
me mum died in the holly (TT6)
  07/27/26
Cons is this true?
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
Cons?
Jared Baumeister, Esq.
  07/27/26
feels like a worthwhile experiment. worst case, some people...
Darnell
  07/27/26


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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:41 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

what's the consensus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50026989)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

because socialism is an inefficient failure. it only "works" until you run out of rich people to rob to pay for it. we have EBT in NYC- cash grants to the poor to buy groceries work just fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027011)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:47 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

NYC is almost out of rich people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027015)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

not really... but this is he dumbest and least-efficient way to get subsidized food to the poor. it's Soviet-style waste at its finest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027023)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Oh it's just not "efficient" now, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027028)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

socialism is always a bad idea for any market good for a variety of reasons. but you asked why this grocery scam is bad idea and the waste/stupidity behind it is the worst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027040)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:54 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

(Richard Posner)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027049)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

What about all the socialism we give to rich people?

DId we somehow "run out of money" to keep giving rich people tax cuts in 2017 & 2025?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027615)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Can you make the case for them? Outline the "steelman" case for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027041)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:55 PM
Author: nude litigator

Mamdani will get more votes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027052)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:58 PM
Author: Richard Ames

The funny thing is that I think a lot of this shit doesn't even make a difference w.r.t. votes. Voting is basically just a population headcount now and a growing % of the population of NYC is incapable of understanding conditionals or second order thinking. Maybe it's necessary for Mamdani to hold off any potential adversaries to his left from within the DSA.

My bigger sense is that this probably just makes DSA activist types feel like they're "doing something" so they can avoid self-reflection and any requisite steps towards improving their own stead (of which step #1 would be leaving NYC for somewhere else and learning an actual skill).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027066)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

More cities will elect mayors like him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027072)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:55 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Food will be cheaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027053)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: Long PlayroomPoon Clown Conniption ( )

how?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027059)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: nude litigator

30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027061)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:30 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027227)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:57 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Zero profit margins for the retailer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027064)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: Richard Ames

I actually agree with what you are saying. I imagine you would agree that such a pathway will lead to meaningfully reduced choice for these consumers. Surely everyone could eat free if the food is just rice and beans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027070)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Not at all. If you like your grocery store you can keep shopping there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027074)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:14 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Sure, if the government run stores remain simply a "Public Option." But even at such stores, choice will be limited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027121)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:26 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Choice is pretty fucking limited at Whole Foods too. I assume you're aware of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027208)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Do you really think so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027349)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:11 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


NSAM has schizophrenia. Please be patient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027382)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027617)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:02 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Profit margins for grocery stores are around 2%. These stores will operate at a loss. To the extent they dont, it is only because they are exempt from tqxes and use ciry owned property....but the government is losing tax and rental revenue so it is still a loss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027079)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Police and fire departments operate at a loss, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027086)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Police coverage is not an excludable rivalrous good. Selling excludable rivalrous (finite) goods at a loss leads to shortages via waste and underproduction. This is why non-excludable non-rivalrous goods are called "public goods"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027088)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:09 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

I'll take that as a yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027095)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: sol rosenberg

the private companies selling them the food also will have zero profit margins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027333)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:57 PM
Author: sol rosenberg

this is false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027330)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:04 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Problem: greedy corporations exist that make profit from selling food, which is a Human Right. Nobody should profit from a Human Right

Solution: sell at a loss using public subsidy, putting grocery stores out of business and bringing more of the economy under the wings of the public sector.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027081)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:10 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

This is America. Food is a luxury good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027100)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:24 PM
Author: N904PD

the stores will always be low on food

selling at a loss is obviously a terrible strategy, so when they run low on stuff they will have to wait a week to restock to slow down how much they lose

shrinkage will be an issue; obviously the post and daily news will be chomping at the bit to see how they deal with it

staffing will also be lol. presumptively they will be paying people 30 dollars and hour or whatever and not be able to really fire anyone, although again if they don't have much food to sell it's not like they need to do much "work"

either that or it will be a YUGE success its 50/50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027189)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:27 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

So the problem is too many people will shop there and all the food will get consumed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027213)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: And what ur doing right now? It's illegal.

Governments shouldn't try to do stuff that tons of private businesses already do. If poors are too poor to buy food, we should give em some as we already do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027294)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


This isnt for poors they already get food stamps. The point is to drive the geeedy corporations that profit from a Human Right out of business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027305)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

How can they go out of business if Mamdani's stores have no food to sell? Surely some folks will opt to shop at Whole Foods instead of waiting in line for bread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027309)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Even a 5% drop in revenue will drive some groceries out of busines given the razor thin profit margins.

It's a sliding scale. The more money they sink into the effort, the more business they'll take from the stores, and the more they'll further the goal of driving the groceries out of business. The less money they sink into it, the quicker the shelves will go bare and the less effective theyll be at the ideological goal. But the losses will be more scandalous and less sustainable. Worth watching how they navigate this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027327)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

loooool!

the people who have the funds to shop at Whole Funds won't give a shit about a government grocery store.

The purpose of a public option is to give people a lower cost option instead being held by the balls by GC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027662)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Profit margins are 1-2%. How is that "being held by yhe balls" genius?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027685)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

Because a Gov't owned grocery store doesn't need to produce a profit.

Thus, food will be cheaper.

Did I make that clear enough you dumb faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027807)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


The profit is 1%-2% of the cost you drooling imbecile. Except at Whole Foods and similar luxury stores where it is a whopping 4.5%. Wow really grabbing you by the balls! Big savings!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027811)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

grocery stores make terrible margins and make $$$ off volumn.

we need a low margin business replaced by a... govt one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027375)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Trust If Aryan

sounds like shitlib logic at its finest!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027390)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:14 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

to be fur, we shouldnt allow a single digit amount of companies control our food, so "cons" do the actual fucking there. but ya keep complaining about some retarded shitlib answer to a problem cons encourage.

remove jews. fuck everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027398)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: Trust If Aryan

fair enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027427)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


There are thousands of retailers selling food in NYC. Are you retarded you weird trannfyfucker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027450)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:09 PM
Author: Richard Ames

I assume he was referencing the fact that Sysco and US Foods have an inordinate amount of power over the food supply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027524)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,


Maybe for restaurant food.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027527)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

That plus https://i.insider.com/57ebdc8edd08954b368b47d7?width=700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027830)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

ty for showing yourself to be a legit retard. Those are not suppliers.

https://i.insider.com/57ebdc8edd08954b368b47d7?width=700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027829)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027425)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:24 PM
Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)

i already did u fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027434)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:28 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Cons is this true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027777)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:27 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister, Esq.

Cons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027775)



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Date: July 27th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: Darnell

feels like a worthwhile experiment. worst case, some people who usually buy overpriced stuff at a bodega get decent prices for a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886643&forum_id=2)#50027823)