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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
sepia heaven
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
Rambunctious flickering idea he suggested property
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
sepia heaven
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
Rambunctious flickering idea he suggested property
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
Rambunctious flickering idea he suggested property
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
lascivious bearded crackhouse
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
sepia heaven
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
sepia heaven
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
sepia heaven
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
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Racist Redneck from Alabama
  06/04/26
he's appropriately rated
carmine flirting tattoo organic girlfriend
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
Narrow-minded Masturbator Philosopher-king
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/05/26
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Galvanic Red Theater
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
razzle-dazzle fishy home ceo
  04/05/26
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carmine flirting tattoo organic girlfriend
  04/05/26
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Green death wish
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
Adulterous sweet tailpipe
  04/05/26
Don't drop those BW3s Flamin' Dorito(TM) Hot wings on your c...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  06/04/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Emerald thriller native
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
supple honey-headed principal's office lettuce
  04/06/26
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sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Galvanic Red Theater
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
supple honey-headed principal's office lettuce
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Galvanic Red Theater
  04/07/26
Oh yeah that is the relevant metric when discussing GOAT vs....
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  06/04/26
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Yichudim
  06/04/26
do not google. there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or gr...
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  06/04/26
Randy Johnson Clemmons Pedro Ryan Glavine Bab...
Yichudim
  06/04/26
this career WAR. you got these right. 1. Cy Young+ (22)...
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  06/04/26
No Goog
tokens in abundance
  06/04/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: sepia heaven

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796396)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796397)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Rambunctious flickering idea he suggested property

He's undoubtedly top 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796399)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796405)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: sepia heaven

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796411)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796419)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: Rambunctious flickering idea he suggested property

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796426)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796432)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Rambunctious flickering idea he suggested property

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796436)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

all 3 above above ryan?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796437)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: lascivious bearded crackhouse

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796451)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: sepia heaven

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796401)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

he's def most high iq though, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796407)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: sepia heaven

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796409)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796413)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: sepia heaven

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796417)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796421)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM
Author: Racist Redneck from Alabama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914293)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: carmine flirting tattoo organic girlfriend

he's appropriately rated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796444)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Masturbator Philosopher-king

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796446)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796448)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Galvanic Red Theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49797805)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle fishy home ceo

Pedro was better (than anyone).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796514)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: carmine flirting tattoo organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796561)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: Green death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49799608)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: Adulterous sweet tailpipe

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796569)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:42 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Don't drop those BW3s Flamin' Dorito(TM) Hot wings on your crisp new steph curry jersey, cuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914343)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Emerald thriller native

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796577)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: supple honey-headed principal's office lettuce

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49797104)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: sooty frum scourge upon the earth jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49797818)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Galvanic Red Theater

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49797984)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: supple honey-headed principal's office lettuce

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49798932)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Galvanic Red Theater

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49799605)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:44 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Oh yeah that is the relevant metric when discussing GOAT vs. mere HOF mlb pitching, thanks chung li.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914344)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM
Author: Yichudim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914271)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


do not google.

there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914284)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Yichudim

Randy Johnson

Clemmons

Pedro

Ryan

Glavine

Babe Ruth

Scherzer

Seaver

cy Young

Maddux



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914286)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this career WAR. you got these right.

1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R

3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R

7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R

8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R

9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914287)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: tokens in abundance
Subject: No Goog

Clayton Kershaw

Curt Schilling

Mariano Rivera

Bob Gibson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914292)