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Golf exists so aging men w/ testosterone deficiency can play a “sport”

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olive stirring indian lodge
  05/01/26
yea that's why everyone who was Good at football/baseball/ba...
cream giraffe
  05/01/26
How does that disprove his point? You say athletic guys take...
Alcoholic half-breed idea he suggested
  05/01/26
no one is playing tackle football after HS/college. adult ba...
cream giraffe
  05/01/26
“actual athletes play golf” lmao wrong
olive stirring indian lodge
  05/01/26
it's true dipshit. sorry your mom signed you up for the marc...
cream giraffe
  05/01/26
I’ve played golf many of times…with my 70-yo FI...
olive stirring indian lodge
  05/01/26
you don't have a FIL because you clearly aren't married and ...
cream giraffe
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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:46 AM Author: Golf yea that's why...
olive stirring indian lodge
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cream giraffe
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sienna garrison
  05/01/26
what about young "men" who play golf, low t?
Harsh Claret Old Irish Cottage Milk
  05/01/26
generally yes but there aren’t enough of them to susta...
olive stirring indian lodge
  05/01/26
lol this is completely false you actual retard. junior golf ...
cream giraffe
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sienna garrison
  05/01/26
cr. 50 y/o men should be playing tackle football
odious main people
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It seems like adult men could just play full-on baseball but...
aphrodisiac preventive strike lay
  05/01/26
my Country Club actually has a baseball team that plays othe...
cream giraffe
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I’d play golf if I could do it without being a Joke. ...
aphrodisiac preventive strike lay
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the poaster you’re replying to is a closeted fag who c...
olive stirring indian lodge
  05/01/26
you are a retarded dickless tranny who spends 20+ hours a da...
cream giraffe
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you tee off, hit at the green, two putt for par on a normal ...
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olive stirring indian lodge
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sienna garrison
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Golf is pretty chill but you should be running and lifting w...
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I prefer to play real sports instead of trying to be the bes...
cream giraffe
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abusive iridescent rigpig
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You’re probably fat and going to die younger than me t...
Purple plaza
  05/01/26
I’m probably in better shape and a better athlete than...
cream giraffe
  05/01/26
Kinda doubt it if golf is your main activity.
Purple plaza
  05/02/26
Some people start off more advantaged than others. the peopl...
cream giraffe
  05/02/26
i'm mostly on your side ITT but only out of shape people who...
thriller pozpig range
  05/02/26
Working out enough to stay ok is fine but going on like 8 mi...
cream giraffe
  05/03/26
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charismatic cowardly theater stage shitlib
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i do that too. but i really only started focusing on that st...
abusive iridescent rigpig
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sienna garrison
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Golf tp exists to defend them whenever someone points this o...
Canary Dead Hairy Legs
  05/01/26
golf's fine but it bores me, never enjoyed it that much othe...
thriller pozpig range
  05/02/26
My frame of focus was on people who are actually decent at i...
cream giraffe
  05/03/26
I’m now inspired to take up golf and waddle down the f...
Free-loading pale sweet tailpipe
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Golf tp accosting a hockey player out on the links https...
olive stirring indian lodge
  05/03/26
Golf TP: spending sunday beating the shit out of a 4 handica...
cream giraffe
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olive stirring indian lodge
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sienna garrison
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sienna garrison
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go for walks as a life pursuit tp, checking in.
maroon organic girlfriend
  08/17/26
hiking is a nice way to get some fresh air
cream giraffe
  08/17/26
Its also a nice way to get killed by a bear.
maroon organic girlfriend
  08/17/26
not flame I got chased by a bear while golfing when I was 17...
cream giraffe
  08/17/26
the bear's name was jack nicklaus.
maroon organic girlfriend
  08/18/26
looked more like Calvin Peete
cream giraffe
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got a $100 per man throw in game this Sat. sure you're prob...
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  08/27/26
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sporting clays > golf
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Golf Wigger
  08/27/26
running for any reason as a grown man is undignified. you'd...
golf wigger
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Golf Wigger
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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:18 AM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge



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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:46 AM
Author: cream giraffe

yea that's why everyone who was Good at football/baseball/basketball takes up golf at some point in their lives while scrawny/fat dorks gravitate towards beta shit like "hiking" and "cycling". clearly just their declining testosterone to not wear a bunch of spandex while playing with a child's toy or go for walks as a life pursuit vs. doing something that actually requires athletic ability and competitiveness.

way to have the dumbest take yet again on yet another topic you tranny pedo retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856803)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic half-breed idea he suggested

How does that disprove his point? You say athletic guys take it up "at some point in their lives." Well, maybe that's when they're aging and low-T.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857086)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:43 PM
Author: cream giraffe

no one is playing tackle football after HS/college. adult basketball is also lame as shit. RSF literally played in a hockey league with fucking anthony weiner so that's telling to how athletic all these people are. then there's the soyboy hiking/cycling crowd and the tryhard dorks like cslg who obsessively go to the gym that are even more pathetic.

actual athletes play golf. dork losers play adult rec basketball or soccer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857171)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:46 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge

“actual athletes play golf”

lmao wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857188)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: cream giraffe

it's true dipshit. sorry your mom signed you up for the marching band instead of getting you golf lessons as a kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857197)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:51 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge

I’ve played golf many of times…with my 70-yo FIL. it’s fun to hang out and drink and be outside but it’s not a real sport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857204)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: cream giraffe

you don't have a FIL because you clearly aren't married and are lying out your ass again you dickless tranny retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857218)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 1:30 PM
Author: cream giraffe



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:03 PM
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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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Date: May 2nd, 2026 5:58 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge

Date: May 1st, 2026 11:46 AM

Author: Golf

yea that's why everyone who was Good at football/baseball/basketball takes up golf at some point in their lives while scrawny/fat dorks gravitate towards beta shit like "hiking" and "cycling". clearly just their declining testosterone to not wear a bunch of spandex while playing with a child's toy or go for walks as a life pursuit vs. doing something that actually requires athletic ability and competitiveness.

way to have the dumbest take yet again on yet another topic you tranny pedo retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49860183)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 8:20 AM
Author: cream giraffe

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49861059)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:18 AM
Author: Harsh Claret Old Irish Cottage Milk

what about young "men" who play golf, low t?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856744)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 12:06 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge

generally yes but there aren’t enough of them to sustain all the golf courses in America. their bread and butter is aging men with testosterone deficiency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856852)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: cream giraffe

lol this is completely false you actual retard. junior golf is more competitive than it ever was even since the early 2000s/post-tiger boom. and everyone who plays sports as a kid ends up playing golf as they get older. it's only the soyboy libpedos who do shit like hiking or cringe inducing adult soccer leagues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856869)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: odious main people

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50 y/o men should be playing tackle football

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856745)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: aphrodisiac preventive strike lay

It seems like adult men could just play full-on baseball but it never happens. It’s Normal for middle schoolers to throw balls at each others heads as hard as they can but adult males are Afraid. This is hard to justify imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856762)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: cream giraffe

my Country Club actually has a baseball team that plays other clubs, etc in the area. Our club champ winner one year was a D3 pitcher and blew out his shoulder so missed the next golf season. a few other guys are ex-college/HS players. but yea, golf is a sport for "low-T unathletic guys" according to the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on this site filled with retards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49856777)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: aphrodisiac preventive strike lay

I’d play golf if I could do it without being a Joke.

When people say they shot an 86 or something does that mean like 4 strikes per hole because no way is that happening. People make scores like that sound Normal. Thats probably what I shoot in Mini Golf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857074)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:29 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge

the poaster you’re replying to is a closeted fag who can’t help you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857137)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:47 PM
Author: cream giraffe

you are a retarded dickless tranny who spends 20+ hours a day, 7 days a week, on the internet obsessing over an 80 year old man. but yea, I'm the closet case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857193)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:44 PM
Author: cream giraffe

you tee off, hit at the green, two putt for par on a normal par 4

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Date: May 1st, 2026 1:28 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:03 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857251)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:57 PM
Author: Purple plaza

Golf is pretty chill but you should be running and lifting weights and such as well at minimum. For me golf isn’t of interest because I don’t break a sweat playing it but it seems fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857222)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: cream giraffe

I prefer to play real sports instead of trying to be the best at exercising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857229)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:09 PM
Author: abusive iridescent rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857287)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 5:03 PM
Author: Purple plaza

You’re probably fat and going to die younger than me then (but 180 reference)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857549)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 5:57 PM
Author: cream giraffe

I’m probably in better shape and a better athlete than you. I do probably outweigh you though because I’m 6’3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857682)



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Date: May 2nd, 2026 12:11 AM
Author: Purple plaza

Kinda doubt it if golf is your main activity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49858822)



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Date: May 2nd, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: cream giraffe

Some people start off more advantaged than others. the people in their 40s destroying their joints being heavy into running and lifting beyond regular exercise usually are the ones born in right field angry they weren’t born on 3rd base.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49860714)



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Date: May 2nd, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: thriller pozpig range

i'm mostly on your side ITT but only out of shape people who fear/reject fitness rant about lifting and cardio "destroying your joints."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49860801)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 8:19 AM
Author: cream giraffe

Working out enough to stay ok is fine but going on like 8 mile runs or max benching in your 40s is fucking stupid. It’s only insecure tryhards and psychos who make it their entire identity who do that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49861058)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 11:52 PM
Author: appetizing demanding hall cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49858751)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: charismatic cowardly theater stage shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49861062)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: abusive iridescent rigpig

i do that too. but i really only started focusing on that stuff mid 30s. as a young man all i did was golf.

kinda the opposite of what this thread is saying. started doing other sports and working out more when i realized im aging and should fight the future T drop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857293)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857252)



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Date: May 1st, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Canary Dead Hairy Legs

Golf tp exists to defend them whenever someone points this out tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49857254)



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Date: May 2nd, 2026 11:27 PM
Author: thriller pozpig range

golf's fine but it bores me, never enjoyed it that much other than the social aspect and day drinking opportunities.

golf the poster is more right than wrong ITT but LOL at the idea that golf is mostly pursued by all these fictional strapping ex-jocks. ime, the washed up athletes who need some kind of competitive outlet to fuck with people and push themselves are more likely to pick up the spandex and a helmet than seriously commit to golf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49860805)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 8:12 AM
Author: cream giraffe

My frame of focus was on people who are actually decent at it. It’s either people who played since they were little kids or people who are good athletes. Plenty of doctors and dorks with $ plus fat drunk muni course losers also golf but are terrible at it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49861050)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 8:21 AM
Author: Free-loading pale sweet tailpipe

I’m now inspired to take up golf and waddle down the fairway shooting 173 just so the gaggle of sportchads behind me have to suffer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49861060)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 8:44 AM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge

Golf tp accosting a hockey player out on the links

https://x.com/fw_bigjay/status/2050632012600373315?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49861077)



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Date: May 3rd, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: cream giraffe

Golf TP: spending sunday beating the shit out of a 4 handicap ex-college player gen-x dood then having lunch and beers afterwards

post blanking faggot: yet another sunday spamming the internet and refreshing twitter every 1.6 seconds while obsessing over an 80 year old man

clearly the latter is the more high-T activity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#49862231)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50073408)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 1:13 PM
Author: olive stirring indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50073394)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50073409)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: sienna garrison

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50073410)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 1:38 PM
Author: maroon organic girlfriend

go for walks as a life pursuit tp, checking in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50073509)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: cream giraffe

hiking is a nice way to get some fresh air

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50074230)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 7:21 PM
Author: maroon organic girlfriend

Its also a nice way to get killed by a bear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50074237)



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Date: August 17th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: cream giraffe

not flame I got chased by a bear while golfing when I was 17 years old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50074242)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 1:47 PM
Author: maroon organic girlfriend

the bear's name was jack nicklaus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50075826)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: cream giraffe

looked more like Calvin Peete

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50075831)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:17 PM
Author: Golf Wigger



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097065)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:25 PM
Author: golf wigger

got a $100 per man throw in game this Sat. sure you're probably going to be playing tackle football or at least competitive cricket this weekend and def not spending the entire weekend refreshing your tds twitter feed and spamming this place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097081)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:31 PM
Author: lib quotemo = literally WLMAS = dumb nigger

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097098)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:29 PM
Author: UhOh

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097092)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:30 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


sporting clays > golf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097095)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Golf Wigger



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097177)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: golf wigger

running for any reason as a grown man is undignified. you'd know this if you weren't a dickless tranny retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097179)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Golf Wigger

why does the factual title of this thread upset you so much? are you a fag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097197)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:31 PM
Author: lib quotemo = literally WLMAS = dumb nigger

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5862427&forum_id=2)#50097099)



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Date: August 27th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface



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