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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
french stage
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
french stage
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
french stage
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
ruby disrespectful piazza roommate
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
crystalline clown potus
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
bateful base
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/05/26
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Dashing School Cafeteria Trust Fund
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
Glittery Theater
  04/05/26
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crystalline clown potus
  04/05/26
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Provocative charcoal national associate
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
Demanding abode
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Hairraiser feces multi-billionaire
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
Geriatric Drunken Parlour Community Account
  04/06/26
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stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Dashing School Cafeteria Trust Fund
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
Geriatric Drunken Parlour Community Account
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Dashing School Cafeteria Trust Fund
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: french stage

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: french stage

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: french stage

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: ruby disrespectful piazza roommate

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2).#49796413)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Coiffed property mad-dog skullcap

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: crystalline clown potus

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: bateful base

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2).#49796446)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Dashing School Cafeteria Trust Fund



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: Glittery Theater

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: crystalline clown potus



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: Provocative charcoal national associate



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: Demanding abode

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser feces multi-billionaire

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2).#49796577)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: Geriatric Drunken Parlour Community Account

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: stubborn pale corn cake hissy fit



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Dashing School Cafeteria Trust Fund

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Geriatric Drunken Parlour Community Account

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2).#49798932)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Dashing School Cafeteria Trust Fund

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2).#49799605)