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My subjective, slightly conspiracy-laden breakdown of Jews & Zionism
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Date: April 8th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: oomox Obviously I'm saying a few different things here so feel free to address any part you have thoughts on. I've only been learning about this for about two years so be gentle when correcting me if I got anything wrong. ----
Date: April 8th, 2026 11:21 PM Author: oomox
Don't worry, I know you know that only a subset of Jews are demonic ethnosupremacist genocidaires. Before I talk about the Zio motivations/whether Zionism is connected to Frankism: What do you think about my theory that blood libel against rabbinic Jews (e.g. Lwów disputation) contributed to antisemitic undercurrents that helped the Holocaust take off? I'm not saying that this stuff was a large part of what motivated Hitler himself, but it seems plausible that Frankist deception planted a bunch of seeds in people's minds about Jews being pedo rapists and ritual murderers of Christians, which spread and grew over generations and ultimately helped Hitler's message catch on.
As far as what makes Zios act the way they act... of course there are tiers of Zionism. Before I knew how "Israel" was formed, even I was like, "oh yeah it kinda makes sense for Jews to have their own country." And as I'm sure you know, most synagogues and Sunday schools conveniently leave the Nakba out of their curricula. My mom told me that she was told that it was "a land without people for a people without a land." She was taught Hebrew songs about how it was a barren, empty desert and the Jews turned it into a fertile, thriving home. So there are a lot of people of every religion who could be considered Zionists in the sense of, like, they don't even know that there were already 700,000 people in Palestine, so they have no issue with a country being carved out for Jews after the Holocaust. People who feel that way are misled, not evil.
Then there are people who know how "Israel" was founded and are like, "that was wrong but they're there now sooo I guess it's a Jewish state now 🤷" kinda like how most people feel about America I guess. Not an explicitly evil category either.
Finally, there are the people who believe in the Greater Israel Project. They think Israel should just keep expanding by murdering and displacing everyone around them. And on the same level are the people who originally supported the founding of Israel, which obviously also involved a lot of murder and displacement lol. This camp is firmly evil and THIS is the group that I theorize descended from/is still tied to Frankism.
So that's just breaking down different types of Zionists in terms of what they think "Israel" should be in terms of its existence. But then there's the question of, what does a "Jewish state" even mean? And anyone who's OK with an ethnosupremacist apartheid state is in the evil category IMHO. If it's just like, "yeah let the Jews gather there in large numbers and if they happen to run the government because there are so many of them there, that's fine"... that's naive and disconnected from reality because it IS an ethnosupremacist apartheid state and there were already people there. But in theory, sure, let people of whatever group gather wherever they want.
Soooo that's my breakdown on different flavors of Zionism and how evil I think they are, lol. My theory about Frankists just applies to the ones who are a-OK with murdering and displacing people for an apartheid state. These people see ethnic Jews as racially superior and the "Chosen People" who can basically do whatever they want because... God said so? Even though most of them don't even believe in God?
Personally I don't think, like, Ashkenazi Jews should all be kicked back to Europe or whatever. I just want everyone to have equal rights and for Zios to stop fucking killing innocent people and stealing land :(
( http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855180&forum_id=2#49805669 ) |
Date: April 9th, 2026 1:53 AM Author: oomox (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49805856) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:24 PM Author: oomox One more bump since there are some active Israel threads right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806742) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:25 PM Author: woman having existential crisis I'm 69 IQ and there's no way I'm reading all that shit
Fuck Jews and fuck kikes imho |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:29 PM Author: oomox Fuck Jewish supremacists and fuck Israel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806753) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:43 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.....,:,...:.:.,:.::,. the 'zionism' thing is really a red herring.
people in the West are less concerned with picking apart the particulars of Zionism than they are with the mafia-like behavior of Jews in white western countries -- their organized subversion of politics/media/finance, their obvious intention to genocide/displace whites, their bizarre stated grudge against 'Rome'/'Edom,' and so on.
Jews were not booted out of 109 countries because of 'Zionism' or whatever. they were booted out because they operate as a hostile state within a state, an ethno-mafia, whose intention has been, since the Bolsheviks, to dominate and destroy white populations on industrial scale. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:57 PM Author: woman having existential crisis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806804) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:00 PM Author: Richard Ames Yes. "Zionism" is just what is relatively "allowed" in the mainstream and mainstream-adjacent discourse. The actual issue is the behavior of elite jews. Particularly because they tend to work in "functional" industries that cut across huge swathes of society. e.g.) finance, law, media. They aren't engineers working on producing better widgets. So they wedge into every other industry through their influence on finance, law, and media.
What's more, they are FAR more liberal on social issues than the average American. Particularly compared to the average white American (who actually creates the majority of value in society from a production and tax standpoint.) So this puts them at odds with the majority.
That, and the coordinate much more closely than white people at large. They behave like The Mafia, but they do so within legal entities. So their behavior is often "legal," or at least all illegalities move through the court system (which they also have undue influence over.)
Very sick!! |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:03 PM Author: oomox Cr, the problem is the elites, many of whom are Jewish. And I would venture to say 99.999% of Jewish elites are Jewish supremacist Zionists.
Zionists who have normal standing in society are evil in my opinion, per my OP, but irrelevant when it comes to impact on the world. I didn't differentiate in my OP between which Zios are ruining the world and which ones are just bad people. But it's definitely the elites who are ruining shit. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:08 PM Author: Richard Ames I mean imagine for a moment the Irish were overrepresented in the elites. And we were constantly going on about The Famine and British Oppression and Reunifying Ireland and what not. It would be an issue for sure, but at least your average Irishman isn't a fucking tranny-promoting libtard freak. And on average Irish people are fun and well-liked wherever they go. People would probably tolerate the endless Famine propaganda because the social fabric wouldn't be constantly under attack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806833) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: oomox Idk, it hasn't been my experience that the Jews I've met are perverted freaks, other than CSLG.
If you want one group to blame for the downfall of society, it's the ruling class. We now know that a large portion of the most wealthy and powerful people around the world are LITERAL CANNIBALISTIC CHILD RAPISTS!!!! I don't care how many of them are Jewish, I care about imprisoning and/or electrocuting them all. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:24 PM Author: Richard Ames I feel like you're so close to getting it. Jews are vastly overrepresented in the elites and have undue influence over them as a class because of the functional industries they operate in. Remove them from the equation, and the biggest issues dissipate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806862) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:31 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) why not just remove the elites causing problems? that's going to be primarily goys, although i agree jews are overrepresented.
it's the same as people arguing we should get rid of blacks because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. we could just punish bad actors in an identity neutral way. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:33 PM Author: Is it not the case Cr if all the bad actors in the black community were put away for a long time the rest of them would be fine. People hate blacks because of their behavior even if the majority of them don't do anything bad. Bad apple ruins it for everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806884) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:36 PM Author: oomox Exactly.
(I don't agree with the premise of the analogy to Black Americans – they don't necessarily commit a disproportionate amount of crime when adjusted for class, they're just caught/convicted more often – but we're on the same page philosophically.) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:44 PM Author: Is it not the case I disagree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806901) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: oomox EPAH is probably the only person on this board who would agree with me on that point but it doesn't matter to this discussion. And it doesn't matter IRL either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806904) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:48 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) they do commit more crimes adjusting for class. thats an objective fact you can find the data on. i think the denial of this is the camels nose that results in policy that factors in identity. because if you believe this, and it turns out theres still more blacks being arrested adjusted for class, the only logical conclusion is that the system must be biased against them in some way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806916) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.....,:,...:.:.,:.::,. because Jews are not white; they are hostile aliens, and even the 'good ones' are largely complicit in the behavior of the bad ones -- Qui tacet consentire videtur.
there is a difference between a corrupt shithead white person and an ethnocarcissist alien occupying the 'elite'.
there is no reasonable structural way to sift through the ranks of Jews and find the PURE AND RIGHTEOUS and BASED ones while 86ing the 'bad seeds'.
this is the nature of in-group/out-group. it must operate at the group level, not ad hoc.
America/Europe is for white people. the only way they can survive is to have soveriegnty.
no one would allow Presbyterians to own the media/banks in Israel, even if they were 'swell guys.' |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: oomox Jews aren't overrepresented in the elites because they're inherently bad people, though. The elites are a very small group, and IMO the only reason so many of them are Jews is because a few evil Jews got a lot of power and pulled other evil Jews up with them.
How do you suggest removing us from the equation? |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:35 PM Author: Is it not the case There should be a government pilot project to help straight white guys get into Yale with substandard test scores imo. I think everything shakes out if you simply let the bros back into the upper echelons. Give some high IQ loser brahs a chance at running society again. It worked for ages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806887) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:00 PM Author: oomox It's not just "mafia-like," it's also literally the Jewish Mafia. You know about how the Jewish Mafia, Italian Mob, and CIA have all been working together since the mid-1900s, right? Whitney Webb talks about this.
Zionism isn't a red herring because the Jews you're talking about – the ones who have gained disproportionate influence in politics/media/finance and rotted society by subverting traditional morals – are all Zionists. There are also Zionists who don't have any power and they suck too but don't really matter. And then MOST Jews are normal people. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:10 PM Author: Richard Ames I would agree that a majority of Jews are "normal" people. But they are also far more liberal across the board than white Americans. They also view themselves most favorably and evangelicals least favorably, for instance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806841) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:52 PM Author: Dagoth Ur I agree now show tits/feet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806795) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:54 PM Author: '"'"'"''" Jew here. Not gonna read all that but I'll give you my personal take.
I am American first and support Israel like I would any other ally. Yes, they are an ally. We get a ton of military tech and intelligence from them. I also think Islam is a danger to the West, so it's nice to see someone actually standing up to it.
No, our interests aren't always aligned, and when they're not, America should always come first. No question.
Even though I support Israel I think it's cringey when politicans act like they can do no wrong and like they're an unassailable ally. We should be able to ally with Israel but also criticize it when our interests aren't aligned just like we would with the UK or Canada.
I don't care how Israel was founded. Might makes right. America was founded the same way. The fixation on indigenous populations is stupid and the same logic would dictate that America should be dismantled and returned to native tribes. Fuck that shit.
I reject the idea of dual loyality or that Israel is the Jewish "homeland" for the same reason. Judaism is a religion. Yes, Jews lived in Israel in 2,000 BC. My family has been in America for many generations. I am fully American and Israel isn't my homeland any more than Ireland is some 5th generation American McDonnell's homeland.
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:56 PM Author: sealclubber (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806801) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:00 PM Author: Is it not the case Goyim-American here. I still consider Ireland my homeland. I like America because it's a good spot. It's like Europe's greatest hits. But as an indigenous Euro I do consider it the fallback plan. If nothing else works it really is our homeland where we get all our culture and genetics from. All our science and ideas and innovations and beliefs come from the uniqueness of this one place where we're all from. It's the one place that organically belongs to us even if we have drifted apart politically and our values are slightly different it's still our home. I think all white Americans should have the right to go back and live in Europe any time imo. I think the government should pressure the EU and the UK to let us go back any time we feel like it.
I don't think you're entirely wrong about Israel and you probably represent the median view among American Jews here. That being said Jewish chauvinism is so pervasive and influential and successful that it cannot be denied the stranglehold it has on our collective sovereignty. If goyim had half the political agency that Jews do in this country it would be an unrecognizable new dawn in America. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:03 PM Author: '"'"'"''" The European country my family emigrated from in the 19th century no longer exists, so I'm not exactly sure where I'd go but I'm definitely not going to Israel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806818) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:04 PM Author: Is it not the case Yeah my ancestors were yuge Prussians from Königsberg. That ship has sailed but personally I think we should have free range to live anywhere in Europe we want to. POTUS should fuck with all EU countries until a deal is hatched. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806826) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:05 PM Author: '"'"'"''" 180 idea.
But personally I have no desire to ever leave. I've traveled enough to know that America is better than any of these other shitholes. We mistake "managed decline" for "quaint" in most of Europe.
Good to visit, though. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:09 PM Author: Is it not the case Oh definitely. I always say parts of Europe have the healthiest, tallest, smartest, best looking people in the world with absolutely zero ambition. They are all low T af. I think the reinjection of Americanism into their culture would do wonders for the world. Like imagine if some Yank went to Denmark and was like look guys let's drop the act, deport all the darkies, and go retake our colonies. Where there's a will there's a way. Goyim invented Isreal before Isreal was Isreal. They were called colonies. We could make white countries all over the world. It would just take a little bit of belief to rally the troops. It's OK when WE do it. I just don't want Kushner to have a monopoly on the prime real estate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806836) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:29 PM Author: '"'"'"''" I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:31 PM Author: Is it not the case Ty saar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806881) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:05 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) reasonable take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806829) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:15 PM Author: oomox I think that treating Israel as an ally similar to the UK or Canada – we work together but they're not beyond reproach – is OK in theory. But if the UK or Canada had done as much to fuck us over as Israel, I don't think we'd still be allies. See: all the shit we've done in the Middle East on their behalf, the U.S.S. Liberty, the Americans they've killed in the West Bank, 9/11...
And of course the asymmetrical financial relationship. They have universal healthcare, free education, and a budget surplus. Why the fuck are we sending them money and paying for their defense? We don't have any of this shit and are trillions in debt.
And on top of that, if we really wann be Team America World Police (personally I am an isolationist) why do we let Israel commit war crimes with impunity?! |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:18 PM Author: Is it not the case Cr. No matter how you slice it there's a huge imbalance and it doesn't make any sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806855) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: '"'"'"''" I'm not going to go down the "israel did 9/11" conspiracy rabbit hole but yes, Israel has absolutely done shitty things. I think we put up with a lot because they were our American-backed power to counter the USSR in the Middle East. But yeah, like I said, they should not be immune from criticism.
The "we send them all of our money" thing is a little overblown. According to Grok:
The US provides Israel with about $3.8 billion per year in military aid (under the current 2019–2028 Memorandum of Understanding: ~$3.3 billion in Foreign Military Financing + $500 million for missile defense programs like Iron Dome). This baseline has been higher in recent war years due to supplemental funding (e.g., over $16–21 billion additional since October 2023), but the standard annual figure remains ~$3.8 billion. Israel spends most or all of that US aid on US weapons and defense systems via Foreign Military Sales (FMS) or qualified purchases—meaning the "$3.8 billion sent" largely cycles back to American defense contractors. Israel also has additional active FMS cases (valued at tens of billions cumulatively) and some independent purchases, but exact annual "out-of-pocket" spending on US arms beyond the aid is not separately broken out in public data and is relatively small compared to the aid-funded portion. In short: US aid ≈ $3.8B/year (mostly grants), and Israel directs nearly all of it toward buying US weapons. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: Is it not the case This money should go to goyim. It should be going to France and England. What about our people? I'm tired of tax money going to someone else's people. What about us? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806878) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:34 PM Author: '"'"'"''" I'm fine with that. Israelis aren't my people, Americans are. I support programs like this for any of our allies as it would be good for our economy.
Tangent here, but maybe we can rebuild Brittain's sad navy. I'd love to see the British Empire resurgent. I'm 0% British but I actually find the entire situation with migrants there to be very disheartening. British people are 180 and seeing their entire country falling apart sucks. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:41 PM Author: Is it not the case 180
You're a very rare breed. I haven't met too many goy-first Jews. But yes obviously USA should be hired on to run lots of falling countries. I think the obvious one is Argentina. Should just be made a US territory.
That's what makes Iran War so infuriating. I voted for Trump the CEO President. Just bring peace and well managed capitalism to the world. We should have investments pouring into these dum-dum countries. USA should privatize the Royal Navy. Just take Britain's tax money and we build back their Navy for cheap. Have Elon design a carrier. We'll do all the work and collect a premium and UK can start to feel like a country again.
I love the wheeler-dealer aspect of Trump plus the TACO gunboat diplomacy is 180. It's inspiring and I wish was 20 right now with all the options in front of me. We should be putting black kids on the moon. There's so much the POTUS can do to inspire generations. Cucking for Isreal and losing 10% of the world's oil reserves in some hairbrained Hebraic plot was seriously fucking stoopid though. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:46 PM Author: '"'"'"''" putting black kids on the moon tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806909) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:22 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) i wouldnt even consider the first two groups zionist in the way zionist is used today. it would be like saying i believe in manifest destiny because i don't think the western states should be dissolved.
the state of israel already exists. zionism was a movement for creating the state of israel today. when i think of zionist today i think of an advocate that resources should be spent maintaining or expanding the state of israel. likewise, i when i see anti-zionist i think of someone who thinks israel should not exist. i don't think that includes very many people outside of the middle east except muslim immigrants and neo-nazis. when i say im an anti-zionist im not saying i think israel should be destroyed, but that we shouldn't be spending our resources ensuring it remains. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: Is it not the case This is basically the Tucker position writ large. This is the median position on the populist right. This is where someone like Theo Von is at. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806872) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: oomox That's also a totally fine way of defining it. As a passionate anti-Zionist, I have a broader definition that includes anyone who's OK with Israel existing as a Jewish ethnostate. And that includes "liberal Zionists" who support a two-state solution because they're basically saying "yeah Israel can keep doing apartheid as long as they stop occupying Gaza and the West Bank." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806877) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:37 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt) do you think our resources should be spent ensuring this? and if so, why not also police every other non-liberalized country, which includes the majority of them?
and, if you do believe we should police other nations, do you think this is even achievable? every war that had some humanitarian justification was a veneer for an imperialist motive. i don't think its human nature for an entire country to unite behind being altruistic superhereos, nor do i think its a moral to impose our values on others, especially when there are so many domestic problems those resources could be dedicated to. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:41 PM Author: oomox I don't think we should police other nations at all. I'm 100% an isolationist as far as military intervention, including selling weapons. I'm OK with some humanitarian aid but we need to put Americans first.
When it comes to using trade and sanctions and stuff to try to bend other countries to our will, I think that'd be reasonable to an extent if we were actually enforcing good morals rather than punishing communism and shit.
In the case of Israel, we need to stop sending weapons and money immediately. That one is straightforward. They can't do all this evil shit without us. |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:47 PM Author: Is it not the case I would settle not for cutting them off completely but even a simple reduction would send a clear message to stop effing around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806914) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:48 PM Author: oomox I think we need to cut them off completely but yeah I'd be thankful for any reduction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806917) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:44 PM Author: Darnell the pendulum needs to swing back. after 80+ years of the west being guilt-tripped and kind and understanding, western nations should seize israeli financial and IP assets as reparations and attack israel militarily. the history of the jewish people shows they'll be just fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806900) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:46 PM Author: oomox Lol. I'm an isolationist so I disagree but it would be 1800000 if we took their assets and used them to rebuild Gaza (and not in the Board of Peace way, I mean restore it to a home for Palestinians to have self-determination) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2,5#49806913) |