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ITT: Cast your FINAL vote on whether “AI” is fucking flame.
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:27 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater And post your moniker for posterity. Let’s take as the measure whether “AI” leads to 6% unemployment among college grads by 2030 (it won’t count if that rate is the result of the bubble bursting and ensuing general economic downturn). Epah here. Yes it’s fucking flame. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 10:57 AM Author: frozen abnormal travel guidebook (Redacted, didn't intend to snipe reply to the main poast, see poast below) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909966) |
Date: May 31st, 2026 9:31 PM Author: claret house Turd Lizard Rapist here. It's furking flame. They cant even use it to make like credit card or airline sites better, its been years now and they cant do that. Like I dont understand how financial sites cannot use AI to monitor ur common practices so when u log in it gears the website to that and anticipate what u want, its just furking unbelievable. Its so basic but they cant even do that. And somehow their AI chatbots are total shit, I can get better answers asking ChatGPT than these furking company chatbots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909305) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:45 PM Author: claret house I shld add its possible corps dont care anymore abt using AI for consumer stuff, some Uber exec commented recently they arent finding it beneficial for getting consumers to spend more
But they prob will still use it to cut employment in like back office functions and programming. So it may work for that until someone gets furked cutting too much and realizes they still need at least some ppl who arent in chennai |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:32 PM Author: thriller khaki police squad Dario Amodei here. No, not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909306) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:32 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef if you're going to use unemployment, you should use U-6 unemployment rate. that's currently 8.2%, and it's likely higher among college grads than nongrads. please re-specify. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909307) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:38 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater I don’t know what U6 is, and Tommy and I have already voted 😐 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909316) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:39 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef I'm gonna say Not Flame in response to the spirit of the question, but who knows what they'll do to the Numbers by then to pretend people are fine.
moniker: need tokens |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:51 PM Author: slippery mexican gay wizard Not flame. Especially with 2030 as the time horizon.
I'm Richard Ames. |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:52 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal philosopher-king absorute frame
JMAW |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 4:01 PM Author: ebony galvanic jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910226) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:54 PM Author: carmine indecent ape incel it is absolute flame but will still lead to quite a bit of unemployment as companies flame out trying to adopt it, the best case scenario is that AI becomes our UI for all of computers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909343) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:56 PM Author: claret house MSFT wld never let that happen, bring up another point how lolzy is it we still use windows which is basically same shit as 30 years ago and MSFT hasnt applied AI to anything in windows, their entire stragedy is just let the monopoly ride forever inshallah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909347) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:57 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal philosopher-king https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909350) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:57 PM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus lol unemployment rate for college grads is already above 6%
wtf alternate universe is this thread taking place in |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 10:00 PM Author: claret house dat the other AI "another Indian" taking those jerbs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909355) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 10:00 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef he probably did a quick google search without looking into the real unemployment rate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909360) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 10:01 PM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus i mean without looking up any "data" and just going off anecdotal experience from interacting in the real world as a member of society....you'd have to be utterly fucking deluded to think that college grad unemployment rate is under 6% right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909364) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:21 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater Two quick guesses about your worldview: 1) You love Rogan, and 2) you don’t “trust experts,” because you know how to “do your own research”?
“ If by “college graduates” you mean people with a bachelor’s degree or higher, the most recent U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data show an unemployment rate of 2.8% in April 2026 for adults age 25 and older with at least a bachelor’s degree.” |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:29 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef If by "real" unemployment you mean the percentage of people who want a full-time job but cannot find one that pays a living wage, the Ludwig Institute for Shared Economic Prosperity (LISEP) tracks this as the True Rate of Unemployment (TRU). By this metric, the functional unemployment rate is much higher than official government data suggests: Bachelor's Degree Holders: 15.6% Advanced Degree Holders: 13.8% https://www.lisep.org/tru (April numbers) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:50 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater This includes posters who are like, “yeah I want a WFH job that pays $250k, so long as it permits me to also post all day.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909534) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:53 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef what? no, their cutoff was $26K for living wage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909540) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:55 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater $26k isn’t a living wage. So substitute my critique with “so long as the job allows me to be stoned all day and play video games.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909547) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:57 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef what are you trying to say? the link in my poast clearly states how they calculated it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909551) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:02 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater I didn’t read your link, but anyone who wants a job that pays at least $26k can get one — so long as he/she has the ability to consistently show up at an appointed time on specific days, not fight with customers or coworkers, and be sober during work hours. Saying that such things are unattainable is lib nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909559) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:03 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef dude what the fuck are you even talking about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909561) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:10 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater I don’t understand what you don’t understand about it. The lib thinktank youre citing seems to determine its “true unemployment” statistic by asking people if they want to have a good well-paying job, and count as “unemployed” everyone who says “yes” but doesn’t have such a job. This would include 100% of the homeless people in your city. That’s a pretty dumb way to measure “unemployment” IMO. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:11 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef ...because you made a random-ass retarded assumption about how it was calculated and quadrupled down and dragged out this subthread wasteland instead of just clicking the link.
"True Rate of Unemployment tracks the percentage of the U.S. labor force that does not have a full-time job (35+ hours a week) but wants one, has no job, or does not earn a living wage, conservatively pegged at $26,000 (in 2025 dollars) annually before taxes." |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:18 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater So it includes people like TT and RSF who neither have nor want a job, 100% of retired people, and the institutionalized. Not sure why you’d think that’s a superior metric for evaluating the impact of AI than the normal BLS statistic, but carry on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909585) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:25 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef it absolutely does not count retired people, as they are not in the LABOR FORCE. pretty sure that also excludes RSFs but even if it doesn't, there aren't many of them. dunno where TT falls in. can't tell what you mean by "institutionalized" but pretty sure they aren't in the labor force either.
is this really EPAH? did you suffer a brain injury? |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 3:42 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater I kind of recognize this form of argumentation. Other monikers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909700) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:13 AM Author: up-to-no-good buff half-breed dood 26k wont even pay for transportation to work for half these people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909576) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:17 AM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus no college grad is working a job for 26k annually in 2026, lol. people would rather just not work and live on welfare or mooch off family or do side hustles or some combination of the above
i mean going off "stats" for this kind of thing is just silly. i'm not even Mr. Social or anything but i talk to enough people in my family/professional/social circles to have an accurate enough grasp of present-day society to know that "6% unemployment for college grads" is just completely ludicrous and would get you laughed out of the room if you told that to somebody irl |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:21 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater It’s a statistic that has been compiled by the same methodology for 50 years. Do you have a superior metric in mind for evaluating the impact of “AI”? More surveys of friends and families from a larger number of posters maybe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909589) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:27 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef again, I already gave two ITT. just admit you didn't know how unemployment is calculated and stop making yourself look dumber (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909596) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:23 AM Author: up-to-no-good buff half-breed i wouldnt work for 26k if you held a gun to my head i dont blame them lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909592) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:28 AM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus yeah i'm just utterly baffled by that number
i'm pretty sure the illegal spics who show up as day labor at job sites around here are pulling over 26k a year |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:30 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef yeah the LISEP people even describe it as "conservatively" estimated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909600) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:31 AM Author: up-to-no-good buff half-breed theyre making triple that lmao. these people poasting above are living in a different decade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909603) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 10:49 AM Author: frozen abnormal travel guidebook "This includes posters who are like, “yeah I want a WFH job that pays $250k, so long as it permits me to also post all day.”"
Are you implying this is unreasonable? |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:48 PM Author: flirting bronze psychic 1800000. Nothing identifies "I am substituting status signals for arguments" faster than leading with a cultural sneer and then immediately citing a government metric as if its definitional choices are self evidently correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909531) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:50 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909535) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:53 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater If we’re going to use a metric to measure whether AI is flame, would you suggest we just use unknown posters’ proclamations about the state of the economy? Or just one particular poster? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909541) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:08 AM Author: flirting bronze psychic Neither. But I can see where you were coming from now. It was more the rhetorical move and the specific stat that I took issue with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909568) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:14 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater Yeah, the BLS methodology has been used for 50 years, so it seems rather better than the metric proposed by the poster I was replying to: “just going off anecdotal experience from interacting in the real world as a member of society” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909577) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:16 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef ok but at least one other poaster suggested better metrics and showed how off-base yours was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909581) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:05 AM Author: up-to-no-good buff half-breed dood the real rate has to be like 60% no way these guys are getting jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909563) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:08 AM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef but but the government says it's 2.8%!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909569) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 9:58 PM Author: Painfully honest office its flame and is useful and will lead to our destruction at some point - pepito (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909352) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 10:05 PM Author: Massive Goal In Life Trust Fund It's pure garbage language model describing garbage search results in the database of garbage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909372) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:18 PM Author: Impressive church building circlehead Flame. Nazca.
It's definitely powerful and has some uses. But, it's also egregiously bad in some ways. Like making things up or making fundamental, foundational errors. It also often fails to grasp the big picture and everything that flows from that. And it's hard to see a path to it doing tasks beyond rote ones, like which details to accept, which to reject, and which to rework in a counter offer.
Also, the AI company valuations are ludicrous in relation to actual or reasonably likely potential earnings. At $1T, Anthropic would be about the 15th highest market cap public company in the world. But there is no reason competitors can't and won't use Anthropic's blueprint to steal their customers, if they ever figure out how to make money in the first place. |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:32 PM Author: violet idiot just wanted to take a moment to thank tommy turdskin, the retired alcoholic pajeet world traveler who hasnt done more than 10 minutes of work since gpt 3.0 was released, to weigh in on cutting edge uses of technology and their applications in the workplace.
ai of course is insanely useful in capable hands (i.e., feeding it proper prompts and context) and if it's not valuable for you you might be a midwit and you dont really matter anyway. if you're exploring a novel issue and you can't find a way to make ai useful for you then i hope you're a woman cuz god help you |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:33 PM Author: Orange cuckoldry liquid oxygen Fucking Fuckface - AI or machine intelligence is going to radically change the world. We're in the last generation of easy and classic socioeconomic mobility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909520) |
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Date: May 31st, 2026 11:45 PM Author: Pearl exhilarant tank place of business it's not flame at all and it will lower the relative market value of a basic coder / corporate writers and artists / etc but it will not result in widespread unemployment in the long term. it will mostly be a complementary technology and smart people with good ideas who otherwise had no path to creating things will be able to start new businesses and hire people etc. but in the short term tech firms will downsize / halt hiring and some saas companies will get seriously fucked which will cause people to think ai will destroy employment and humanity, which is where we are now.
btw i understand that you're defining "flame" in a very specific way here but anyone still asking whether ai is flame more generally is just very divorced from the tech world and a lot of stuff in the corporate world. pharma, so many fields. it has changed a lot of stuff already. |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 5:50 PM Author: copper misanthropic pervert sanctuary I think it will hit 6% college-grad UE by 2030, but
LOL at every AI huckster ITT showing up to bu-bu-but the fucking simple, publicly available metric of college UE--the point of which is not objective/absolute accuracy but relative movement.
You fucking fraud morons. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:06 AM Author: up-to-no-good buff half-breed itll wipe out white collar jobs for sure but the faggots who think youll get robocop serving you 2 dollar big macs are delusional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909565) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:19 AM Author: Soul-stirring bistre university Not flame. I don't think we're getting AGI anytime soon. I don't think it changes the world in the way that going from no internet to all the things the internet has done changes things. But I think it will have a real impact on the economy. I think that it will make companies more efficient. I think it will, with humans as its guide, make people more productive. It will lower the cost of goods worldwide.
I think people think like oh it's a game changer, where is my flying car. That's like saying if you got darpanet in the 80s asking where's my Uber ride? Is it coming tomorrow? Next year? No. It will be a long slow on ramp. But suddenly the years will go by and stuff will crop up. And stuff will be better than people thought it was going to be.
I think of it like the internet for the internet. It's a tool that makes tools more tooly. It's not going to give you a blow job but in 20 years everything will change and be different and it will mostly be good. Humans will adapt. A lot of people will make a shitload of money. Even more people will still be poor.
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Date: June 1st, 2026 3:41 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater Interesting, but just one question: who’s FIN? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909698) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:01 AM Author: frozen abnormal travel guidebook FIN tp, new poaster, first day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909974) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 8:09 AM Author: Painfully honest office "It's not going to give you a blow job"
stopped reading
yes it will |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:38 AM Author: Jade Razzle-dazzle Clown Not flame. It is not intelligent in a philosophically important sense, but it is going to trivialize a lot of work that once served as the foundation for great careers, and people who can use it well are going to be able to accomplish things much more efficiently than before, as with electronic calculators/early computers. Lex |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:38 AM Author: territorial 180 gaming laptop point Not flame. It'll also combine with a bunch of other incredibly destructive trends to make everything even shittier. For example, white collar work was already devalued by globalization so add GenAI stuff on top of that. The globalization still isn't going anywhere and if anything GenAI will keep a lot of prices super low because the guy in India is now desperate to keep the $10/hr instead of being replaced by Claude. Then add networked robots driven by GenAI that will kill a bunch of jobs that always required warm bodies (Amazon warehouse shit, construction jobs, etc.).
I predict that the world is going to get way more dystopian and desperate over the next few decades.
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:41 AM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909618) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 12:46 AM Author: Domesticated twisted school It's not flame. Screen Teen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909620) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 3:47 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909703) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 6:03 AM Author: Drab Trip Community Account Stead It's not fraud and ljl at lamenting the death of some white collar jobs. That's the BEST thing which will come out of AI--we waste an enormous amount of cumulative brainpower doing performative bullshit/make work. The negative aspects are more along the lines of making everyone even more retarded than they already are and creating an infinite sea of BuzzFeed LinkedIn Transformers CGI slop
345 tp, aka, Dr Michael Greger, aka ohnoes, aka 🧐 and many more |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 10:53 AM Author: Impressive church building circlehead Absolutely CR re freeing up brainpower from useless screen comma chasing make work. But, what's all that brainpower going to do?
This is one of the arguments for UBI too: When freed from the need to work for sustenance, people will be free to make art and engage their communities. (For many of us, this means poasting, btw.) In reality, people will probably just scroll and watch Netflix and order deliver slop.
See also: https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4186461&mc=99&forum_id=2#37661389 |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 1:53 PM Author: Drab Trip Community Account Stead who knows. in the ideal path it might boil down to something like reducing jobs to one of the Three True Outcomes: Engineering or Sales (private) or Bureaucrat (public). Everyone whines about the "decline of competency" but a major reason for this is some bro with a 135 IQ is going to go where the money is, and the money sure as hell isn't in being a bureaucrat responsible for snow plow deployment or public pool sanitation or whatever. In the past the pay gap was much narrower between public and private, and the resistance for moving across the country was larger, so there was much more regional competency.
in reality I'm not that optimistic for the public sector returning to its glory days (I think the best we're going to do is AI just straight up reduces the amount of people it requires), but I think the "you're either an Engineer or Salesman, Champ" restructuring in corporations is a pretty realistic path. you're already seeing it in companies using AI as an excuse to cut layers of nonsense managers. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 6:15 AM Author: Ruddy National Security Agency I hate agreeing with you on anything but it is 100% flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909752) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 6:50 AM Author: Lemon field headpube no, but timelines for accretive technologies are often slower than initially thought. you could play 'video games' on an oscilloscope in the 1950's, but 'real' games took a couple of decades to develop and propagate into widespread adoption. 'within 5 years' is usually wrong; within 50 is more plausible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909764) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 9:47 AM Author: Orange cuckoldry liquid oxygen AI is already heavily commercialized. A better comparison would be the NES stage (most homes in America at least being aware of its existence if not actual consumers) or Playstation stage (most homes in America being consumers of some kind of gaming product) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909870) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 10:40 AM Author: Impressive church building circlehead Some say there are still No Games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909933) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 8:29 AM Author: Henna theatre organic girlfriend Its flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909802) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 9:59 AM Author: spectacular silver locus hunting ground The benefits are complete fucking flame. But I predict AI will be a boon to certain top members of certain rentseeking industries. The dystopian nature of are existence will accelerate unabated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909887) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 10:49 AM Author: Impressive church building circlehead To everyone ITT saying "not flame": The OP says, "is this seismic shift coming by 2030." It's not going to. We're not even close to AI replacing a significant portion of white collar screen jobs that require critical thinking skills, and the pace of improvement is going to slow down, not speed up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49909949) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:51 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater Posters can't read for comprehension anymore. Their attention spans have become shit due to watching too much AI TikTok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910824) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 10:58 AM Author: frozen abnormal travel guidebook "(it won’t count if that rate is the result of the bubble bursting and ensuing general economic downturn)."
This is such a kikey condition that ensures you cannot lose. If AI does displace a lot of jobs the cascading effect of that would almost surely lead to a general economic downturn. AI is only "fucking flame" if it leads to massive job displacement but that doesn't count if that massive job displacement causes some general economic downturn, which is what would surely happen?
Under your kikey conditions the answer can only be "fucking flame". Ignoring that, the answer is easily "not flame." AI is like the early internet era. I think it'll be much more important than all the AI skeptics think and less important than the techno futurists think. But anyone who has used AI for just about anything knows it's not "fucking flame."
Bowtie Nigga tp |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:06 AM Author: Impressive church building circlehead He means because the AI bubble bursts and there is an economic downturn resulting from several trillion dollar companies foundering, not an economic collapse because those AI companies are so successful that they replace a bunch of white collar jobs. If the latter happens, the AI companies' stock might still do well in the face of a broader economic downturn.
Fun side fact: Lehman Bros.' peak market cap was $80B. Antrhopic's market cap today is $1T. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:14 AM Author: frozen abnormal travel guidebook Like every major economic event the cause and effects will be debatable. However, AI has already displaced many tech jobs and caused other companies to rethink how many new college grads they should hire. So even some major downturn started tomorrow because of something completely unpredictable like Covid 2.0 AI still have been a big contributor because it's already contributing to economic conditions.
I'm just saying that the economy is a Gordian Knot that's impossible to dissect. IF a downturn happens something will trigger the collapse, but the trigger isn't the collapse; the collapse is how the house of cards was built. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 1:25 PM Author: Hateful Floppy Puppy How about two reputable papers (MIT, Fed Reserve etc.) concluding that most of the 6%+ UE rate for college grads is caused by AI automation. So the UE measure below has to hit 6 and you need two papers.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CGBD25O
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Date: June 1st, 2026 1:32 PM Author: frozen abnormal travel guidebook I think you've missed my point. What I'm saying is that the conditions EPAH invented to be proven right or wrong here are retarded. The fact it's arguable that unemployment for recent college grads was over 6% the day this thread was poasted only highlights what an abortion of a thread this is.
I take no position on what the "real" unemployment rate is. As discussed ad nauseum ITT it's a hard number to pin down. However, like Goy Superstar I live in this world and have anecdotally heard many grads complaining about not being able to find a job, so that number wouldn't surprise me and if I had to guess I'd bet it's accurate.
edit: Oh I misunderstood you, I see now you're proposing an alternative condition.
No, I don't think any unemployment condition is worthwhile. First of all, if society worked properly, AI being legit and obviated a ton of labor we'd wind up in the 20 hr work week Kenyes predicted. If AI is *SUPER* not flame something like this would have to happen or we'd have masses of people that can't provide for themselves. Second, idk how anyone who lived through ITE and LOLSCHOOLS boosting employment numbers by hiring them to work in the library for a semester still has much faith in them.
It would be like saying mechanized farming was "fucking flame" because farmer unemployment isn't skyrocketing. If AI is legit and jobs it can do are obviated those people will have to do something else or some sort of welfare system will have to be created. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 1:25 PM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus yup absolutely terrible thread and performance from OP on an otherwise very interesting topic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910091) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 8:57 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910629) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 12:05 AM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater "If AI does displace a lot of jobs the cascading effect of that would almost surely lead to a general economic downturn."
Interesting statement. The world's smartest businessperson predicts that AI implementation will result in double-digit GDP growth by June 2027: https://www.moomoo.com/news/post/63284418/musk-predicts-double-digit-growth-for-the-us-economy-within?level=1&data_ticket=1780373000121424
GDP growth of 10+% =/= general economic downturn FYI |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 1:34 PM Author: Hateful Floppy Puppy I'll go with flame. Over the past 12-18 months, it hasn't improved in legal research. Corporations seemed to have cooled on its potential to immediately boost productivity.
The UE rate below (UE for college grads 25 and over) touched 5.9% after the '08-09 recession and spiked during covid but has generally been very low. It's 2.8% now.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CGBD25O |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 4:08 PM Author: Marvelous Misunderstood Site Roast Beef U-3 unemployment numbers are retarded. they don't count discouraged workers as part of the workforce (people who haven't actively searched in the last four weeks because they've been trying for god knows how long with no luck). also, they count someone as employed if they've worked even ONE hour in the past week. should we really be counting college grads (or anyone else) as employed if they do a few hours of retail work or freelance work per week? is that really a good representation of how the job market is doing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910245) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 4:42 PM Author: territorial 180 gaming laptop point Right, and it doesn't care if the CS grad is now flipping burgers or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49911464) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 4:41 PM Author: territorial 180 gaming laptop point In-housemo here. It has been invaluable. We're down headcount (like a lot of huge companies) and are cutting outside counsel spend too and AI has basically filled the gap. Stupid time-consuming exercises like "hey, we have a bunch of contracts - we need to know if we can assign them as part of the deal or if we need to terminate them what are the relevant provisions if we go that route" gets reduced massively by AI. Something like "here's our exhibit on whatever, they want to use theirs, how are they different" - you can get an answer basically instantly instead of spending a bunch of time doing a line-by-line side by side. It has removed the dread of a "what does this contract say about x" and then seeing a 300-page contract and like 10 amendments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49911459) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 1:45 PM Author: bateful rose plaza stock car No, it's not flame.
Comparable to the microwave. Most people only use it to reheat leftovers or make popcorn, but it's capable of a lot more.
It's a game changer in healthcare from correcting deafness to helping people walk again and I don't doubt it's just the tip of the iceberg. Future generations are going to be screened by AI from birth, which will help you plan your health and fitness to a fine science.
It's also going to majorly transform our defense industries and how we wage wars and stealth diplomacy.
Every industry is incorporating AI in multiple forms and capacity. Some will deliver more benefits. Some is just to keep competitive with no real net gains. But overall there will be greater efficiency and productivity, which will generate further opportunities.
AI will also (I hope) tone down the bitter cultural divides when people ask AI questions on history and culture and current events. The safetyism in AI has been criticized but so far it's been evenhanded, nudging both extremes towards a more moderate middle, that, frankly, has impressed me with its pragmatism.
On a personal level, using AI makes me smarter. I talk to AI all time time, asking questions about everything from little DIY to historical debates to managing people at work and how to handle family matters. But it is contingent on understanding how to use AI. Gut instinct tells me AI will make the top 10% wealthier and introduce a sharper divide between the top 10% and the next cohort. It will be neutral for the 20-40% bracket, and will make the bottom 60% fall further behind. If you want to stay in the top 10%, you need to figure out how to make AI relevant in your life. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:50 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater Excellent longpost, ty. I agree that AI is fun and useful for DIY projects. But can you state your flame/not-flame prediction on the measure stated in my OP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910823) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 3:12 PM Author: chrome theater Not flame but I don’t even know how to interpret your 6% unemployment number. Jim_Kelly tp
I think it’s just another tech advancement, like desktop, internet, notebook computers, email, mobile. It will fundamentally change things particularly in white collar world. My firm (V50) is already hiring less. I’m personally using junior associates way fucking less because AI does the same work faster and for free.
But we’re not all moving to UBI or whatever technonerds think. AI absolutely needs someone trained and with judgment to interpret and filter what it spits out.
EPAH’s and others’ flame responses are likely from dealing with clients, etc. sending AI slop or small personal dalliances in it. Garbage in, garbage out. With careful prompting, it gives you at least junior/mid-level associate work product in minutes, which is amazing. Stupid to think that it won’t get better because it has, remarkably, in just a few years. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 8:16 PM Author: flirting bronze psychic I don't think UBI has to arrive in the technonerd sense people imagine. The reality will be much more boring and also will come much more quickly than people imagine. The standard narrative which goes something like AGI arrives, humans become economically obsolete, then UBI appears is obviously a fantasy. What will likely happen is automation gradually reduces demand for certain cognitive labor, employers become increasingly selective, people who are already near the edge of labor market viability get pushed out first. Then at that point the existing disability and welfare systems continually absorb shock and become overloaded because many displaced people are not actually "disabled" or in need of whatever other social welfare systems exist, so a new category emerges. It will probably first be called something like "workforce transition income" or "automation adjustment benefits" or some other politically acceptable term for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910563) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 12:19 AM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910831) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:52 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater Wait Josh_Allen tp is Jim_Kelly tp? 180. Update on Asian wife project? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910825) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 1:01 PM Author: chrome theater Going strong! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49911189) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 4:44 PM Author: territorial 180 gaming laptop point That's exactly it - it kills junior anything, whether it is coder, lawyer, research assistants, etc. People on this board are senior at this point so we're more likely to benefit from it than be killed by it, but for younger people early in their career it is basically the apocalypse and unlike ITE which was temporary, this is here to stay and only going to make things harder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49911470) |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 7:45 PM Author: Hairraiser rambunctious crackhouse It's flame, but lots of people have jobs that are total flame. So it will have an impact in jerbs, etc.
This is former poaster, Candy Ride. |
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Date: June 1st, 2026 11:53 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater We know you here as "ZZZ," so just say that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49910827) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2026 11:13 AM Author: Hairraiser rambunctious crackhouse Also known as ZZZ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49912707) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 4:45 PM Author: harsh mint keepsake machete foreskin The way it's being deployed right now is flame, but "AI" has real utility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49911472) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 4:50 PM Author: Passionate dilemma giraffe Flame. Total flame. Para Mo.
It's basically a distilled Google search [or any other database], and that can be useful sometimes. But that doesn't make it "intelligent" on its own--it still needs humans to advance/create the knowledge it depends on. And the output it currently spits out can barely contextualize anything.
Unfortunately, while it's flame, it will empower billions of clueless people to "feel" and "act" more intelligent than they really are, and that includes corporate CEOs. |
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Date: June 2nd, 2026 5:20 PM Author: Electric geriatric sweet tailpipe Where can I place my bet on above 6%? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49911526) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2026 2:21 PM Author: appetizing fuchsia volcanic crater autoadmit.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49913135) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2026 11:22 AM Author: know-it-all overrated tanning salon windowlicker NVIDIA releasing RTX Spark targeting local LLM compute seems to point to a bubble with Cloud Data Center AI expansion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49912710) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2026 2:31 PM Author: Beady-eyed Deranged Potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870330&forum_id=2,5#49913167) |