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Product management--what the fuck is this flame and how do I get a job doing it?

Do you need a degree in CS or EE to cop a gig like this? Or ...
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
It's 100% flame you can talk your way into.
Fear-inspiring Glittery Shrine Digit Ratio
  10/19/16
Not flame? Seems like a decent paying gig.
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
you get paid to be yelled at 24/7 to meet unrealistic deadli...
Doobsian kitty
  10/19/16
What do you have to deliver by your "deadline"? Wh...
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
well, if you're a shitty PM when the project is late you bla...
Doobsian kitty
  10/19/16
YES but what the fuck do you DO? What service do your provid...
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
You're basically a middle man between devs and HR/management
Fear-inspiring Glittery Shrine Digit Ratio
  10/19/16
you take the specifications from the customers and you bring...
Ultramarine out-of-control ticket booth
  10/19/16
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sepia spot circlehead
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pink cerebral stage potus
  06/11/26
you figure out what features shoudl be in your product (base...
nudist business firm indirect expression
  10/19/16
Doesn't actually seem like a bad job.
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
it ranges. at the grunt level you are a project manager and ...
nudist business firm indirect expression
  10/19/16
I'm assuming they make decent money too
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
genrealyl slightly less or similar as a good developer d...
nudist business firm indirect expression
  10/19/16
How would one transition into this kind of work ? Like what...
Dashing shimmering national security agency
  10/19/16
most common - programming or MBA. you can get into it from d...
nudist business firm indirect expression
  10/19/16
Did you have a law background at all?
Dashing shimmering national security agency
  10/19/16
It's not bad considering that PM's know literally nothing an...
Fear-inspiring Glittery Shrine Digit Ratio
  10/19/16
I know a bro who went from a product counsel at a tech compa...
Ocher appetizing dopamine menage
  10/19/16
They like to see certs on your resume. Pmi.
Adulterous point
  10/19/16
What kind of certs?
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
Project management institute comes up a lot. Spill over to l...
Adulterous point
  10/19/16
Okay so basically just bullshit and not like learning code o...
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
Yeah, these are not stem types. More like biz Mgmt.
Adulterous point
  10/19/16
you just manage products and tell them what to do bro. occas...
nudist business firm indirect expression
  10/19/16
So basically you just crack the whip on the code spergs?
curious friendly grandma
  10/19/16
A lot of people with general business degrees in it, anythin...
galvanic property tank
  10/19/16
ur thinking of project management product mgmt is differe...
nudist business firm indirect expression
  10/19/16
Lol I did the same thing.
Adulterous point
  10/19/16


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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:11 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

Do you need a degree in CS or EE to cop a gig like this? Or is it more sales/business/research oriented?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679381)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:12 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Glittery Shrine Digit Ratio

It's 100% flame you can talk your way into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679386)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

Not flame? Seems like a decent paying gig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679408)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:18 PM
Author: Doobsian kitty

you get paid to be yelled at 24/7 to meet unrealistic deadlines and deal with ornery software developers and make barely 10-15% more than they do.

IMHO not worth it as a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679426)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:19 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

What do you have to deliver by your "deadline"? What's the BOTTOM LINE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679440)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: Doobsian kitty

well, if you're a shitty PM when the project is late you blame the team. 'You' don't technically have to deliver anything but a project plan and status reports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679447)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:23 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

YES but what the fuck do you DO? What service do your provide to your company?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679464)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Glittery Shrine Digit Ratio

You're basically a middle man between devs and HR/management

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679476)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:29 PM
Author: Ultramarine out-of-control ticket booth

you take the specifications from the customers and you bring them down to the software engineers. you deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679511)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: sepia spot circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#49930447)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: white motley nowag electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#49930527)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: pink cerebral stage potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#49930554)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: nudist business firm indirect expression

you figure out what features shoudl be in your product (based on customer interviews, market research, competitive reseach etc)

you plan out how those features should be implemented, and work with your programmers and other teams to make it happen

you also figure out how your product should be marketed and priced (based on market research, nubmer crunching etc)

at the high level, you figure out strategic product direction, like what you should be making, what it should look/feel like, etc. (jonathan ive/apple type)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679496)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:32 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

Doesn't actually seem like a bad job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679527)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:35 PM
Author: nudist business firm indirect expression

it ranges. at the grunt level you are a project manager and just run around pushing people for updates and deadlines etc.

it can be really boring/stupid too. at the jr level you are developing spec docs that say "and when you click this button on the website it brings you to this page. if you click this other button it brings you to this other page"

at the mid/sr level its more interesting as you are more involved in setting direction of the product (3 of our competitors have xyz feature, so we will build it, or we will not build it because we think abc feature is more compelling and will get us more users, etc etc)

at the very sr level as with all jobs it's pretty good but stressful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679554)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:50 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

I'm assuming they make decent money too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679668)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:53 PM
Author: nudist business firm indirect expression

genrealyl slightly less or similar as a good developer

depends on the type of company too - if you are at a traditional enterprise software company, you'll make significnatly less. at goog you will make more as they require pms to be former developers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679701)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:54 PM
Author: Dashing shimmering national security agency

How would one transition into this kind of work ? Like what's the job you take before you become a PM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679715)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 4:04 PM
Author: nudist business firm indirect expression

most common - programming or MBA. you can get into it from design, marketing, operations, project management type roles as well. really if you work at a startup and are smart/capable you'll touch/influence the product at some point. that's how i got into it.

you can also get hired directly out of college but those are usualyl the gruntwork type roles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679805)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: Dashing shimmering national security agency

Did you have a law background at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679818)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:22 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Glittery Shrine Digit Ratio

It's not bad considering that PM's know literally nothing and are often times actual retards. Everyone in tech who isn't actual talent should be grateful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679456)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: Ocher appetizing dopamine menage

I know a bro who went from a product counsel at a tech company and then pivoted into being a product manager and he's now a director.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679450)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:22 PM
Author: Adulterous point

They like to see certs on your resume. Pmi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679458)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

What kind of certs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679482)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: Adulterous point

Project management institute comes up a lot. Spill over to lean six sigma mumbo jumbo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679494)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:31 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

Okay so basically just bullshit and not like learning code or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679522)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:37 PM
Author: Adulterous point

Yeah, these are not stem types. More like biz Mgmt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679572)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: nudist business firm indirect expression

you just manage products and tell them what to do bro. occasionalyl you have to discipline or fire one and it gets to be a pain but otherwise pretty chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679478)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: curious friendly grandma

So basically you just crack the whip on the code spergs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679485)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: galvanic property tank

A lot of people with general business degrees in it, anything from "business administration" or finance/accounting/econ or MBAs and other grad types.

The job is just babysitting a project. You don't really do actual work. You check with other groups who do the actual work to make sure they're doing it and let everyone know where everyone else is.

Basically everyone hates you because you are constantly pinging them for updates ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679495)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: nudist business firm indirect expression

ur thinking of project management

product mgmt is different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679506)



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Date: October 19th, 2016 3:38 PM
Author: Adulterous point

Lol I did the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3391818&forum_id=2/#31679579)