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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
startled pocket flask
  06/18/24
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floppy smoky corn cake son of senegal
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lascivious spot
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
very tactful garrison
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
arrogant juggernaut site
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
garnet supple hunting ground
  06/18/24
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Crawly hairraiser field incel
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
Bull headed orchestra pit
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
Bull headed orchestra pit
  06/19/24
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Harsh Therapy Shrine
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
Coiffed boistinker
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
Electric fuchsia ticket booth
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
Nubile house knife
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
startled pocket flask
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Scarlet university gunner
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Harsh Therapy Shrine
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lascivious spot
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hideous pearly new version black woman
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
jet duck-like plaza roast beef
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
Nubile house knife
  06/18/24
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Deranged step-uncle's house feces
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
Arousing love of her life associate
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
alcoholic contagious ceo
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
beady-eyed corner gaping
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
alcoholic contagious ceo
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
beady-eyed corner gaping
  06/20/24
both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make ...
.,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..
  09/01/26
Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking t...
Richard Ames
  09/01/26
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
Flickering ocher immigrant
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
Deranged step-uncle's house feces
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
Nubile house knife
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
Deranged step-uncle's house feces
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
tan useless brakes
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
Flickering ocher immigrant
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
tan useless brakes
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
Cerebral rigor
  06/19/24
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angry kitty cat principal's office
  06/19/24
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Bull headed orchestra pit
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
Crawly hairraiser field incel
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
Walnut Ungodly Partner Sweet Tailpipe
  06/20/24
I’m gay
Hateful razzle-dazzle clown boltzmann
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
charcoal impressive dog poop senate
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
Passionate internal respiration keepsake machete
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/19/24
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clear judgmental hall marketing idea
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
arrogant juggernaut site
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
Bull headed orchestra pit
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
Bull headed orchestra pit
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
crusty thriller sanctuary
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
Crawly hairraiser field incel
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
Vibrant Degenerate Property
  06/20/24
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Deranged step-uncle's house feces
  06/21/24
then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems li...
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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: startled pocket flask

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: floppy smoky corn cake son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: lascivious spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: very tactful garrison

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: arrogant juggernaut site

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: garnet supple hunting ground

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Crawly hairraiser field incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Bull headed orchestra pit

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Bull headed orchestra pit

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Harsh Therapy Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: Coiffed boistinker

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Electric fuchsia ticket booth

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: Nubile house knife

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: startled pocket flask

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: Scarlet university gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Harsh Therapy Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: lascivious spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: hideous pearly new version black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: jet duck-like plaza roast beef

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: Nubile house knife

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: Deranged step-uncle's house feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: Arousing love of her life associate

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: alcoholic contagious ceo

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: beady-eyed corner gaping

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: alcoholic contagious ceo

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: beady-eyed corner gaping

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764303)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:53 PM
Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..


both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make any sense obviously. may as well make davey scitino be made of liquid metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#50109176)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking to Big Ton'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#50109200)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: Flickering ocher immigrant

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: Deranged step-uncle's house feces

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: Nubile house knife

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: Deranged step-uncle's house feces

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: tan useless brakes

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: Flickering ocher immigrant

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: tan useless brakes

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: Cerebral rigor

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: angry kitty cat principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: Bull headed orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: Crawly hairraiser field incel

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Walnut Ungodly Partner Sweet Tailpipe

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: Hateful razzle-dazzle clown boltzmann

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: charcoal impressive dog poop senate

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: Passionate internal respiration keepsake machete

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: clear judgmental hall marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: arrogant juggernaut site

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Bull headed orchestra pit

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: Bull headed orchestra pit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: crusty thriller sanctuary

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Crawly hairraiser field incel

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: Vibrant Degenerate Property

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: Deranged step-uncle's house feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#47766116)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..


then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems like a waste of effort?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/#50109169)