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Pretty clear that Iran has escalation dominance
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:30 AM Author: comical metal den Trump resorting to lies that he didn't know about the Israeli attack to beg Iran to stop bombing the Qatar LNG refinery. Looks like Iran might end up cutting side deals with the rest of the world and the US just has to sit and take it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754604) |
Date: March 19th, 2026 8:32 AM Author: Exhilarant Ivory Locus Not sure how trump didn't predict that Iran would use the only advantage it had (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754611) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:36 AM Author: exciting federal water buffalo It's obvious that the plan was to decapitate the leadership and the hope was Iran would collapse. It's why Trump was telling the Iranian people to rise up right after the initial strikes. If that didn't work, Trump probably thought he could broker a ceasefire, but Iran can just say no. In modern missile and drone warfare, offense beats defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754618) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:38 AM Author: fantasy-prone corner multi-billionaire it’s very unfair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754622) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:42 AM Author: painfully honest dopamine jap “Why won’t the country whose leader I just predator missiled negotiate in good faith with me!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754632) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:48 AM Author: fantasy-prone corner multi-billionaire I think they’re more upset the US deliberately targeted that girl’s school. twice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754644) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:53 AM Author: painfully honest dopamine jap I don’t think the top brass GAF about the girls’ school though they may care about their perceived aura loss in the eyes of the international community if they were seen not to care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754658) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:54 AM Author: Motley school cafeteria trust fund Wow you're a high IQ mind reader! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754977) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:18 AM Author: Peach headpube yarmulke nobody apart from CNN and NPR gives any fucks whatsoever about that school the Iranian regime cares about their power and their money and nothing else |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:50 AM Author: passionate drunken casino voyeur i think the mullahs care about the survival of the iranian polity i read a lot of SL kho and kha's talks and speeches and what not to get a feel for them and their priorities and it'd be hard to say that they don't care about the iranian peoples. khameini in particular had a particular vision for the country that it doesn't seem like they had a broad enough coalition to enervate the population into carrying out. liberalizations periodically occurring over the last decade or two have made it clear that there's some bowing to democratic or common sentiments. the thing that confuses secularized western observers is just that they care just as much about shia islam and islam in general as they do about certain aspects of the polity |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:47 AM Author: passionate drunken casino voyeur yeah hard strikes were a really bad option and i suspect that straight up diapering and soft (and politically justified, maybe) sabotage at the CIA and NSA probably limited their options to that the US repeatedly time and time again overestimates their good will/moral authority in these middle eastern countries and it is disheartening to see the same mistakes made back in the Iran-Iraq war still being made decades later the Anglosphere's ability to use the military to succesfully make in-roads into the culture of a nation died shortly after the Malayan Emergency |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:43 AM Author: Exhilarant Ivory Locus Insane he thought that a bunch of street protesters would be able to take control of a government full of unhinged fanatics who now have no reason not to massacre anyone who rises up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754634) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:01 AM Author: Fragrant Flickering Circlehead Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754683) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:36 AM Author: Provocative translucent filthpig chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754744) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:12 AM Author: adventurous gunner resort Even for Trump this is a preposterous notion. Assume for a second the Israelis spent the last 8 months planning for and equipping an internal resistance force that they always expected to fight the regime after Israel softened it up via an air campaign. How would that scenario look different from what is currently happening on the ground in Iran after 3 weeks of the war? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754704) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:21 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754719) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:50 AM Author: big pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754649) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:21 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy im not sure how someone can believe this after iraq et al (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754722) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:55 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness I'm curious how he makes decisions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754664) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:27 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat see my poast below. it's one of those two.
and when it's actually him deciding, he goes with his gut/instinct. that's worked out a lot before, but if that's at play here, he got it very wrong. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:26 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat he's either being straight up told what to do by israel despite the disastrous consequences for the US and world (because they are blackmailing him), or he legit has no advisors around him who know wtf they're talking about and he's listening to former podcasters and fox news retards.
either way, this isn't good. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:30 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy it's always been mostly #2. im sure you run into people that work in or close to the admin who can give first hand accounts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754901) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:34 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat i strongly suspect blackmail. this entire admin has been israel-focused, and it just doesn't make sense that he went to war with iran because he got bad advice. it's possible (and if that's the case, he got hoodwinked into thinking we could venezuela them) but i really think there's coercion at play here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754912) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:43 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy i don't think so.
first, i dont think its within trumps capacity to be blackmailed. he's stubborn and outspoken and has never shied away from controversy. and he just denies until he dies. what could they have thats any worse than his prior shit? even if they had epstein island vid of him fucking kids while holding their birth certificate and that days paper, he'd deny it.
second, he's been an israel dickrider forever. occams razor is that he's still an israel dickrider. he spent much of the campaign criticizing biden for not supporting israel enough. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:56 AM Author: Wine mind-boggling point I don't even think it's blackmail in the traditional sense. They tried to kill him during the campaign and almost certainly said "side with us and your family gets rich, go against us and you die." They probably threatened to kill his family, too.
I assume they thought they'd be rid of him after Term 1's constant lawfare / Russiagate bullshit and then the endless lawfare after the 2020 "election." But he wouldn't go away. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:59 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat i think that's highly likely. i don't necessarily agree with gunner's take. trump has had fairly good instincts overall but lately has just been a disaster. and yea he's always been an israel boomertard, but this entire term has been something else, just out of this world.
above all, trump cares about his legacy. it's quite a gamble to go to war with iran and think it'll go smoothly and be short. at this point, unless something huge breaks, trump is going to go down in history as one of the worst presidents we've had. if he legitimately got here through his own poor decisionmaking, then jesus christ lol. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:09 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy kushner is one of the main architects of the war, has been married to ivanka since 2009, and had key roles in the first administration. to believe trump is compromised would mean israel has had a gun to his head a decade before he got into politics.
yes, this is an escalation from his previous stuff. so is ICE, tariffs, and many other things. i think it's more likely trump is simply more effective and doing stuff he lkterally campaigned on (dickriding isrsel, not going to war with iran per se) because he has more political capital and experience.
and again, its hard to even fathom what they could have on yrump to make him do something he wouldn't do otherwise. and also, he's just one man, he still needs buy in from many others. they can't all be compromised or agents of israel. hegseth, vance etc are real people just like tdnw and sealclubber. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:18 AM Author: Wine mind-boggling point To be fair, people have argued that Israel may have actually worked to help get him elected in 2016, not Russia. So maybe the rot goes further back than we'd (I'd) like to admit.
It just seems pretty dramatic to go from 2015 - 2020 Trump to the guy we're dealing with today and think "nah he's always been this way." Add-in all of his historical statements over the decades and it just seems unreal. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:27 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy he flip flops on stuff constantly. he's always been inconsistent.
how would israel have "got him elected." did they trick you into voting for him? no, you supported him because you supported what he said. maybe if he was some kamala type that got forcememed by institutions despite low popular enthusiasm, but trump was the exact opposite: institutions ran a full court press against him his entire political career. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:34 AM Author: trip fear-inspiring rehab selfie no country is better at ad tech and systematic targeting of large populations with propaganda. russia is close but israel has huge stores of legal and illegal personal information for americans and uses it for increasingly precise propaganda targeting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49755147) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:42 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy are you and all the people who voted for trump victims of propaganda? or did you just intelligently make a decision based on the information you had?
one of the best things about trump is how he's unabashedly himself and tweets directly without concern for political correctness. i don't even see how his success could have been facilitated by propangda. i don't see how a propagandist could rein him in. and in any case, he's been a victim of biased reporting from all sides his entire career, so how is there even evidence of favoring him to the point it's responsible for his success? |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: Wine mind-boggling point Is your core argument that Trump's current actions are totally normal for him? And that this term is what we should have expected based on all prior behavior?
Honestly if that is the case then please give me the Fell For It Again award. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 2:27 PM Author: bearded ocher therapy im saying that it aligns enough that it's probably the case and speculating about kompromat is unjustified.
im not some lib gloating about "haha told you so!" it was reasonable to hope that he'd stay out because of his antiwar rhetoric and first term. i did. but i also knew he is erratic, dabbles in neocon boomerisms, and has been an honorary jew for decades. so, im disappointed, but im not so suprised that im searching for reasons in blackmail conspiracy theories. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:12 AM Author: Wine mind-boggling point It's all just profoundly disappointing to anyone who supported him back in 2015 / 2016. Just brutal.
I just don't see how it isn't directly related to a threat on his life given that he has been consistent for decades in his statements around what he actually wants for America. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:46 AM Author: titillating idiot we clearly didnt expect the retaliatory attacks on xo infrastructure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754640) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:50 AM Author: fantasy-prone corner multi-billionaire rach should send Paralegal Mohammed as special envoy to negotiate a cease to Iranian hacker attacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754648) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:50 AM Author: big pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754650) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:59 AM Author: hot onyx internal respiration business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754674) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:21 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754723) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:30 AM Author: bipolar marvelous nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754736) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:36 AM Author: Provocative translucent filthpig chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754745) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:24 AM Author: Tripping snowy hominid pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49755098) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: Amber stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49756082) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2026 7:59 PM Author: spectacular irate queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49763734) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:52 AM Author: lake vigorous place of business XO gives Iran way too much credit they are going to have to concede or keep getting hit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754655) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:53 AM Author: fantasy-prone corner multi-billionaire these are Muslims. they don’t care about getting hit as long as they’re making the west suffer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754659) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:55 AM Author: lake vigorous place of business They're going to care at some point guess it will take longer then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754665) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:55 AM Author: exciting federal water buffalo Yeah, we can keep pounding them with bombs, drones, missiles, etc., but that's not going to cripple the global economy. Iran bombing gulf energy infrastructure, preventing tankers from traversing the strait, etc. will cripple the global economy. Trump needs this to wrap up by summer, but Iran can keep it going until the US says fuck it and goes home. Trump has the watch, but Iran has the time. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:57 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness Cr. It's a very different task invading, overthrowing, and occupying vs. defending your home. If only we had a recent example of a more powerful country unexpectedly getting bogged down in a many years long war after underestimating the target of their invasion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754669) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:55 AM Author: heady puce hospital I’m going to give you a not so secret pro tip. Trump lacks—because he and his team have systematically dismantled it this past year—a credible decision-making apparatus with domain expertise. He has surrounded himself with yes men bros and fearful sycophantic suck offs. That wild eyed sense you and I have that he is making decisions by the seat of his pants based on bad or no information with no critical decision-making process? It’s actually like that. And unfortunately, given his position as commander in chief, that means we can stumble into things like an active escalating foreign conflict. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754666) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:58 AM Author: lake vigorous place of business You don't know anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754670) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:58 AM Author: heady puce hospital I know this precisely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754672) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:59 AM Author: lake vigorous place of business No you don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754676) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:00 AM Author: heady puce hospital Yes, I do. Remember that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754681) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 8:59 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness It does feel like the most impactful decisions are being made by people who do not give a single fuck about the entire country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754675) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:00 AM Author: heady puce hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754682) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:16 AM Author: exciting federal water buffalo Nah, all military engagements are gambles no matter how much you plan, etc. In this case, the gamble was that the combined strikes by the US+Israel would cause the Iranian state to *politically* collapse, that is to say the Iranian leadership would throw in the towel despite not being militarily & materially beaten. But if they don't politically collapse, then you have to defeat them militarily (i.e. beat them so that they can no longer resist or retaliate to the point the political leadership collapses or surrenders). Trump took a gamble that they could hit them hard and decisively enough that they would politically collapse/give in. That initial gamble didn't work so now there's effectively a boat race where Trump is betting on the US+Israel can degrade the Iranian state faster than Iran can blow up the global economy. Who will win? Time will tell. |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:35 AM Author: walnut hairraiser mother Hijacking the world economy will involve the troika of Iran, Russia, and China-- say goodbye to western dominance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754741) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:55 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness This is such an idiotic post.
How much of our and Israel's resources over the last 50 years have been devoted to gathering intelligence on Iran? The idea that we just didn't have the right info to accurately gauge Iran's political, social and/or military resilience is absolute nonsense. But even assuming you're right, do you think we should start wars with such limited intelligence to have no way of accurately anticipating the fallout? |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:19 AM Author: exciting federal water buffalo what specifically is "idiotic" about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754870) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:24 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness see the second paragraph of my post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754881) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:25 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy dude even with perfect intelligence the outcome is unknown. it's a gamble, like a coin flip. i know there's two sides but i can't say how it'll land. it's really no one's fault and we shouldn't judge too harshly when people take calculated risks. let's all just move on ok, we can chalk it up to fate but its silly to point fingers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754885) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:34 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness These things happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754913) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:47 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy he's only human. every potus gets us involved in some unpopular conflict in the middle east. hey man, you can't make a cake without breaking some eggs, ya know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754951) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:53 AM Author: histrionic honey-headed messiness the fact that he only started 1 middle east war in 2 terms is actually pretty impressive and should be celebrated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754972) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:55 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy cr. this war is probably gonna end in a week or two. but if something unprecedented happens like this becoming a prolonged quagmire that spills out into the rest of the region, he's still batting above average for a two term potus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754982) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:29 AM Author: bearded ocher therapy no way its all fake news, all those former officials and staffers who have said exactly this are just butthurt libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754732) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:07 AM Author: adventurous gunner resort The weird hole in the “Iran will win via an indefinite war of attrition” take is the assumption that Israel did nothing after last summer to prepare for an armed insurrection by the anti-regime resistance on the ground (ie the side that has 80+% popular support) even though it revealed it had deep intel penetration through out the security forces. Basij aren’t getting paid right now and that’s not going to change any time soon. And they aren’t used to/trained to fight against an armed population, let alone an opposition that has any kind of special forces coordination/intel, logistics and air support. It seems very likely that the Basij sustain losses in the 10s or 100s of 1000s before the end of the summer, and mass abandonment/defection decimates their internal security/suppression apparatus. And if that happens the regime is toast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754693) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:21 AM Author: Peach headpube yarmulke I really hope you're right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754877) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 3:56 PM Author: Zippy gaming laptop The problem is there is little organization for an anti-regime insurrection, let alone an armed one. And the internet shut down makes it harder to organize. Mass defection would need to happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49756004) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 9:13 AM Author: Jet-lagged ebony office the only dominance Iran has is that the US has an absolute buffoon making decisions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754706) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:14 AM Author: vivacious gaping abode Did people really think Iran would just go belly up after a few air strikes? This is the same people that fought Iraq, a technologically and materially superior opponent, for 10 years at enormous cost. They have zero reason whatsoever to give in as they know the Israeli states of America will just come back again later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754856) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:30 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat "Did people really think Iran would just go belly up after a few air strikes?"
that appears to have been the entirety of our war strategy. pretty ballsy move! |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:56 AM Author: Motley school cafeteria trust fund Who thinks Netanyahu is still alive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754986) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: Fragrant Flickering Circlehead Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754988) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:31 AM Author: Motley school cafeteria trust fund Anyone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49755140) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 10:58 AM Author: Chocolate talented mental disorder A lot of retarded analysis ITT. it's blatantly obvious the disastrous launch of the Big Arch forced his hand here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49754995) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:00 AM Author: fantasy-prone corner multi-billionaire https://x.com/quadcarl/status/2034295646606225537?s=46 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49755008) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:40 AM Author: Motley school cafeteria trust fund Who thinks Netanyahu is still alive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49755168) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 11:45 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat it's hard to believe he's dead and they're putting out AI videos (and even including mike huckabee in the coverup), but it would be 180 if true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49755200) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: big pozpig it is hard to believe this. but if he's not, why keep him off camera, and go through the trouble of huckabee making an AI video for PR purposes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49757087) |
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Date: March 20th, 2026 10:39 AM Author: Citrine 180 toilet seat maybe they're leaning into the death rumors and doing this on purpose. some kind of kike misdirection so that when he does emerge later totally alive they can dismiss other speculation as "more insane conspiracy theory talk, like when people said we were hiding bibi's death haha" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5847359&forum_id=2/#49757174) |
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Date: March 19th, 2026 4:06 PM Author: Lavender hall macaca the US just has to sit and take it.
Does that make sense to you? You don't see any way the US could intervene?
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