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The best move would probably be to make it illegal to loan a...
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Our society is completely broken. There are too many people ...
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  03/23/26
I have a prole co-worker who wants to buy a 2008 BMW with li...
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  03/23/26
zhe will spend $5000 fixing random oil leaks and then the oi...
multi-colored ratface chapel
  03/24/26
the system is kind of fucked, but this extreme shittiness is...
well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut
  03/23/26
Aren’t you literally poor? Like you make $50k or somet...
wonderful hall
  03/23/26
no i make 0k
well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut
  03/23/26
are you independently wealthy? how do you live? do you stil...
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he lives on a diet of semen and ground up nintendo cartridge...
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I am your better, champ
well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut
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You ain’t shit, u bald fag
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cr. the basic necessities of life are too expensive on even ...
startled whorehouse idiot
  03/24/26
just cap interest rates at whatever we decide is usury. this...
Mind-boggling Indian Lodge Brethren
  03/24/26
there's just too much information out there that allows the ...
startled whorehouse idiot
  03/24/26
automakers offer below market rates as incentives all the ti...
Mind-boggling Indian Lodge Brethren
  03/24/26
Totally agree. Access to credit drives up prices IMO. Less a...
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  03/24/26
stop it. the dealers of those vehicles (who have a monopoly ...
Talented weed whacker
  03/24/26
Yes, you need to negotiate all dealer add-ons to zero to get...
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I love you and we’re great friends but I’m tryin...
startled whorehouse idiot
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if you cap interest rates then average payments will go down...
Mind-boggling Indian Lodge Brethren
  03/24/26
was it a GT?
Talented weed whacker
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I googled that Car and it's not expensive so what's going on...
well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut
  03/23/26
She is Stupid and probably bought it with her Scumbag boyfri...
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Almost certain that she traded in a previous car that she wa...
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When I was extremely poor I just took after the uberproles a...
well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut
  03/23/26
my first car cost me $300 and I drove it for two years.
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Mine cost 800 and it was still running 5 years later when I ...
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  03/24/26
you guys are like retarded boomers who talk about buying hom...
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We're old here dummy. XO is woke to the fraud economy, it's ...
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nah i'm not that retarded lol. i bought an early 2000s GMC S...
irradiated henna nursing home
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I have a Scumbag friend that does this. I don’t think ...
cracking national circlehead
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How is this possible it's a 25k car
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I kept thinking this was the thing that they call the Stinge...
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OYT what are you even talking about. this is such a liberal ...
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You just want the Top Technocrats exploiting them and not Ku...
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It’s the same size as his beloved stinger
well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut
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But with MUCH slower depreciation
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I put 120k miles on the Stinger before I got rid of it. It w...
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Why doesn't the Czar build cars in Russia?
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I'm not against blaming proles but most of America doesn't h...
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Yeah, but 95% of the time the problem is that the proles buy...
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there are no more $5000 cars. the cheap used cars we grew u...
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This is true. These days you need $12,000 minimum for a comp...
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Yes, and do note that proles end up paying way more per mont...
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Your retarded.itwrally thousands of cars like this for sale....
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that's a vehicle that has been in an accident and is likely ...
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It took about 15 seconds to find the below listing and there...
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you're talking about a nearly 15 year old car. that's a dec...
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You're using old boomer logic from back when cars were unrel...
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Plenty of $15k and below cars out there. Not even total piec...
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Yeah, this is nonsense. Cars were not materially more reliab...
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I understand your point. But people's incomes have also rise...
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how the fuck is a "student" buying a car in the fi...
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Date: March 21st, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address

An $830-a-month car payment. Auto insurance for $280 each month. Thousands more for tire and maintenance repairs.

For almost three years, those bills have followed Davine Greene, a nursing student who hasn’t missed or been late on a payment since buying her Kia K5 GT in November 2023. But keeping up with the payments has driven up her debt to more than $80,000, not including student loans.

Last week, she filed for bankruptcy to escape the burden, she said.

“This car is the bane of my existence,” said Ms. Greene, 24, who lives in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “Probably the worst decision I’ve ever made, like, financially speaking.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/16/business/car-ownership-prices-interest-rates.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49760411)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:32 PM
Author: bateful lay tattoo

Bane?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765555)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:59 PM
Author: canary hominid really tough guy

Bane Consulting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765968)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764030)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

The best move would probably be to make it illegal to loan any real amount of money to most people. Imagine declaring bankruptcy because you decided to buy a Kia K5. lol just wtf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764032)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: wonderful hall

Our society is completely broken. There are too many people like this, who can afford basically nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764038)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address

I have a prole co-worker who wants to buy a 2008 BMW with like 160,000 miles. It looks like shit and will undoubtedly have all sorts of expensive maintenance issues, but she wants it because it's a BMW ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764044)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:33 PM
Author: multi-colored ratface chapel

zhe will spend $5000 fixing random oil leaks and then the oil will come out the rust holes and her pussy anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765557)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:13 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

the system is kind of fucked, but this extreme shittiness is the only reason why anyone does anything. if you didn't have some acquaintance who bombed OCI and self-treated with opiates or whose entire working career is dedicated to paying for Cars to drive to work, you wouldn't be happy as a clam with what should otherwise be considered mediocre life outcomes. you're a Non-Equity Partner probably but you're still like "i maed it." even if you have Equity still you'd be like "wow Im Gen X and not homeless. far out!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764053)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:39 PM
Author: wonderful hall

Aren’t you literally poor? Like you make $50k or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764111)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:48 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

no i make 0k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764130)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:21 PM
Author: wonderful hall

are you independently wealthy? how do you live? do you still poast on jd underground?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765515)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:47 PM
Author: heady cordovan location

he lives on a diet of semen and ground up nintendo cartridges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765604)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 5:16 PM
Author: wonderful hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766008)



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Date: March 26th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

I am your better, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49771979)



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Date: March 27th, 2026 9:53 PM
Author: wonderful hall

You ain’t shit, u bald fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49775255)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:35 PM
Author: startled whorehouse idiot

cr. the basic necessities of life are too expensive on even a normal professional salary.

rent, car, insurance, food, etc. Without anything else is more than most people make.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765566)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Indian Lodge Brethren

just cap interest rates at whatever we decide is usury. this is common sense and enshrined in the most ancient laws we have. amazing we've eliminated this so that proles can have the "freedom" to be exploited for $800/mo kia loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764656)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: startled whorehouse idiot

there's just too much information out there that allows the producers of necessary things like cars to maximize the cost in a way that eats up every dollar of most peoples incomes.

it's all driven by monthly payments. Lower interests are great! now the manufacturer can just jack up the MSRP. higher interest rates? ok let's just offer 10 year loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765576)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Indian Lodge Brethren

automakers offer below market rates as incentives all the time. capping interest rates would not lead to higher msrps except for nissan that makes a lot of money off scumbag lending. plus people use non-dealer financing all the time, so automakers can't reliably recoup via financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765907)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

Totally agree. Access to credit drives up prices IMO. Less ability to extend credit to any idiot that shows up at a dealer would lead to people seeking out cheaper cars (instead of trying to "flex") and it would force automakers to start making cheaper vehicles again. I think a big part of why sedans are "dying" is because of the type of credit that companies can extend to consumers who have no business borrowing tens of thousands of dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765920)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: Talented weed whacker

stop it. the dealers of those vehicles (who have a monopoly on all new cars from that automaker) offset the incentive pricing with add-ons and other nonsense (e.g., a $899 tint that cost them $30 in parts/labor). they rip you off every chance they get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766038)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 6:00 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mint milk

Yes, you need to negotiate all dealer add-ons to zero to get as close to invoice as possible.

Never do a trade in with the dealership. Or maybe have them give you an appraisal and even bring the title and show the salesman, but then at the last minute pull your trade in and be like I'm going to walk from this deal, get me my car back. Then ask if they can match the out-the-door price they gave (assuming trade in) if you make up the difference with cash.

Always be able to walk. And when I say walk, I mean walk.

You can't do this at all with Toyotas or other "in" cars. And certainly not with luxury models or sporty models that are status symbols. You need to find models that aren't as popular and that won't have as strong a resale value if you want to get them down on price. But in the long run, if you're just trying to buy a car, it's always a smarter choice to drive what is decent and boring and NEVER EVER EVER drive what is popular or seen as trendy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766068)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: startled whorehouse idiot

I love you and we’re great friends but I’m trying understand your original comment re: usury and capping rates vis-a-vis monthly car payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766657)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Indian Lodge Brethren

if you cap interest rates then average payments will go down because non-credit worthy people like $800/mo kia girl will not be able to obtain financing. i think her not being able to finance a car is less cruel than allowing her to be fleeced at usurious rates.

you said automakers would just raise msrps to compensate. i disagree. automakers cannot recoup loss from lower interest rates by raising msrp because they cannot force people to finance through them. if two cars cost 30k, one cannot raise the price to 35k so that they can offer low rates to shit borrowers because the majority of the market that is credit worthy will buy the 30k car.

you're basically talking about frontloading interest in the cars principal. automakers couldnt do this. and, if they devised a way, it could be regulated away. charging usurious interest by fraudulently frontloading it in the principal is something that happened when usury was a thing too. it would be like allowing a mortgager to charge customers points to pay down the rate cap and calling it the origination fee. they're still charging the usurious rate, they're just hiding the money somewhere else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766964)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 5:30 PM
Author: Talented weed whacker

was it a GT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766025)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

I googled that Car and it's not expensive so what's going on, a lightly used model that sold at new MSRP but much higher interest rate? smh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764043)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address

She is Stupid and probably bought it with her Scumbag boyfriend who promised to help with the payments and then disappeared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764050)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:13 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

Almost certain that she traded in a previous car that she was underwater on and she rolled the negative equity into the new loan. So she had a loan whose value was significantly more than the absolute dog shit car she bought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764054)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:28 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

When I was extremely poor I just took after the uberproles and drove horrible Scummy as fuck cars. There were $2995 cars everywhere. This Kia doesn't seem that expensive even, $27k and probably has fewer problems than some 1990s bullshit head gasket fuck you mobile. If it breaks just Engineer a solution. stop leak. head gasket. engine replacement from a Junkyard with ferocious dogs running around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764089)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:35 PM
Author: multi-colored ratface chapel

my first car cost me $300 and I drove it for two years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765563)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: carmine double fault station

Mine cost 800 and it was still running 5 years later when I traded it in for a 4k car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765625)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 3:00 PM
Author: irradiated henna nursing home

you guys are like retarded boomers who talk about buying homes for $30k and wonder why young people nowadays can't afford a mortgage. even cars that are just being parted out go for those prices on fb marketplace. a drivable early 2000s corolla goes for $3k min now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765642)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: carmine double fault station

We're old here dummy. XO is woke to the fraud economy, it's just nice to remember the simpler times. This thread is about dummies (like you) buying cars they can't afford.

Tell us about your monthly payments, dummy. Did you roll in any "negative equity?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765667)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: irradiated henna nursing home

nah i'm not that retarded lol. i bought an early 2000s GMC Sierra 1500 off marketplace pre-COVID. and it's still driving great. previous car before that was a hand-me-down 2002 Honda CR-V from my parents. What car do you drive now as a boomer? just curious no doobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765685)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:29 PM
Author: cracking national circlehead

I have a Scumbag friend that does this. I don’t think he’s been on the right side of a car loan in 20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765552)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: Glittery factory reset button filthpig

How is this possible it's a 25k car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764046)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:13 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

I kept thinking this was the thing that they call the Stinger now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764056)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: Indigo Plaza Gay Wizard

I didn't read the article but put down the minimum, make minimum payments, borrow at like 15%, and wait a few months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764074)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:39 PM
Author: Jade low-t university coldplay fan

After splitting time between Las Vegas and Texas, he settled in Houston in 2023. But he had hourlong work commutes and was driving for DoorDash and Uber for extra income, which quickly raised the gas bill and mileage on his 2016 Chevy Sonic. He is also holding on to a 2015 Chevy Camaro.

Mr. Rhodes has decided to pause his ride-hailing and delivery work and is focusing only on hairstyling.

“I remember being younger, and you could just buy a car outright and keep it rolling,” Mr. Rhodes said. “Now there’s these high payments. It’s just crazy.”

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NYT is just "Daily Mail for Libs" at this point, pretty solidly disguised ragebait. "Why doesn't this fucking NIG-I mean, down on his luck citizen just sell the Camaro?" the lib wondered to zhimzelf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764109)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 10:57 PM
Author: brindle generalized bond tanning salon

Tbf it is an insane expense for poors who, if white, cannot afford to live in cities with public transit that aren’t Cleveland or worse. And if you’re poor you need to work and if you live in some horrible US nowhere place you need to drive or get a Ride. I’m convinced the incredibly shortsighted and stupid investment in automobile infrastructure will be the ultimate downfall of North America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764162)



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Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:25 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

OYT what are you even talking about. this is such a liberal idea. "the automobile" is retarded but the lib obsession with it is telling. you just hate any manifestation of personal freedom.

personal freedom, and this is the part people don't say out loud until it's too late, results in dumbs doing Extremely Dumb Things and then suffering the consequences and also their children suffering the consequences. my question to you is, why is this bad? sufferers of intergenerational trauma driving 2003 pontiac grand ams on their 20th owner.... how the fuck else are you going to find someone who isn't an immigrant to work at a slaughterhouse or a wal mart? the system demands Ruin and Scum as grist for the mill. weird to think that modernity had only really sort of "existed" for a few short decades when we were born, and that the whole perspective was different back then. but today you can look at some Scummy kid building Character and be like "his grandfather got DWIs" or something and nod at yourself approvingly. Caste and Clique are inherited. and the whole thing veers into a totally different Lane based on a few automobile purchases whose consequences reverberate for decades. and my question, again, is why is this bad? Scumbags failing constantly is better for GDP somehow than raising taxes and building Rail imho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764200)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 7:23 AM
Author: brindle generalized bond tanning salon

It’s bad because it is, just like everything else. I know this is how’s it’s supposed to work, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it. You can’t stop dumbs from being dumb but you can stop people from exploiting them to some venal end afaik.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764441)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 7:49 AM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

You just want the Top Technocrats exploiting them and not Kulak used car dealers bc you’re Leftist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764463)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: rose ape office

Half the Chinese now own cars. Nobody with any money at all wants to ride the fucking bus no matter how nice a bus it fucking is. Same with subways.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764652)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:27 AM
Author: Topaz thriller famous landscape painting private investor

I knew I could click this fucking thread and read huge paragraphs from cowgod and OYT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764633)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:27 AM
Author: Appetizing range nibblets

two bald irrelevant dorks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764636)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

And yet, you probably breathed a sigh of relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764641)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: Topaz thriller famous landscape painting private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764659)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766828)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:33 AM
Author: rose ape office

My nanny drives a BMW X3. A new one. I am am legit multimillionaire and I drive a Highlander. Our cars cost about the same only my net worth is 40x hers. That's what's wrong with America. The best part is because she drives such a nice car we never have to give her our car to drive the kids places. I just bought her a car seat and reimburse for gas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764647)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:52 AM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

I have a friend who drives a BMW SUV and legitimately it is his entire personality. Obsesses over the engine and the 0-60. Talks about it non-stop. Meanwhile, he has to street park it (doesn't own a home), is paying $800+ a month for five years, and $500 a month in insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764687)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: carmine double fault station

A few years ago, within the course of about 2 months, my assistant bought a new 3 series and my paralegal bought a lightly used Merc SUV at 12% interest. They've both since been fired and I'm driving the same Camry I had then. It's insane what people do. The assistant was young and had some help from Daddy but my paralegal was broke. I tried to talk to her but she bought that piece of shit anyway. Total waste.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765620)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766832)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: crystalline fragrant rehab

My wife and I both drive 2019 model Toyotas that have been paid off for three years while her prole sister leases a new BMW every 3 years and never has money for anything to the point that we have to cover her flight and room when she vacations with us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764649)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: aphrodisiac mint milk

My wife is in a 2019 Honda. Paid off since 2019. I'm in a 2023 Altima. Last payment is on the 12th. Then it's owned free and clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764661)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:41 AM
Author: rose ape office

While I fully support not buying luxury badges -- LJL at driving compact sedans like an Altima. You will die in any car crash with a F150 and you have to assume some drunk in an F150 will hit you since this is TTT America. Never, ever, drive a small car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764664)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:42 AM
Author: aphrodisiac mint milk

Nissan Sentra is the compact. Nissan Altima is the midsize. It's the same class as Camry/Accord. $30,000 car in this economy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764667)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:11 AM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

It’s the same size as his beloved stinger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764755)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:23 PM
Author: carmine double fault station

But with MUCH slower depreciation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765528)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:25 PM
Author: rose ape office

I put 120k miles on the Stinger before I got rid of it. It was really a very pleasant experience. I never had serious issues with the car despite all the bad things you hear about Kia transmissions in particular. The interior was starting to go to shit when I replaced it and that was the biggest thing I could complain about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765539)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: carmine double fault station

Yeah I'm just kidding you man I have no problem with the stinger for what it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765640)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 5:00 PM
Author: well-lubricated philosopher-king juggernaut

Why are numbers always so fake and weird with you…. You were a wfh Loser, not driving to Alaska and back or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765974)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:38 PM
Author: multi-colored ratface chapel

I hoap you at least get to fuck her in the ass on these "vacations."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765572)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 5:23 PM
Author: Hairless Chest-beating Round Eye

Describe SIL's cans & panties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766016)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:35 AM
Author: exhilarant parlour

Angelica Akins, 32, works late-night shifts as a certified nursing assistant while raising five children. Early last year, the engine of her 2011 Chevrolet Equinox died. Without enough savings or the credit score that dealerships required, she put off buying a car and temporarily turned to ride-hailing services to get to work.

The rides cost her around $1,000 a month, with her commute taking about two hours round-trip from her apartment in Grand Rapids, Mich., to her job in Saginaw. Ms. Akins picked up extra shifts to keep up with her expenses while saving for a car. But the daily Uber costs added up, and she managed to save only about $2,500 — less than half of what she desired.

“You never know how important things are until you lose them,” she said.

Ms. Akins recently moved back in with her mother, leaving the neighborhood and home she loved to cut back on her $1,400 monthly rent and shorten her commute to 30 minutes, making it easier to share rides in her mother’s car or find cheaper trips.

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Her: 32. A fucking CNA (like the entry level of nursing). FIVE. CHILDREN.

U: 40. JD. Can't afford a kid yet, maybe in a couple of years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764653)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: rose ape office

Idiocracy made this point 20 years ago. The species is doomed because people like us should be making sure that people like her starve to death and never breed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764658)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: flickering ruddy business firm kitty

lmao hour commute from grand rapids to saginaw lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765586)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: rose ape office

Chinese cars are better than our cars now and cost half as much. The solution is to open the market to them and watch the US car industry implode while prices drop 50% or more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764662)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 9:43 AM
Author: marvelous coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764669)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:05 AM
Author: Twisted crimson hell

Good idea, Zhang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764735)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:06 AM
Author: rose ape office

Best idea. Yankees make inferior goods and are dumb and lazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49764738)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: Copper histrionic address

Why doesn't the Czar build cars in Russia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766839)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:32 PM
Author: Coral Area

I'm not against blaming proles but most of America doesn't have good public transit. Too many people need some form of transportation and cars are too expensive relative to incomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765556)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:45 PM
Author: arrogant mischievous base

Yeah, but 95% of the time the problem is that the proles buy a $40k+ car instead of a $5,000 car that is functionally equivalent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765601)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: heady cordovan location

there are no more $5000 cars. the cheap used cars we grew up with are gone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765611)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:57 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mint milk

This is true. These days you need $12,000 minimum for a complete beater. A good value buy will be in the low to mid 20s, and 3-4 years old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765631)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 3:08 PM
Author: Coral Area

Yes, and do note that proles end up paying way more per month, averaged out, than the cost of the vehicle would suggest. Financing costs due to poor or lack of credit are higher, maintenance costs are higher, insurance costs are higher in the ghetto, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765672)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:29 PM
Author: arrogant mischievous base

Your retarded.itwrally thousands of cars like this for sale.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/fd32a7a5-639f-4006-a1b1-2471c879e4c1/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765897)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: heady cordovan location

that's a vehicle that has been in an accident and is likely very unreliable.

this isn't some controversial thing i'm claiming. it's well documented

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765932)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

It took about 15 seconds to find the below listing and there are tons more like it.

https://www.cargurus.com/details/436541688?resultSetId=9cfcd93b-d1c5-40bb-9bfe-6257706ac5b8&searchUuid=ed5fcee4-d6c1-442c-98c2-f1326c8db10e&sourceContext=carGurusHomePageModel&sponsoredType=NONE&srpVariation=DEFAULT_SEARCH&listingIndex=7&inclusionType=DEFAULT&searchZip=10514&searchDistance=50&ourls=SRP&srpc=N4IghgZgxiBcoC8CWAHOICMAGArBgLCADQgC2YA1gKYCyA9gCZUA2AKgE5KkAKYALgAsAznADaZAGzFJAegY4AHAE4QAXRIMkQvmAB2UKnBxYSuuroDKA1CjAAjZlQBCYISyS7DsbAGYlJITp2PgARJHYqKD4kc3QAQQsAYWlA4NYATxQvECcAUQtWAH0aONZEgAlpLRD3ADcqdnTc3XtHBjgIMGY3EnIAD25OAzgMCSxxknrrKEdyrT4g9IB5FGjzEVhxRIAZXLiAOULWAElWXel9pcOLOO2ANTiAcVy1APYUO7BOfhjddBDcgAxOIAVW2RQsewAShUQABfEhRPpwUDMJDtWD4HwSHD4UYKBQkFAAcxGAQAruT0egqPJoFQqPgALQMCRQDBM-D4ABMUCZSgUUG5TIgGB83LZCgYdmwhjeUCR6CgX0e5PY5KE5TopCovGJtEYLGkJLANPSAClyAANc0IBiApwCABa3JBSCWACtcvhtolzQB3ACaAHUGGwkMcJDQPYCVHC4UA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765939)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: heady cordovan location

you're talking about a nearly 15 year old car. that's a decent deal but it's going to have 15 year old car problems. my point is that you can't get a cheap and reliable 5 year old vehicle like you could in the 90s and 2000s. the market is radically different. if you don't realize that, you aren't paying attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765954)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

I am a car nut and trade in and out of cars with some frequency. Though I am always a cash buyer. If someone is in such dire straits that they need as cheap a car as possible, they aren't looking to buy this car and keep it for a decade. They just need something to keep them functional while they get their act in order.

And even then, there are plenty of Craigslist specials to be had. Here's a cool ass Honda Accord for less than $7k. https://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/d/yonkers-2014-honda-accord/7922966981.html

As another poaster said, you are greatly underrating the reliability of more recent cars. Especially mass market vehicles like the Camry, CR-V, RAV4, etc. And age of the vehicle matters less than miles and maintenance. And these cars are not complicated to maintain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765977)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 6:08 PM
Author: Slate turdskin

Yeah I'm sure this half-retarded female CNA will diligently track the maintenance schedule while assiduously avoiding getting ripped off with needless extras pushed on her every time she goes into the shop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49766088)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: arrogant mischievous base

You're using old boomer logic from back when cars were unreliable as fuck and rarely made it past 100k miles, and didn't make it to 50 if you didn't maintain properly.

Cars from the past 15 years all easily hit 200k even with shitty maintenance. Even the shitty ones.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765948)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

Plenty of $15k and below cars out there. Not even total pieces of shit. Countless used CR-Vs and Camrys with 150k miles that have plenty of life left out there. People just want a "new car" because they "deserve it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765924)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: heady cordovan location

car inflation in both the used and new market has been huge over the last 5 years. the point isn't that you can't buy a used car. it's that you can't buy a used car CHEAPLY.

in the 90s and 2000s, it was very easy to get a 5-7 year old vehicle for $3000 that would serve a high school kid, college student, grad student, or someone in their first job very well for a 2-4 years. you could buy one with savings from a summer of fast food work or as a lifeguard or SAT tutoring. that's not possible any more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765945)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: arrogant mischievous base

Yeah, but a 13 year old car in 2025 for $5000 is just as reliable as those 5-7 year old cars were back then.

Youre using retard logic to justify spending too much on cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765955)



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Date: March 26th, 2026 4:59 PM
Author: rose ape office

Yeah, this is nonsense. Cars were not materially more reliable in 2002 than in 2026. We are all old The 1997 Toyota you could buy in 2002 for $5k was, if anything, more reliable than the 13 year Toyota you would buy today for $5k. Cars after 1995 are basically "modern." You have to go back to early 90s late 80 cars for real unreliable junk and you have to be north of 50 to really have driven those.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49771437)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 4:57 PM
Author: Avocado Arousing Church

I understand your point. But people's incomes have also risen. And even though incomes haven't kept pace with inflation, there is a gigantic universe of reliable used cars on the market at any time for under $15k.

And they can still be financed for 5+ years at which point the monthly payment could be less than $250.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765963)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:43 PM
Author: flickering ruddy business firm kitty

how the fuck is a "student" buying a car in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765588)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: carmine double fault station

Hmmmmmmmm...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765627)



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Date: March 24th, 2026 2:57 PM
Author: multi-colored ratface chapel

whore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49765629)



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Date: March 26th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: violent comical theater stage

Car prices are insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848415&forum_id=2/#49771981)