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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49064860) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077411) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Sienna marvelous selfie friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105012) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle vengeful tanning salon deer antler Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Yellow talented home tattoo Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Yellow talented home tattoo They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969954) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Glassy Cowardly Station Depressive Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065184) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: bisexual mother I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985033) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Flatulent office clown i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Beady-eyed pink principal's office halford Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Splenetic state genital piercing really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Internet-worthy sweet tailpipe national security agency It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49421865) |
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