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I have some new details about the spaceporn bar spaghetti incident

I spoke with the waitress and someone else who was there whe...
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To be fair, I can confirm.
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sure bud
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This is so fucked up.
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Hand in the proverbial cookie jar
Geriatric Pink Tattoo Set
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This is FALSE. I was actually there. SP had SP jr. bent ove...
crusty school cafeteria knife
  04/08/23
brave of you to poast this
Flickering Ape
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pontificating stead codepig
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Extremely inspiring poast thanks
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TWIST: Bill and Walt are representing the waitress.
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razzmatazz sticky hall
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Big if true
chest-beating round eye garrison
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So are you actually there in person moonlighting as a privat...
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The aforementioned conversations were in person, that’...
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Tick tock spaceporn
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Tic Tock for you going back to prison I assume.
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You’re fucked pal
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Jesus.
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Jesus ain’t touching this one
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Op here, only news to report is that our pal SP is going to ...
Wild famous landscape painting laser beams
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When was the last time you had sex with a biological female?...
Glassy insanely creepy gas station half-breed
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couple weeks ago. you?
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wait, so sp actually is a chimo? i thought that was just lik...
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new here?
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based on what i know (admittedly little - even though i poas...
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Just don't talk about me, pedophile.
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I can confirm.
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throwaway?
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I can't say more.
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i want to send you sexy messages and gay porn
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yeah, i figured the person everyone says sp in can't really ...
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new poaster, first day?
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like i said, i'm aware of the sp fucks his son origin story,...
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Date: April 8th, 2023 3:52 PM
Author: Wild famous landscape painting laser beams

I spoke with the waitress and someone else who was there when it happened

SP had his hand all the way in the kid’s pants and was fondling his genitals. Kid was clearly in distress.

Waitress asked what he was doing when she came to bring SP another beer and SP had a panicked flipout like he was surprised anyone would notice.

Waitress did end up getting fired unfortunately but is considering suing either the restaurant or SP.

That’s all i know but am going to ask around a bit more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161253)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 3:59 PM
Author: frisky arousing piazza filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161283)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: Irradiated box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161287)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: Big ivory lodge

Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161289)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: cobalt business firm foreskin

To be fair,

I can confirm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161292)



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Date: November 14th, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: pontificating stead codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#48337327)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 4:56 PM
Author: grizzly resort double fault

Pedos often become convinced they are never going to get caught and so become very brazen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161459)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 5:10 PM
Author: Irradiated box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161511)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 2:57 PM
Author: laughsome stage multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164478)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:37 PM
Author: pontificating stead codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164596)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 6:54 PM
Author: Razzle buff deer antler

sure bud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161904)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 6:55 PM
Author: narrow-minded contagious lettuce fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161906)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 6:59 PM
Author: Dashing mood

This is so fucked up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161920)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 12:18 PM
Author: Hateful stimulating sweet tailpipe dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46163996)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 6:59 PM
Author: Geriatric Pink Tattoo Set

Hand in the proverbial cookie jar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161921)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 7:04 PM
Author: crusty school cafeteria knife

This is FALSE. I was actually there. SP had SP jr. bent over the table pounding his ricehole. SP then pulled out and started to pee on SP jr while shouting 'HOUSE ON FIRE! HOUSE ON FIRE! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!'. It was a very lib bar so they were nervous about interfering since they did not want to come off as homophobic. The waitress was very brave for offering SP jr a towel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161937)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:04 PM
Author: Flickering Ape

brave of you to poast this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164507)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:36 PM
Author: pontificating stead codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164592)



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Date: April 12th, 2023 5:42 PM
Author: Massive mahogany boiling water mad cow disease

Extremely inspiring poast thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46177424)



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Date: March 10th, 2024 3:36 PM
Author: nudist yellow pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47481014)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 7:15 PM
Author: twisted disrespectful headpube

TWIST: Bill and Walt are representing the waitress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46161964)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 8:15 PM
Author: razzmatazz sticky hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46162120)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 8:13 PM
Author: chest-beating round eye garrison

Big if true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46162116)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 8:14 PM
Author: nudist yellow pistol

So are you actually there in person moonlighting as a private investigator? Or doing this all over zoom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46162119)



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Date: April 8th, 2023 8:17 PM
Author: Wild famous landscape painting laser beams

The aforementioned conversations were in person, that’s all I really want to say in that area atm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46162123)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 12:18 PM
Author: Hateful stimulating sweet tailpipe dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46163994)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 2:47 PM
Author: trip personal credit line sanctuary

Tick tock spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164444)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:10 PM
Author: Glassy insanely creepy gas station half-breed

Tic Tock for you going back to prison I assume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164523)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:23 PM
Author: trip personal credit line sanctuary

You’re fucked pal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164558)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:29 PM
Author: Glassy insanely creepy gas station half-breed

I’m doing great 👍

You are so fucked it’s just pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164572)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:36 PM
Author: pontificating stead codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164594)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 3:37 PM
Author: Avocado tanning salon

Jesus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46164599)



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Date: April 10th, 2023 5:51 PM
Author: Talented hideous genital piercing

Jesus ain’t touching this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46168892)



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Date: April 10th, 2023 11:14 PM
Author: lemon bespoke site regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46170246)



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Date: April 12th, 2023 5:39 PM
Author: twisted disrespectful headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46177413)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 9:30 PM
Author: Wild famous landscape painting laser beams

Op here, only news to report is that our pal SP is going to GREAT lengths to try to ensure this never blows back on him.

Like, crazy person stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46259432)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 9:36 PM
Author: Glassy insanely creepy gas station half-breed

When was the last time you had sex with a biological female?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46259465)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 9:47 PM
Author: Wild famous landscape painting laser beams

couple weeks ago. you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46259508)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:05 AM
Author: Wild famous landscape painting laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293312)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:06 AM
Author: Dashing mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293314)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:14 AM
Author: pea-brained national

wait, so sp actually is a chimo? i thought that was just like a board joke because he worded things poorly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293337)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:16 AM
Author: Coiffed crackhouse faggotry

new here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293345)



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Date: August 15th, 2023 11:57 AM
Author: Irradiated box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46671965)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:20 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle dead station

based on what i know (admittedly little - even though i poast quite a lot i don't retain very much info about poasters/drama because i truly come here only to say irreverent stuff and read what other people say), SP had a schtick a few years back where he got stoned and said "wacky" stuff. he is obviously awkward so him trying to be a chill breh is inevitably going to come off weird and unnatural. i distinctly remember one poast where he the title was something like "my four year old has a bigger dick than me bros" and like you say, there was a lot of poorly worded stuff in his poasts. i don't remember the basis for the playroom hotdog meme, but whatever it was it cannot have sounded good. i highly doubt he is actually a pedo, but to be honest none of us really KNOWS each other so can we say? anything is possible, but i don't think it's true.

but i can say this - he hasn't done himself any favors here (unless he is trolling and inviting the abuse).

the big question for me is whether the bar spaghetti thing actually happened or whether he is just baiting people. if it happened, why the fuck would he talk about it here? he knows what the result would be. and if it did happen, i really don't know what to think. that is certainly suspicious as fuck if you're being accused of a server of doing something inappropriate with a child. has anyone ever had that happen to them? the most charitable thing i can say about that is maybe the waitress said something innocuous like "why the hell are you in the bar with a little kid" and SP, because he is unhinged and has a short fuse, just went bonkers and took it to be an accusation of pedo activity. i dunno.

someone (i think Mase?) the other day says that as of february the real SP was poasting here. not sure how he knows that. but i legit thought that SP was an imposter going back to january because the spaghetti incident is just borderline unreal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293361)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:31 AM
Author: Glassy insanely creepy gas station half-breed

Just don't talk about me, pedophile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293390)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:32 AM
Author: Dashing mood

I can confirm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293396)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:33 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle dead station

throwaway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293399)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:34 AM
Author: Dashing mood

I can't say more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293406)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:36 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle dead station

i want to send you sexy messages and gay porn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293414)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 10:37 AM
Author: Dashing mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46293417)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:16 PM
Author: pea-brained national

yeah, i figured the person everyone says sp in can't really be him because no sane person would do / say the shit he says constantly on here, making crazy ass threads and stirring things up with people for no reason.

if that restaurant thing is true, that's a solid where there's smoke there's fire situation because i can't envision a circumstance where a server would call out a customer over their kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46294280)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:17 PM
Author: Big ivory lodge

new poaster, first day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46294284)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:21 PM
Author: pea-brained national

like i said, i'm aware of the sp fucks his son origin story, but it's really hard for me to square someone with their identity so wildly known taking so much time out of his day to do and say the wacky stuff i see on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46294300)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: wonderful twinkling hissy fit

This entire SP thing is bizarre. What's this restaurant story? Can you link the original poast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46294309)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:24 PM
Author: crusty school cafeteria knife

SP took his son out for bar spaghetti and the waitress thought he had kidnapped and raped his son. He complained to the manager and they gave him a free dinner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46294319)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle dead station

imagine you know nothing about this board and you read this description of what happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46295133)



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Date: May 10th, 2023 6:45 PM
Author: wonderful twinkling hissy fit

this board is like a schizophrenic AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46295823)



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Date: November 20th, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: lemon bespoke site regret

Origin of playroom hotdog meme was sp posting “little fucker begged for a playroom hotdog and now he won’t eat it.”

shitmodded of course, draw your own conclusions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#48360620)



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Date: June 17th, 2023 11:11 AM
Author: Beady-eyed hot gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46438170)



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Date: August 15th, 2023 11:55 AM
Author: lemon bespoke site regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46671961)



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Date: August 15th, 2023 2:26 PM
Author: jet-lagged rusted lay

Call me old fashioned but I think this is sick and SP needs to be stopped. Poor kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46672800)



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Date: September 29th, 2023 11:20 PM
Author: chartreuse forum quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#46862311)



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Date: November 1st, 2023 4:30 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle dead station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47008653)



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Date: March 10th, 2024 3:33 PM
Author: vivacious anal hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47481002)



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Date: April 2nd, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: crusty school cafeteria knife

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47548999)



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Date: April 2nd, 2024 6:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed hot gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47549388)



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Date: April 14th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: ungodly scarlet dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47582887)



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Date: May 24th, 2024 9:57 PM
Author: narrow-minded contagious lettuce fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5321552&forum_id=2/en-en/#47689632)



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Date: May 24th, 2024 9:57 PM
Author: Milky multi-colored field

Your kids will be dancing on those bars if you don’t quit molesting them.

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