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Why is Latin America so gawd damn violent?
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:01 AM Author: fishy station Destablisation by the US? Portugese and Spanish just bouncing after plundering the resources and furking all the natives? Drugs? |
Date: June 27th, 2026 4:10 AM Author: nudist sandwich pretty sure the WESTERNERS have something to do with the drugs too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965172) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:21 AM Author: fishy station Yessir (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965176) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:14 AM Author: Bearded doctorate idk SON, but in other instances of colonialism don't the most violent tribes usually survive? Like in the volcanic island chains off burma, the jarawa and sentinelese survived better than some of the great andamanese and other tribes on the nicobars because they reacted violently, where the other tribes were peaceful. You see similar dynamics among some uncontacted or recently contacted amazonian and gran chaco peoples in Peru, Paraguay etc. Maybe many of the assimilated peoples who survived also trended more violent. I guess there are examples against this though, like Tasmanian aboriginals resisting and still getting killed off. Could be that the types of Spanish that went over there were also way more violent than normal people. You would think that going over to a new land to potentially commit violent acts and conquer would attract that type. In puerto rico the tainos died off within like a decade and were peaceful, but the surviving people still seem pretty violent imo. And they are more Spanish than black or native, barely any native input because the tainos died so fast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965173) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:22 AM Author: fishy station Aren't like 80% mestizo and shit though? How are the purebloods so much more violent than most folk from Spain? What the fuck is wrong with them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965177) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:33 AM Author: Bearded doctorate Idk, in central and south American I think in Spanish speaking areas where people wear normal clothes it's mostly mestizo admixed populations, but I'm sure there are pockets in rural areas of indigenous. In guatamala in the mayan highlaands and shit and in Bolivia in the Andes it is still very indigenous. Especially in the andes. But the Mayan highlands aren't even the most violent parts of guatemala. Especially the indigenous-majority parts. The violence is all cartel gang spots. Obviously scammers/extortion rings and shit too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965179) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:36 AM Author: fishy station I mean how do none of these countries ever have democratically elected officials and shit? It's insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965180) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:38 AM Author: Bearded doctorate I think they have some, but winning an election there doesn't mean you actually control the state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965181) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:40 AM Author: fishy station Did Pinochet destroy the spirit of an entire generation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965182) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:43 AM Author: Bearded doctorate idk I would assume so. how many people got tortured and killed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965183) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:50 AM Author: fishy station Tens of thousands, plus all the ones murdered by the secret police and just dumped into the Atlantic. Furking insane shit.
Have you read any Bolano, bro? |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:52 AM Author: Bearded doctorate Never. I had actually never heard of him until recently when I saw his name floating around here recently and I googled it. I'm a big BORGES fan though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965185) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:59 AM Author: fishy station You'd fw with Bolano in that case.
Start off with By Night in Chile.
Everything the man wrote was genius in spite of his weird obsession with porno and furking everyone all the time. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Glassy impressive area Could be that the types of Spanish that went over there were also way more violent than normal people.
they were the descendants of the reconquista warriors escaping desperate rural poverty. they were completely insane and gold thirsty savages. read the new world stories and ask yourself what kind of total fucking lunatic it would take to go into mexico and peru and conquer them with a couple hundred men. no rational person ever would have attempted it, but somehow it worked out and then they fucked a bunch of savage indians and made the mestizos we know and love today. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 9:28 PM Author: fishy station 180000000000000000000000000000000
What about the fuckers who came in during the immigration waves? Similarly violent? |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:15 AM Author: Appetizing startled giraffe Genetics. Imagine a North America that had interbred with the natives instead of murdering them all. It would be pretty violent too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965174) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:19 AM Author: Bearded doctorate Yeah but doesn't explain why with indigenous tribes there are always reports of extremely peaceful tribes mixed with ones that react violently. If it's just genetics shouldn't they all have been violent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965175) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:23 AM Author: fishy station tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965178) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:59 AM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret depends on the specific latinx region. some places basically replicate american ghetto violence, like salvador in brazil. some have a lot of ghetto admixture, like venezuela or belize (not latinx as such, but close enough).
however, some of the most peaceable regions are areas like southern mexico, which are quite heavily native. bolivia, despite being an impoverished shithole, is only KIND OF violent in its native regions. alcohol clearly makes things worse for natives, as seen in parts of peru where crime is broadly unknown during the working hours, but suddenly surges at night when the bars are busy.
furthermore, how is it that a country like el salvador had a murder rate of 112 per 100,000 in the mid-2010's (one of the highest ever formally reported to the UN by a nation-state outside of a war), but collapsed below 2 within a decade?
a generic formula would be something like this: latinx criminality is a function of racial admixture plus certain 'trigger' factors which become active within, specifically, the amerind/mesoamerican portion of that admixture.
meaning that mesoamericans are capable of both relative peace and extraordinary (and sustained) violence. they are zealots for their particular cacique (chieftan). if the chieftan tells them to go to war, they will go completely apeshit berserk.
the role of cacique can be occupied by any sufficiently willful and stern-handed power. this includes colonists, local warlords/gang leaders, or national leaders, depending upon the circumstances. mesoamericans evolved under the whip-hand. they are probably temperamentally similar to the ancient egyptians.
note that cuba's admixture is mostly african, but it manages to keep crime under control through a forceful state which can inflict rapid punishments which frighten africans, specifically, into compliance.
this also explains to some degree why ecuador's anti-crime program has not been as successful as that of el salvador - once bukele became the ultimate cacique, the other salvadorans fell in line quickly. el salvador is probably around 75-80% mesoamerican and 5% african. ecuador is much less amerind and much more african, which changes the equation. honduras is similar in this respect. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:03 AM Author: fishy station TY for this bro.
Did US destablisation of central america basically furk over all those countries? |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:07 AM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret sort of, however, they were kind of fucked prior to that. el salvador had a huge massacre/civil war in the 1930's which led in part to the 1980's war due to unsettled national divisions. the US and soviets trying to 'activate' different factions to kill each other in the cold war got a lot of people killed, but modern criminality is more a function of state-level weakness.
they need strong men at the top with dictator-level powers over the specific realm of criminal policy. that's how they would get pacified in theory.
to the extent that the US or western nations threaten sanctions for leaders not allowing shitlib 'judges' to run the judiciary, it only makes crime worse. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:11 AM Author: fishy station What was the populace in the 1930s? Would it have been 90%+ mestizo back then in El Salvador? Were these countries ever woke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965191) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:18 AM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret the racial mix in most places hasn't changed that much during the 20th/21st centuries aside from the rapid growth of slum populations on the fringes of major cities.
part of the reason brazil became so much more violent after the 1970's was due to ruralized/small-towner populations of african/native/mixed people moving to the hillsides around major cities like rio and sao paulo and creating slums that post-dictatorship shitlib governments had no means of managing.
wokeness as a soft-on-crime/hands-off policy toward criminals goes back quite a long ways in some places. it wasn't really a philosophical wokeness in the sense of modern prison abolitionist retards who cite 'studies,' but more of a combination of neglect and political convenience. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:24 AM Author: fishy station TY bro where did you develop your expertise on Latin American society?
What do you think of the leftist sympathies in the 1970s and shit, misplaced hope, or a genuine direction for lost countries?
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:48 AM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret i've been around the block in latinxland. certain things become obvious once you see them, even if they aren't polite to mention aloud.
the soviet push in the 60's/70's to install moscow-friendly leaders was mostly doomed. it had success in cuba and nicaragua, but everything else sputtered out, often in absurd or destructive fashion, like the annoying hemorrhoids of violence represented by the colombian militias. el salvador itself took around 100K KIA in population of 4.8 million during its civil war. to no particular end aside from a UN-monitored peace accord which included shitlib 'judiciary reforms' which crippled the state's capacity to kill gangbangers.
a fundamental problem is that reformist/anti-regime elements ended up recruiting from the criminal classes. venezuela got wrecked by this kind of coalition. chavez's clients included the gangs in the hills around caracas, and his government was never able or willing to restrain them. the hit to venezuela's GDP was enormous over time. truckers could not reliably deliver food from rural farms to the cities without fear of being roadblocked and hijacked.
and this ties back into the overall racial component, since you need a firm hand against crime and criminality to keep these kind of societies functional. fidel castro, bless his heart, managed to avoid this problem by recruiting a lot of disaffected zealots who were both outside of the criminal classes and who had been alienated by the havana regime. he did not have to pull a hugo chavez and let criminals run the show. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:59 AM Author: fishy station TY bro.
He this is very good clarity.
Sounds like a lot of failed policies/failed politicians at the top.
interesting that Castro is viewed as the best leader of the bunch. Makes sense though. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 6:16 AM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret there are kind of two different intertwined ways in which the political situation leads to violence in latinx countries. one is via neglect/laziness, which is probably exemplified by mexico. mexico has always had a fairly high overall crime rate and a lot of wild/uncontrolled territories far from where the government entrenched itself in mexico city.
this goes back to the spanish colonial era. even though spain claimed california, spaniards never even knew about a gigantic mega-feature like mt. shasta, because they never sent exploration teams, because they didn't fucking care. some catholics built missions along the coast, and that was that.
independent mexico inherited all of these tendencies. mexico did not have surveys of its own claimed land. foreign settlers from the eastern US got into mexican land before mexican authorities ever did, with quite a lot of eventual consequences.
when modern cartels got going in the 1960's/1970's, the central government barely cared. this was NOT a 'shitlib' government in any traditional sense; it outright massacred uppity students near the imperial core. but it was too centralized and lazy to exert effective control over its fringes.
this neglect can intermingle with modern SJW-style 'criminal justice' policies which are amplified by international pressures. brazil, for instance, significantly reduced its maximum penalties for crimes like murder in the 1980's, after its dictatorship was ousted.
this was applauded by 'the international community.' it was asinine and destructive in actual practice, which was not hard to predict based on brazil's demographics.
in this sense, el salvador may be the first test-case for something approaching a data-driven crackdown on crime. bukele didn't just tell his soldiers to go kill everyone; he had computers. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 6:57 PM Author: Opaque coffee pot wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966150) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:52 PM Author: fishy station TY
Thats what fascinates me---how a guy like Bukele can get rid of the most violent fucks in his country.
Was he helped by the US? He's a total anomaly. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 9:35 PM Author: Glassy impressive area it's really easy if you're willing to accept a certain level of wronguful incarcerations. just permajail everyone with tats or close ties to a gang, 95% of them are criminals. the other 5, well, that's the cost of doing business. we take the opposite approach, letting tons of criminals go in the name of due process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966417) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 9:47 PM Author: fishy station THIS.
Do you think he's a CIA asset, or is he fully independent? |
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Date: June 29th, 2026 1:27 AM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret i think he is more of a public policy entrepreneur who started out as a mayor and then was young and clever enough to realize the power of computer in terms of managing social problems in a relatively small nation such as his own. this led to alliances in the tech/crypto world, which is linked to US intelligence. i don't think he was or would have been a CIA plant from the very start, since 'fighting crime' has simply never been a CIA kind of initiative.
that seems to come from the technology side of things, where different strategies were tested out and data-assessed in real-time. |
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Date: June 29th, 2026 5:02 AM Author: fishy station So basically he locked up every violent ass spic and now people can walk the streets in peace. Is there any way he loses an election? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49968578) |
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Date: June 29th, 2026 9:40 PM Author: Marvelous carmine brunch regret he didn't actually imprison AS MANY people as seems to be commonly believed. he locked up around 55,000 out of a population of 6.4 million, which is substantial, but it's less than 2% of the male population.
but that was more than enough to cut the murder rate by over 98%. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:29 PM Author: Charcoal Passionate New Version ty for your service to scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966493) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:30 PM Author: fishy station tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966496) |
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Date: June 28th, 2026 9:32 AM Author: jade misunderstood keepsake machete set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966820) |
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Date: June 28th, 2026 11:26 AM Author: Carnelian Adventurous Hospital Legend And those missions Spain/MX set up were founded more than 200 years after the first explorations of what is now CA. They did absolutely nothing with the place that whole time. No visits, no settlements, nothing, nobody even went up there
SF Bay wasn't discovered until the late 1700s in an overland expedition led by a Catalan. AYY DAT TOO MANY FOG PAPI
"Spanish" ships were often crewed by Portuguese. Basques, Catalans, and Filipino natives.
Such a deeply idle and incurious people. |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:31 AM Author: amethyst electric roast beef Lack of a high degree of demographic homogeneity. Goes for the US as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965236) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 9:28 PM Author: fishy station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966395) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:09 PM Author: Bearded doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49965925) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 6:59 PM Author: magenta floppy tattoo Latin America is the most Birdshit area of world outside Europe btw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966153) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:09 PM Author: Bearded doctorate That's why it's so VIOLENT and PEDO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966198) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:52 PM Author: fishy station Australia/NZ, cunt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966261) |
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Date: June 28th, 2026 9:46 PM Author: magenta floppy tattoo Not anymore pajeet rules now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49968170) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 9:45 PM Author: Arousing flesh hall LatAm is highly localized. There are parts of CDMX safer than any part of NYC, Merida is safer than any major city in the US. The US used to be like this but we undertook programs to eliminate localized public housing and spread the shittiness throughout every major city. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966437) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:17 PM Author: provocative hominid The people are half European and 100% Christian/Catholic. Go figure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966479) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:26 PM Author: fishy station ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966485) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:27 PM Author: provocative hominid Europeans were fucking savages in Latin America. Probably the most barbaric people the earth has seen since the ancient Assyrians. Probably worse TBH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966487) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:28 PM Author: fishy station Yes but they were in the US too. And Australia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966489) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:29 PM Author: provocative hominid Jesus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966492) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:30 PM Author: fishy station Australia was founded by convicts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966495) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:36 PM Author: Bearded doctorate BIRDSHITS genocided peoples in Australia, New Zealand and especially tasmania (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966503) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:39 PM Author: fishy station Yes they exterminated them all in TAS.
Is the argument that Latin America is all halfbreed mestizos and then violent Spanish/Portugese? |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:42 PM Author: Bearded doctorate I think it is probably a combination of several different pressure points. Also I think it's wrong to assume "violent" is necessarily a Bad Trait these groups essentially have rather than it being a rational and adaptive response to their Living Conditions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966531) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:45 PM Author: fishy station I agree but why have none of these countries ever moved towards democracy? It's only either dictatorship or straight socialism there. |
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Date: June 28th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: provocative hominid Democracy sucks. It gave us Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49967064) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:44 PM Author: provocative hominid The ones who still live in the jungle are chill, not like people in the cities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966538) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:45 PM Author: Bearded doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966540) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:27 PM Author: nudist sandwich whoaaa I found proof that Latin Americans are genetically predisposed to violence: https://ibb.co/6JBxvvmg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966486) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:28 PM Author: fishy station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966491) |
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Date: June 29th, 2026 12:46 AM Author: nudist sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49968501) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:53 PM Author: Lilac shivering church building telephone the weather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877747&forum_id=2/en-en#49966569) |