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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
Glittery associate lodge
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insecure canary home becky
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Low-t telephone whorehouse
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
180 Wrinkle
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
Slimy persian
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
Dun sandwich
  06/18/24
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razzmatazz jet-lagged locale athletic conference
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre
  06/19/24
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Maize masturbator step-uncle's house
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
exhilarant trailer park
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
Citrine laughsome genital piercing
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
cerebral alcoholic meetinghouse pisswyrm
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
Glittery associate lodge
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Maize masturbator step-uncle's house
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bespoke lettuce ticket booth
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
nighttime drab hunting ground
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
cerebral alcoholic meetinghouse pisswyrm
  06/18/24
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cerise dysfunction
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
pink up-to-no-good puppy
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
dark motley foreskin
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
twisted immigrant cumskin
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
dark motley foreskin
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
twisted immigrant cumskin
  06/20/24
both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make ...
nookie licker
  09/01/26
Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking t...
Richard Ames
  09/01/26
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
Mildly Autistic Locus
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
cerise dysfunction
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
cerebral alcoholic meetinghouse pisswyrm
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
cerise dysfunction
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
Free-loading bistre roast beef
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
Mildly Autistic Locus
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
Free-loading bistre roast beef
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
garnet odious alpha
  06/19/24
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lascivious topaz property old irish cottage
  06/19/24
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pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
razzmatazz jet-lagged locale athletic conference
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
vermilion menage
  06/20/24
I’m gay
cream vibrant gay wizard theater
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
soul-stirring roommate
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
Saffron cruise ship
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/19/24
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stubborn charismatic quadroon kitchen
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
Slimy persian
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
Supple carmine water buffalo pervert
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
misunderstood chapel dragon
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
razzmatazz jet-lagged locale athletic conference
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
misunderstood chapel dragon
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cerise dysfunction
  06/21/24
then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems li...
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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Glittery associate lodge

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: insecure canary home becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Low-t telephone whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: 180 Wrinkle

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: Slimy persian

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: Dun sandwich

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged locale athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Maize masturbator step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: exhilarant trailer park

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Citrine laughsome genital piercing

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: cerebral alcoholic meetinghouse pisswyrm

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: Glittery associate lodge

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: boyish garrison fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Maize masturbator step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Low-t telephone whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: bespoke lettuce ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: nighttime drab hunting ground

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: cerebral alcoholic meetinghouse pisswyrm

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: cerise dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: pink up-to-no-good puppy

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: dark motley foreskin

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: twisted immigrant cumskin

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: dark motley foreskin

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: twisted immigrant cumskin

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47764303)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:53 PM
Author: nookie licker

both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make any sense obviously. may as well make davey scitino be made of liquid metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#50109176)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking to Big Ton'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#50109200)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Locus

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: cerise dysfunction

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: cerebral alcoholic meetinghouse pisswyrm

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: cerise dysfunction

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: Free-loading bistre roast beef

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Locus

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Free-loading bistre roast beef

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: garnet odious alpha

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: lascivious topaz property old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged locale athletic conference

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: vermilion menage

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: cream vibrant gay wizard theater

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: soul-stirring roommate

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: Saffron cruise ship

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: stubborn charismatic quadroon kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: Slimy persian

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: pea-brained ruddy hairy legs theatre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Supple carmine water buffalo pervert

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged locale athletic conference

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: misunderstood chapel dragon

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: cerise dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#47766116)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: nookie licker

then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems like a waste of effort?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2/en-en#50109169)