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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:04 PM Author: comical unhinged alpha i feel like this stuff is still under-theorized as a sociocultural and marketing phenomenon. superficially, it was the music industry's pivot from the 'adult contemporary' format which was struggling after the 80's. but it grew well beyond that into a sprawling industry with some of the best-selling albums in US history, like hootie's first record. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49730628) |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:09 PM Author: comical unhinged alpha i feel like it represented the post-cold war totalization of pop culture into a specific set of products. 'adult alternative' wasn't really a single coherent sound or category; it was a kind of catch-basin for different marketing goals. 'grunge' was too harsh for a lot of consumers, so they got grunge-'adjacent' acts like counting crows and collective soul instead.
'jam bands' were too diffuse and difficult to edit for radio, so the AA format developed DMB and blues traveler and so on.
the riot girl stuff was too unpolished, but AA could take some of those notions and fold them into sheryl crow and melissa etheridge and so forth.
'roots rock' was too niche. bring in hootie. and on and on. |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:18 PM Author: Vibrant bisexual international law enforcement agency locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49730669) |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:30 PM Author: comical unhinged alpha there were also bands in other genres which saw the rise of AA and said "give me some of that." goo goo dolls, for example. they started back in the 80's as a metal-adjacent rock band. they decided at some point around 1992 that they did not want to compete with the grunge acts, and they polished their sound into smoother rock-based power-pop, eg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRbWasL1kac
this did okay for them, but they knew they could go further. and that's what they did by 1995, with their first AA mega-hit ('Name'). |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:09 PM Author: 180 mentally impaired newt halford Toad the Wet Sprocket sucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49730640) |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:13 PM Author: 180 mentally impaired newt halford philosophy is just the talk on the cereal box. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49730658) |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:24 PM Author: cobalt house shitlib good call. that song came out in 1989 and sort of presages the format OP talks about by 5 or 6 years.
i love 'What I Am', though. it's of a higher quality than 'Dishwalla' and the AC stuff that came in the 90s.
one of the few guitar-based top-40 songs of the era that was not a 'hard rock'/Alt rock crossover, just straight pop rock. it gives you a sense of what 80s/90s top 40 would have sounded like if it had never been 'Urbanized.' if the cultural currents that produced 70s 'soft rock' had persisted. |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:21 PM Author: aromatic very tactful hospital mediation This shit was king in that weird interregnum between grunge and nu metal. It was like “we can’t go from Pearl Jam to Limp Bizkit right away, so here’s some Breakfast at Tiffany’s.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49730688) |
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Date: March 9th, 2026 9:43 PM Author: comical unhinged alpha it was still big in the 00's for a while. matchbox twenty, for example. in fact, i'd say that coldplay was the last huge AA act. those guys eventually got edged out by pop-rap and other genres. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49730748) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 11:55 AM Author: aromatic very tactful hospital mediation Good call, there was that last cohort of white people who wanted new rock but was turned off by the Scumminess of nu metal. So the AA genre limped along a few more years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49731645) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Motley carmine senate tattoo tbh pearl jam was already kinda soy and paved the way for shittier post-grunge bands (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49731680) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 1:21 PM Author: Vibrant bisexual international law enforcement agency locale Funny I don’t really like Pearl Jam but love Eddie Vedder’s 2? Solo acoustic albums (into the wild and the one with the album cover at the bottom of the ocean) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49731903) |
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Date: March 11th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: saffron bat-shit-crazy toaster His ukulele album is great too, and I hate Pearl Jam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49734551) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 1:26 PM Author: aromatic very tactful hospital mediation They all copied his voice — Silverchair, Candlebox, STP, Collective Soul, Bush etc.
I don’t care for PJ but Eddie Vedder was the most influential / ripped-off rock vocalist since like Robert Plant. |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 2:06 PM Author: Vibrant bisexual international law enforcement agency locale I have so little familiarity with Gen X or even most millennial music for better or worse that I keep having to check that artist names ITT are real and not X(O) parody, lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49732072) |
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Date: March 11th, 2026 11:13 AM Author: orange yapping piazza I thought that was “MOR” which is definitely a music “genre” as well.
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Date: March 10th, 2026 2:23 PM Author: Bright Diverse Clown Trust Fund 180 thread
in movie terms, this era probably
Beginning - Singles / Slackers
Zenith- Reality Bites / Kicking and Screaming
End - High Fidelity or Garden State?
maybe I'm just describing Gen X generally |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 3:11 PM Author: 180 mentally impaired newt halford The big singles off the Singles s/t were all grunge not adult alternative contemporary.
The real start of adult alternative contemporary was 'Luka' by Suzanne Vega. |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 10:29 PM Author: Olive curious prole no; Tom's Diner was very much a young person/MTV Grind/middle school dance oriented song from that era. it was not in the Adult Contemporary vein.
her other material was more AC, though, a la Natalie Merchant etc. |
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Date: March 11th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: orange yapping piazza I don’t care for Suzanne Vega tbh. “Pop-folk” stuff like hers is just for girls too homely to be legit pop stars, which - much as it pains to admit - they would have much preferred to be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49734563) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 6:11 PM Author: comical unhinged alpha i'm not sure how well the adult alternative format 'maps' to films, since movies were sort of the last 90's stronghold of the big 80's adult contemporary power ballad (the bodyguard, titanic, armageddon, etc.).
aesthetically, it reminds me of early-90's films which were set almost inexplicably in seattle (since it had become trendy by then) but made no reference to grunge or music which had given the city its trendy reputation. sleepless in seattle and disclosure in particular.
disclosure was marketed as a 'techno-thriller' to help ride the cyberpunk trend, but the tech elements were muted, and it was actually a romantic drama. not exactly a bait-and-switch, but you can see the marketing goals. |
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Wasn't expecting this last part, tyvmft |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 6:25 PM Author: sienna base gay wizard This music felt like the world of tired grownups. Coffee breath, cloudy afternoons, divorce, waiting rooms, Volvos, chain bookstores, office park sadness. An aural reminder that your future is manageable but joyless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5843757&forum_id=2:#49732848) |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 6:29 PM Author: Vibrant bisexual international law enforcement agency locale >manageable but joyless
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of course compared to the Current Year it seems ridiculous but who could have known that then |
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Date: March 10th, 2026 7:56 PM Author: cocky keepsake machete I view this as an MTV vs VH1 war, where MTV was for kids looking for the latest cutting edge music (whether that be Nirvana or Britney Spears or KORN) vs VH1 which was for music someone over the age of 16 could listen to.
The VH1 market no longer exists because adults can instantly stream any music from the youth at any time - so you don't need bands like Matchbox 20 / Train / Third Eye Blind who appeal to 25-50 year olds. |
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