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why is HAtp so aggressively stupid?

this fag is worse than Spaceporn
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wordcel
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poopy diaper
Tall Man? Yes, you can!
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wordcel
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hatp is not stupid. I think I can see where you are coming f...
The Penis
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This but unironically
wordcel
  09/08/26
Now do gunneratttt
wordcel
  09/08/26
Gunnerattt is almost the perfect poaster to create a sub-thr...
The Penis
  09/08/26
CR. Most of my subthread wastelands, particularly with hatp,...
$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
  09/08/26
What do you think holds you back from, you know, stopping at...
wordcel
  09/08/26
Find me a single time I ever got the last word in with you? ...
$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
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Lol you never walk away. You goad me into defending my posit...
wordcel
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https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900727&mc=204&...
$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
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I'm not reading this. I would never care to read this.
wordcel
  09/08/26
It's the Speed, Stupid.
Tall Man? Yes, you can!
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wordcel
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This reminds me of the Sam Harris Noam Chomsky email dispute...
wordcel
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You WOULD think of it that way. Gunner is doing airy abstrac...
The Penis
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I don't even understand the deep hypotheticals you two propo...
wordcel
  09/08/26
Thats what you aren't understanding. It's not "hypothet...
The Penis
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Why would I test a defense theory that counsel hasn't raised...
wordcel
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I think not understanding yet responding with passionate scr...
$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
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You: the moon is made of cheese Me: no it's not You: "...
wordcel
  09/08/26
High pathos, low logos
$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
  09/08/26
If only we could all be as thuper thmart as you
wordcel
  09/08/26
You just agreed with him? I'm just framing the type of intel...
$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
  09/08/26
does HAtp understand blackjack and card counting?
Metal Up Your Ass
  09/08/26
Tough but fair
Consuela
  09/08/26
*bestows upon The Penis an honorary degree in xo studies*
Debunked antisemitic trope
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$BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
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wordcel
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Tall Man? Yes, you can!
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born that way
thinkin' about asians
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Consuela
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Who gives a fuck
John Doyle
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His religion is the Current Thing. The Current Thing is ver...
Consuela
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Awesome man did Nietzsche tell you that
John Doyle
  09/08/26
I don’t like or rely on nietzsche much, NSAM. Except ...
Consuela
  09/08/26
I'm not big on him either. I agree that the geneology is the...
The Penis
  09/08/26
I like cioran’s take, that Nietzsche’s whole ube...
Consuela
  09/08/26
Someone just discovered Mencken
John Doyle
  09/08/26
I have a mencken book but have not read it yet. It’s ...
Consuela
  09/08/26
This take is Uninformed and relegated to the dustbin of hist...
wordcel
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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:10 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


this fag is worse than Spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122191)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:10 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122192)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: Tall Man? Yes, you can! (🧐)

poopy diaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122194)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:13 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122199)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: The Penis

hatp is not stupid. I think I can see where you are coming from with "aggressive stupidity" and the SP comparison, although it's a really limited analogy. HaTP is someone that is really outspoken and aggressive about his opinions. He is also effusive and his level of verbal fluidity doesn't match his often poor logical reasoning skills and abstraction discipline. But he isn't stupid by any means, it is just a different kind of intelligence than you see with engineers and aspie lawyers who aced the lsat. Spaceporn is also really aggressive about his opinions and often makes logical reasoning errors that don't really match his level of education. But spaceporn is also abrasive and lacks the social awareness hatp has. He also isn't nearly as verbose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122226)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

This but unironically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122228)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:22 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

Now do gunneratttt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122233)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:45 AM
Author: The Penis

Gunnerattt is almost the perfect poaster to create a sub-thread wasteland when encountering hatp. Gunnerattt’s style is to lock onto a proposition, abstract it, test consistency, and keep pressing until the other person answers that exact proposition. HAtp’s style is more associative and rhetorical he argues from the total feel of the facts, shifts emphasis as new points come up, and is very comfortable reframing the dispute around what seems practically or intuitively compelling. On top of that, hatp is aggressively opinionated and gunner is unusually persistent. So hatp's verbal fluency can make a weak inference sound stronger than it is, while gunnerattt’s persistence can make a valid distinction sound pedantic or obsessive. Then each person interprets the other’s failure in the worst possible way resulting in day long sub-threads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122298)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:51 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)

CR. Most of my subthread wastelands, particularly with hatp, never even get to the substance. I get frustrated when someone won't engage and keeps retreating to nonsequiturs, and I persist beyond sensibility in trying to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122313)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

What do you think holds you back from, you know, stopping at the point where most people know to stop arguing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122333)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:07 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)

Find me a single time I ever got the last word in with you? What happens is that a walk away and then you bait me back by mischaractetizing or straight up inventing what my position is.

Look at the Clancy thread. I responded to the Penis, you replied to that with something irrelevent, I tried to get you to understand and engage with what my OP was saying, gave up, and then ignored and avoided reengaging when you mischaracterized my position.

Now you're dredging up another argument by referencing me specifically and claiming I don't let things go, despite the fact you spent the entire weekend screeding, and on our brief subthread I walked away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122392)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:13 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

Lol you never walk away. You goad me into defending my positions way beyond the point where I want to keep engaging. If we argue for 7 hours and you 'walk away' finally you didn't really walk away. Your entire shtick is 'I'll never be satisfied with your opinions until you agree with everything I say.' It literally doesn't matter what the debate is about, you take extreme offense to me not agreeing with you. And you have a thousand times the capacity to keep arguing about it forever than 99.999% of people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122403)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:15 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900727&mc=204&forum_id=2#50117855

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122408)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:15 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

I'm not reading this. I would never care to read this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122409)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:08 AM
Author: Tall Man? Yes, you can! (🧐)

It's the Speed, Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122395)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122328)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:00 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

This reminds me of the Sam Harris Noam Chomsky email dispute. Sam kept trying to get Chomsky to agree that our military endeavors in Africa were still morally good because we supposedly don't try to kill people if we can avoid it and we always have the greater good in mind. Chomsky kept reminding Harris that all the evidence pointed to our malicious behavior and it didn't matter at all if we had high minded morals when we did it. That's just like us, gunner hypothesizes something lofty and I remind him about the facts over and over.

Just like how gunner denies that I engage with the substance, Harris brow-beat Chomsky with the idea that in order for their email debate to continue, Chomsky had to concede Harris' entire point of view.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122360)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: The Penis

You WOULD think of it that way. Gunner is doing airy abstraction, you're the guy dragging him back to concrete reality. This is how people who are heavily particularist and concrete in their reasoning always see it. Problem is that in the Clancy thread that description is almost backwards in a sense. Gunner’s point was not “lofty” in the sense of being detached from facts. It was a pretty ordinary consistency test. Asking what feature of Clancy’s mental state makes her nonculpable, and would you apply that same principle to other defendants with the same legally relevant impairment? You kept responding with facts that did not answer that question. When you say “I remind him about the facts over and over,” the problem is that facts can be irrelevant to the particular proposition being disputed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122463)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

I don't even understand the deep hypotheticals you two propose. I really believe you should be directed to the French Court of Cassation where they argue hypothetical cases. There's a time and a place for cases that don't exist, and it's not here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122475)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: The Penis

Thats what you aren't understanding. It's not "hypothetical cases that don't exist". It's how to logically apply structure and invariants across cases in a way thats internally logically consistent. You're treating “hypothetical” as though it means inventing a fake concrete case and asking a court to adjudicate it. The hypothetical is functioning as a test of the rule already being applied to the real case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122488)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:47 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

Why would I test a defense theory that counsel hasn't raised?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122497)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)

I think not understanding yet responding with passionate screeds anyway is what OP means by "aggressively stupid."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122489)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:49 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

You: the moon is made of cheese

Me: no it's not

You: "but it's NOT made of cheese!" durrrrrr you're so obtuse you have no ability to conceptualize you retarded chimpanzee!

me: 😑

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122501)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)

High pathos, low logos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122251)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:34 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

If only we could all be as thuper thmart as you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122270)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:44 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)

You just agreed with him? I'm just framing the type of intelligence, or at least argumentative style, he described.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122297)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

does HAtp understand blackjack and card counting?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122442)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 10:25 AM
Author: Consuela

Tough but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122247)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: Debunked antisemitic trope

*bestows upon The Penis an honorary degree in xo studies*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122411)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122415)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122417)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Tall Man? Yes, you can! (🧐)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122480)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: thinkin' about asians (🤔)

born that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122420)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Consuela



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122470)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: John Doyle

Who gives a fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122469)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Consuela

His religion is the Current Thing. The Current Thing is very exciting and important to him. He is not a systematic thinker so he contradicts himself regularly and is led by an underlying erratic emotionalism which loves attention. He is a woman and should use a tampon and wear a bra

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122478)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: John Doyle

Awesome man did Nietzsche tell you that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122484)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: Consuela

I don’t like or rely on nietzsche much, NSAM. Except I like his geneology of morality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122492)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: The Penis

I'm not big on him either. I agree that the geneology is the best example of his most mature thought, and think it is much more defensible than some of his other work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122498)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: Consuela

I like cioran’s take, that Nietzsche’s whole ubermench shtick was a compensation for Nietzsche himself being such a pathetic weakling / sickling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122506)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:49 AM
Author: John Doyle

Someone just discovered Mencken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122500)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: Consuela

I have a mencken book but have not read it yet. It’s low on my priority list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122503)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 11:51 AM
Author: wordcel (Prestige Feuds)

This take is Uninformed and relegated to the dustbin of history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901539&forum_id=2:#50122507)