Pretty fucked up that we just killed millions of wild bison in the 19th century
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:02 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,.
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:07 PM Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)
yes this country and white people in general are shit. their way of life is the worst possible manner of living other than maybe the manner of living in squalor and actual filth to which many south asians are accustomed although Europe is pretty fucking filthy for most of its history and has been and always was
edit: Native Americans were chilling not working and completely straight up chilling until poorly educated unenlighted complete shit white people came and ruined everything
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:12 PM Author: Consuela
The intent, apparently, was to starve the Indians of their primary source of food
So it makes sense, even though terrible and immoral
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:27 PM Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)
No[!], it is not true that 99% of bison died from cattle-borne diseases. The near-extinction of the American bison in the 19th century was driven primarily by industrial-scale commercial hunting, habitat loss, and a deliberate U.S. military policy to eliminate the primary food source of Plains Native American tribes. While cattle diseases and drought contributed minor secondary pressures, the vast majority of the tens of millions of bison were systematically slaughtered by human action.
The Main Drivers of the Decline
Commercial Hunting: A massive market for industrial leather hides and tongues led to the "Great Slaughter" by professional hide hunters.
Military Strategy: The U.S. Army actively encouraged and participated in the destruction of the herds to force Indigenous nations onto reservations by depriving them of sustenance.
Westward Expansion: The expansion of the transcontinental railroad, cattle ranching, and farming fractured bison migration routes and consumed their grassland habitat.
Minor Contributing Factors
Bovine Diseases: Pathogens from domestic livestock like cattle and competition for forage from horses did affect some localized herds, but historians agree this was not the primary cause of the total population collapse.
Climate: Periodic droughts on the plains also strained resources, but human hunting pressure was the decisive factor.
Would you like to explore the specific historical records from the National Park Service regarding the military's role in the bison slaughter, or examine more details on the 19th-century hide trade?
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:32 PM Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)
oh, haha! I knew -- what you wrote was a joke but I was just testing out a more serious response! Definitely you're right that it's a good joke that 6m buffaloe weren't killed! Let me go back and tighten up my previous response which was overbroad! --
Would you like to explore additional responses about Buffalos?!
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:46 PM Author: the wife guy cinematic universe
Lol AI nonsense
https://allaboutbison.com/articles-publications/reinterpreting-the-1882-bison-population-collapse/
Bison numbers exploded when indian populations declined & then tick fever, anthrax etc. did a number on them. They were not hunted into extinction and their numbers declined in various western regions before there was a hide market or even white men present.
"for every animal killed by a hunter, five died of disease, starvation, thirst, exposure, or bogging"
Approximately 4 million bison remained in the northern herd during the 1870s.
Recorded hunting and hide shipments cannot account for their disappearance by 1883.
Texas cattle carrying tick fever entered Montana at roughly the same time and place that the northern herd collapsed.
Contemporary observers reported large numbers of unwounded carcasses.
Therefore, an epidemic killed millions, while hunters killed many of the survivors
Its literally a "white man bad" buffalo holohoax
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,.
They were not hunted into extinction" / "Hunters killed less than the annual increase": This is mathematically and historically rejected by the academic consensus. A direct 2019 rebuttal to Holt’s paper by range scientist Barry Irving showed that the historical harvest was vastly unsustainable. The industrial scale of the 19th-century hide trade (aided by railroads and new rifles) resulted in millions of bison being slaughtered annually.
"For every animal killed by a hunter, five died of disease": There is no concrete empirical evidence to support this specific ratio. While disease was present, quantifying it to say it killed five times as many bison as the commercial hide hunters is considered heavy speculation.
Hide shipments can't account for their disappearance: This ignores the massive amount of waste. Hide hunters often killed bison purely for the tongue or left hundreds of thousands of carcasses rotting on the plains because they couldn't skin them fast enough before they spoiled. Furthermore, the U.S. government and military actively encouraged the slaughter to deprive Native Americans of their primary food source, meaning many kills were never recorded as commercial "shipments."
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:54 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
cattle competition and ecological pressures played a part in this tragedy, but nearly all historians and scientists still reject the claim that hunting was not the primary cause of the collapse.
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:57 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
The impulse to cite some fringe scholarship to prove “White man never did anything wrong” is just as bad as libs “white man always evil” nonsense.
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