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Reading Ishiguro's The Remains of the Day right now. Pretty great so far.
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:29 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency I'm about 100 pages in. He won the Nobel last year, and I had previously read Never Let Me Go, which was 180, so I figured I'd give his first novel a shot. Obviously Japanese, but he was educated in England and writes in English (adeptly so). Plot is first-person narration by an English butler in the early 20th century, thus far almost exclusively reminiscing about his past. Almost like Victorian style shit like Pride and Prejudice or Jane Eyre, where not a whole lot "happens," but the character development is very strong and the dialogue is awesome. An extended passage about the "dignity" displayed by the narrator's father, who was also a butler, was outstanding. I am excited to read the rest this weekend. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:57 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm there's a great passage where the narrator observes his father as the sun sets one evening, i read this book in HS and nearly 20 years later i still remember that bit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059841) |
Date: May 12th, 2018 1:39 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035044) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:39 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce Sounds good! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035047) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:40 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency it is man, you should check it out but if you haven't read Never Let Me Go, start with that |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:42 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce I own it but have never read it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035067) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:42 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce Your recommendation makes me want to read it though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035069) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:44 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency yeah it is really interesting now reading the novel in my OP that was his first, because the only thing they seem to have in common is the setting (England). Never Let Me Go is essentially sci-fi, but in its most minimalist form. The sci-fi element is so fundamental to the entire plot, and yet you barely notice it's there. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:45 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce yeah I have a vague idea what it's about
the one you described in the OP seems more interesting though |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:49 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency another 180 anecdote the narrator recounts: being instructed by his lord to give a guest's soon-to-be-married twentysomething son "the facts of life" talk, because the kid's father is too pussy to do it or something. Butler approaches kid and is like "I have a message to convey. You are aware, I presume, that there are several important distinctions between ladies and gentlemen?" then tries to steer the conversation toward nature (geese, fish, etc.) He never successfully finishes the talk because he always gets interrupted by other matters to attend to. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce thats hilarious
im sold! |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:53 AM Author: Crystalline razzle-dazzle rehab puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035111) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency I can't tell if you're flaming me or not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035120) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce I'm not I'm being entirely honest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035124) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:59 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm never let me go is so so good, i loved how there's this mystery as to what's going on, the twist is never explicitly revealed, but it becomes obvious anyway, and it happens with like half the novel left anyway - it's so kooky and 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059847) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:04 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency yeah it's 180 as I stated above ITT, it's extremely understated sci-fi. Like the sci-fi element is so crucial to the whole plot, yet it's very rarely even discussed |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:07 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm it's so little discussed that i think it can be called sci-fi but it'd be wrong to put it on a sci-fi shelf at the bookstore you're right on all fronts |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:38 AM Author: Soul-stirring twinkling uncleanness I read it, it was good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059809) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: Lavender Quadroon the movie is on netflix (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035070) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:45 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency yeah I saw that, one of the other reasons I thought of it in the first place. but I am always a book-before-moviemo. I have to develop my own imagination of the characters before I take in someone else's intepretation. looks good, though. got a bunch of Oscar noms. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:50 AM Author: bateful chestnut alpha this book is disquieting AS FUCK, and 180 all around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035103) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:51 AM Author: bateful chestnut alpha Also his newest novel is pretty great also. A true successor to Kafka in some ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035107) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:58 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency yeah I didn't want to reveal the major plot point involving the narrator's father that happens like ~90 pages in, but that shit shook me bad. Luckily, the chapter break happens right after it, so I was able to put it down and digest. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: drab selfie This thread made me want to stick my head in an oven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035118) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: Abusive Racy Dilemma Lettuce Never had you pegged as a Sylvia Plath fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035121) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:57 AM Author: flushed mexican there was a movie, you know. its pretty good. not amazing or anything, but solid.
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Date: May 12th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency see above, always gotta do book before movie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035149) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: flushed mexican its kind of a story about nothing, to be honest. more of a nice window into aristocratic england. have fun reading! sorry for spoiling it for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035155) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 2:03 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency lol you're not spoiling anything, man, what you described is obvious from the first 1/3 of the book. Like I said, it's written in that Victorian style where nothing "happens" but the characters are 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36035166) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:10 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency UPDATE: finished it. Truly excellent. Highly recommend. The ending was ABSOLUTELY | DEVASTATING but pitch perfect.
Watched the film adaptation, and although it was more or less fine (Hopkins and Thompson turned in great performances), they took some subtle yet serious liberties, two in particular that I remember, both involving Stevens (the narrator) and Miss Kenton. One is when Stevens is walking past Miss Kenton's room and he hears her weeping (shortly after she had told him she was getting married). In the book, he pauses and listens for a few moments, but then just keeps walking, another example of a time when a less aspie man (or at least a man less type-A dedicated to his job) would've been a friend and comforted her. In the movie, they have him go in and talk to her. Then, even more inexplicably, right at the end: in the book, Miss Kenton basically straight up tells Stevens in their last conversation that she sometimes imagined what life would've been like "with" him, clearly meaning if they had been together. In the movie, they somehow deleted this line entirely and just left the connection strongly implied. Really pissed me off. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm welcome to the ishiguro hype train, one of my top three living authors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059849) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:09 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency who else? Cormac? |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:37 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency but for real, read this book bros you can blaze through it in a few days |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: beady-eyed obsidian associate why are gooks writing novels about being english butlers. mind your own business. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:02 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm moved to the UK at 5yo, he's british for all intensive purposes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059855) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:04 AM Author: charcoal property national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059860) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 3:08 AM Author: beady-eyed obsidian associate that's not how it works (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059982) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm to the extent we're talking about someone who's only living memories are of being in the UK, yeah it sort of does, shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36060904) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:16 AM Author: indecent adulterous casino ive read it. XOXO BIGASIA must read list. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36059886) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: Bronze crackhouse pisswyrm he's british (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36060905) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: charcoal property national security agency gonna try to cop dat THE BURIED GIANT at the library this week 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#36062860) |
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Date: July 6th, 2026 10:59 AM Author: propecia mathematica Finished this book a couple days ago and still thinking about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3974929&forum_id=2:#49981429) |