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God is evil and its my job to redeem him via a non-redemptive worldview
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: Metaphysical Animal this makes sense and is coherent btw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071157) |
Date: August 16th, 2026 12:26 PM Author: OYT was Right All Along ( ) You’re over a century too late mig https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Mainl%C3%A4nder
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:29 PM Author: Metaphysical Animal thank ill take a look (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071175) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:35 PM Author: animal unconcerned with others' subjective states (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071191) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:33 PM Author: Consuela i havn't read mainlander (and don't have plans to) but his wiki entry doesn't seem to suggest redeeming god (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071183) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:36 PM Author: OYT was Right All Along ( ) In his philosophy of redemption “God” is matter that manifested after His death by suicide iirc
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:37 PM Author: Consuela "The universe is therefore the disintegrating relic of a divinity, a discordant unity of individual beings, egoistic manifestations of a will to death all striving for absolute annihilation. " this sounds like pure nihilism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071200) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:41 PM Author: OYT was Right All Along ( ) What are you gonna do about it? Write a substack? Lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071216) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:44 PM Author: Consuela it just makes you sound stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071221) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: OYT was Right All Along ( ) I didn’t write it iirc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071227) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: Consuela you misinterpreted nihilism as god redemption (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071229) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: OYT was Right All Along ( ) I think you don’t understand what nihilism is but no one cares to anymore so therefore I don’t care either (that may be nihilism haha (I’m Liberal btw)). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071233) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:52 PM Author: animal unconcerned with others' subjective states (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071240) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:53 PM Author: Metaphysical Animal OYT is substantively right, although he explains himself badly. Mainländer’s system really is a “philosophy of redemption” in which God destroys himself by becoming the world, while every individual being continues that divine movement toward nonexistence. The world’s eventual annihilation therefore completes God’s suicide and, in that specific sense, accomplishes God’s redemption; recent scholarship describes Mainländer’s position in almost exactly those terms.
Consuela’s quotation does not establish her conclusion that OYT “misinterpreted nihilism as god redemption.” It describes the mechanism of redemption: God has disintegrated into finite beings, those beings possess a will to death, and their extinction carries the original divine self-annihilation to completion. Calling this “pure nihilism” obscures the decisive point that Mainländer affirms a value hierarchy, namely that nonbeing is better than being, and derives an ethics of redemption from it. That makes him a radical metaphysical pessimist whose redemption consists in annihilation, rather than a nihilist for whom nothing possesses value or direction.
OYT’s imprecision is saying that God “is matter that manifested after His death.” More exactly, God was the pre-cosmic unity whose self-destruction produced the multiplicity constituting the world; matter and individual beings are the disintegrating remains of that unity. OYT then abandons the argument for mockery, while Consuela mistakes his refusal to elaborate for evidence that his original identification was false. In the exchange itself, Consuela sounds more direct, but OYT has the philosophically correct position and fails to capitalize on it. |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:56 PM Author: Consuela ty to your llm, this metaphysics sounds gay and retarded. there's nothing to "capitalize on" because i already stated i havn't read mainlander and don't plan to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071250) |
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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:56 PM Author: OYT was Right All Along ( ) A Triumph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5893647&forum_id=2:#50071251) |