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Inflation Is Basically Back to Normal. Why Do Voters Still Feel Blah?
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:46 AM Author: Racy navy hairy legs university Consumers still give the U.S. economy poor marks, though the job market is strong and price increases have faded for months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262438) |
Date: October 31st, 2024 9:47 AM Author: Chocolate dingle berry cumskin Only economists think of inflation this way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262442) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:47 AM Author: Razzmatazz Dilemma Codepig This is like asking why I'm still upset after my basement flood stopped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262446) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:48 AM Author: Stirring Narrow-minded Pit Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262449) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:19 AM Author: Heady azn death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262553) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:39 AM Author: mustard exciting field sex offender ... but there's still standing water in the basement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262669) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:43 AM Author: Disturbing Aromatic Hospital Legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262696) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:10 AM Author: swashbuckling address gay wizard also, if you don’t measure half of the water, the flood isn’t nearly as bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262830) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:10 AM Author: concupiscible tanning salon circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262836) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:10 AM Author: concupiscible tanning salon circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262834) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:11 AM Author: hairless galvanic theatre Why don’t you like paying $15 for a value meal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262839) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:16 PM Author: Stirring Narrow-minded Pit Digit Ratio there's still some water coming in but it's coming in slower than all of the water that's pooled in your basement currently (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263227) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:18 PM Author: Razzmatazz Dilemma Codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263248) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:25 PM Author: Heady azn death wish the possessions you've stored in your basement are being destroyed somewhat slower than they were previously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263303) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 2:49 PM Author: Disrespectful dun range party of the first part there are also a bunch of illegal mexicans living in your basement. but I digress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48264027) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 8:00 PM Author: Heady azn death wish no, there is no plan to pump the water or evict the mexicans from your basement. and no, we are not planning on patching the hole the water and mexicans streamed in through. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265423) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 1:40 AM Author: Stirring Narrow-minded Pit Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48266494) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:57 PM Author: sadistic bat shit crazy mood rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265843) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:57 PM Author: sable soul-stirring resort immigrant Maybe you shouldn’t own a basement after all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265844) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:03 PM Author: stubborn onyx prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265881) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:48 AM Author: Wine persian roast beef prices don't fade, they just stop rising, and salaries take years to catch up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262454) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: nighttime parlor Because they remember the first time they went to the store in 2022 and got brutally GRAPED by Bidenflation. Oh, and prices are down like 5% after rising 50-200%, hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262455) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: Stirring Narrow-minded Pit Digit Ratio Prices aren't "down" at all they're just increasing at a lower rate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262461) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: passionate trailer park just a chill one time 150% bump in all necessities over the past 3.5 years hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262456) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: gaped boyish site kitty The consequences of not making calculus mandatory in HS or college have been a disaster for the US.
Hint: It's not the slope of the function but the area under the curve that people are bitching about. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:50 AM Author: passionate trailer park irony is that dumb proles understand this more than 115 iq poli sci shitheads advising the dems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262465) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:51 AM Author: gaped boyish site kitty The reason the bell curve meme has such staying power is because it's so descriptive of real life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262470) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:52 AM Author: passionate trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262478) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:53 AM Author: flushed federal nursing home Because the 115 iq poli schi shitheads advising the dems don't feel the issue the way proles do and, if they do, they are willing to listen to the experts who tell them that the eonomy is booming. Or, you know, they are being dishonest. This is another trust the experts issue. Belive us, the numbers show, you guys are doing GREAT! |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:58 AM Author: passionate trailer park it's clearly outright dishonesty. we're well to do and the price of groceries being up 2-3x wont affect our life one bit, but it's completely fucking obvious to us and ever 115 iq poli sci shithead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262501) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:42 PM Author: Pearly dashing institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265346) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:01 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend Trump’s policies will make this wayyyyyyy worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262509) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:15 AM Author: flushed federal nursing home Trust the experts! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262543) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:36 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend I’d love to hear your argument that massive tax cuts without corollary decreases in spending, price increases from tariffs, and a tightened labor market will not result in inflationary pressure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262645) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:42 AM Author: gaped boyish site kitty Trump's policies include a minimum $2 trillion in spending cuts and mass unemployment of bureaucrats which are both deflationary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262692) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:44 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend Lmao. You don’t *really* believe don is going to cut spending by $2T do you? Lmao holy shit cons don’t know anything and never learn at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262702) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:54 AM Author: gaped boyish site kitty You don't *really* believe SpaceX is gonna catch a fucking rocket falling out of the sky do you?
The same guy in charge of that is gonna be in charge of cutting the government. Seeing as he cut X headcount by 90% with no degradation of services, I think he know what he's doing. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:57 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend Date: October 31st, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
You don't *really* believe SpaceX is gonna catch a fucking rocket falling out of the sky do you? The same guy in charge of that is gonna be in charge of cutting the government. Seeing as he cut X headcount by 90% with no degradation of services, I think he know what he's doing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2#48262746) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:44 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend Date: October 31st, 2024 10:42 AM Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
Trump's policies include a minimum $2 trillion in spending cuts and mass unemployment of bureaucrats which are both deflationary.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2#48262692) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2026 4:35 PM Author: World's Most Powerful Reset!!! Just touching base here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#50151616) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:52 AM Author: Provocative underhanded athletic conference native that isn't going to happen, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262737) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:57 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend It’s amazing how many trumpmos still believe every single word don the con says.
They never learn! |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:38 AM Author: Provocative underhanded athletic conference native i'm in favor of him winning but just because he's burning everything down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262966) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:44 PM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend Why? America is thriving.
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:39 AM Author: cream mischievous giraffe idiot You switching back to your obeezy moniker if kamala wins you cowardly faggot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262976) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:45 AM Author: flushed federal nursing home I'm not an expert but we'll see what unfolds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262707) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:47 AM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend You seem retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262716) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:03 AM Author: flushed federal nursing home Hmmm, his policies first term seemed fine with regard to inflation. Tell me this genius, if policy is so tied to inflation and so easy to predict, why did it spike with Biden? If Trump's policies= inflation then why doesn't Biden's policies =/ inflation. The answer? NOBODY fucking knows and it isn't an easy problem. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:43 PM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend Inflation spiked due to worldwide pressures from Covid and war.
Trump had a very different set of policies (Paul Ryan’s) in his first term. His current proposals are highly inflationary and amount to a regressive tax that will primarily hurt his working class supporters. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:33 AM Author: submissive slate temple tax cuts aren't a form of spending nor are they decreases in revenue. you really seem to think they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262926) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:05 PM Author: Violent deranged house preventive strike This bullshit drives me absolutely insane. Uttering "tax expenditures" should be a death penalty offense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263112) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:41 PM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend I didn’t say tax cuts were a form of spending. Trump’s tax cuts decreased revenue. I’d imagine the next round will as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265340) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:14 AM Author: Khaki Theater Strong job market? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262541) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:17 AM Author: lake tantric knife it took ~16 years for Gen X to recover their losses from 2008 crash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262548) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:24 PM Author: rose orchestra pit More like 7 or 8 for the S&P 500, I thought ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263296) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 2:10 PM Author: bisexual aphrodisiac pistol Most of them never did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48268337) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:38 AM Author: multi-colored telephone location Isnt inflation solely a function of how much money is printed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262662) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:40 AM Author: dark sinister casino cuck Yes, and taxation to a lesser extent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262674) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:51 AM Author: multi-colored telephone location are higher taxes good or bad for inflation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262734) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:07 AM Author: 180 mentally impaired doctorate menage higher tax = reduced inflation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262818) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:31 AM Author: multi-colored telephone location why are people blaming biden for inflation. money printing happened under bush, obama, trump, and biden (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48262919) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:57 AM Author: 180 mentally impaired doctorate menage The Inflation Reduction Act, a hallmark of the Biden admin, was really he cherry on top to supercharge inflation.
Also, it was under Biden's admin that so much of the free cash giveaways occurred. Also under his watch TRILLION$ went to the real estate space and shockingly, real estate skyrocketed and is the largest piece of inflation. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:10 PM Author: cream mischievous giraffe idiot Dont forget the 6 trillion COVID spending (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263165) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:41 PM Author: 180 mentally impaired doctorate menage i am not. its sick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263695) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:40 PM Author: Adventurous mewling shitlib organic girlfriend No. Inflation went down almost every quarter after passage of the IRA so it definitely didn’t “super charge” inflation.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:00 PM Author: mustard exciting field sex offender Not solely. There are other things that "create" money in the economy like how much credit is issued. Similarly, money is "destroyed" when people default on debt. This is why a bunch of stimulus didn't cause inflation in 2008.
The elephant in the room is that from a debt perspective, when you consider both public and private debt we're in a worse situation than we were in 2008. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:16 PM Author: multi-colored telephone location What Im trying to figure out is how the inflation can be pinned on Biden.
The Inflation Reduction Act was basically an infrastructure bill that could increase inflation. But was it all due to that?
The stimuluses during covid and post covid were at the end of Trumps term and the beginning of Bidens term. There was also stimulus during Obama.
The fed also printed a lot more money during the Trump admin and Biden admin.
Trump did Tax cuts and they have largely remained for Biden admin.
How do all those things work together were you can point to someone and say 'that caused inflation.' |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:20 PM Author: mustard exciting field sex offender When you send Ukraine several hundred billion and then Israel another hundred billion and Taiwan and others another however many billions all while also spending on other bs and allowing in a ton of illegal immigrants who we also fund it is really hard not to blame the administration for the resulting inflation.
People are far more sympathetic to tax cuts which is ultimately letting people keep the money they earned as opposed to giving it to a bunch of foreigners on dubious grounds. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:18 PM Author: bearded peach mental disorder Sending old military equipment to Ukraine doesn’t increase inflation in the USA you retard. Inflation is caused by increasing dollar supply in the USA plus COVID supply chain disruptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263584) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 6:07 PM Author: Stirring Narrow-minded Pit Digit Ratio Do they replace the equipment they sent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265024) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:54 PM Author: gold bawdyhouse wang hernandez btfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48265831) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:58 PM Author: mustard exciting field sex offender They also sent straight up cash too. Ukraine has been paying their pensions with US taxpayer dollars, for example. They've been paying their military (and mercenaries) with our money too. No, it isn't hundreds of billions of dollars of "old stuff." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48266089) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:57 PM Author: mustard exciting field sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48266086) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 3:22 AM Author: Histrionic slimy wagecucks So Biden never sent Ukraine any cash. That's your position? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48266559) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:15 PM Author: bearded peach mental disorder The Dems completely shutdown the supply chains and business operations due to COVID hysteria and then pumped the economy full of dollars. Hence the inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263572) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:01 PM Author: bearded peach mental disorder lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263087) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:06 PM Author: Violent deranged house preventive strike Inflation is when demand increases relative to supply. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263122) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 3:21 PM Author: talented crackhouse fortuitous meteor That’s demand pull inflation. There’s also cost push inflation, which is when production costs increase. And built in inflation, which basically comes normally with shit like standard raises every year for even shit employees. And others. Money supply matters but it’s clearly not the only variable given that we had almost no inflation for a long time with huge money supply stimulus. If there’s no demand then there won’t be inflation even where dollars are floating around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48264222) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 3:36 PM Author: dark sinister casino cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48264298) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:01 PM Author: Violent deranged house preventive strike Cost push inflation is just demand pull inflation except political scientists with spreadsheets have fucked around with the “numbers” the only factor is more money chasing fewer goods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48266101) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 3:17 PM Author: talented crackhouse fortuitous meteor No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48264193) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:03 PM Author: lake tantric knife the only way to fix Inflation historically is to kill off an entire generation of young men (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263102) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:19 PM Author: rebellious boiling water partner Getting raped by the housing market hurts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48263588) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:56 PM Author: mustard exciting field sex offender In general, telling people they're doing really well when they feel like they're doing poorly isn't a great strategy. Showing people a graph when they know what's in their bank account isn't going to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48266303) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 2:04 PM Author: sadistic bat shit crazy mood rehab can we please lynch paul krugman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2[/quote#48268305) |
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