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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
Thriller international law enforcement agency
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
House-broken cruise ship friendly grandma
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
Thriller international law enforcement agency
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
House-broken cruise ship friendly grandma
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
House-broken cruise ship friendly grandma
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
crystalline irradiated voyeur location
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
Thriller international law enforcement agency
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
Thriller international law enforcement agency
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
Thriller international law enforcement agency
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
deranged national
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
Beady-eyed Headpube
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/05/26
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Rose filthpig institution
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
effete twinkling doctorate wrinkle
  04/05/26
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deranged national
  04/05/26
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motley gaped nursing home double fault
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
concupiscible snowy selfie plaza
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
appetizing community account really tough guy
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
misanthropic pit
  04/06/26
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canary provocative volcanic crater kitty
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Rose filthpig institution
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
misanthropic pit
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Rose filthpig institution
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Thriller international law enforcement agency

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796396)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: House-broken cruise ship friendly grandma

He's undoubtedly top 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796399)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796405)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Thriller international law enforcement agency

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796411)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796419)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: House-broken cruise ship friendly grandma

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796426)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: House-broken cruise ship friendly grandma

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796436)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

all 3 above above ryan?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796437)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: crystalline irradiated voyeur location

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796451)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Thriller international law enforcement agency

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796401)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

he's def most high iq though, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796407)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Thriller international law enforcement agency

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796409)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796413)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Thriller international law enforcement agency

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796417)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796421)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: deranged national

he's appropriately rated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796444)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Headpube

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796446)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796448)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Rose filthpig institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49797805)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: effete twinkling doctorate wrinkle

Pedro was better (than anyone).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796514)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: deranged national



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: motley gaped nursing home double fault



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: concupiscible snowy selfie plaza

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796569)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: appetizing community account really tough guy

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49796577)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: misanthropic pit

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49797104)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: canary provocative volcanic crater kitty



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Rose filthpig institution

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49797984)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: misanthropic pit

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49798932)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Rose filthpig institution

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2]#49799605)