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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
pearl puppy
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
wine concupiscible famous landscape painting
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
pearl puppy
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
wine concupiscible famous landscape painting
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
wine concupiscible famous landscape painting
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
Talented Preventive Strike
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
pearl puppy
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
pearl puppy
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
pearl puppy
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
topaz nudist plaza laser beams
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
tan yarmulke
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/05/26
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Jade national
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
poppy range
  04/05/26
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topaz nudist plaza laser beams
  04/05/26
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pale bearded area old irish cottage
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
opaque goal in life
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Mauve Metal Location
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
navy rambunctious space
  04/06/26
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flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Jade national
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
navy rambunctious space
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Jade national
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: pearl puppy

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: wine concupiscible famous landscape painting

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: pearl puppy

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: wine concupiscible famous landscape painting

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: wine concupiscible famous landscape painting

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Talented Preventive Strike

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: pearl puppy

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: pearl puppy

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: pearl puppy

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: topaz nudist plaza laser beams

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: tan yarmulke

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Jade national



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: poppy range

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: topaz nudist plaza laser beams



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: pale bearded area old irish cottage



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: opaque goal in life

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Mauve Metal Location

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: navy rambunctious space

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: flatulent stirring mad-dog skullcap telephone



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Jade national

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: navy rambunctious space

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Jade national

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

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