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Inflation Is Basically Back to Normal. Why Do Voters Still Feel Blah?
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:46 AM Author: laughsome mediation rehab Consumers still give the U.S. economy poor marks, though the job market is strong and price increases have faded for months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262438) |
Date: October 31st, 2024 9:47 AM Author: Onyx passionate dopamine Only economists think of inflation this way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262442) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:47 AM Author: Poppy Menage Boltzmann This is like asking why I'm still upset after my basement flood stopped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262446) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:48 AM Author: Carnelian unholy whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262449) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: Chocolate Adventurous Partner Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262460) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:54 AM Author: Jet-lagged Odious Center French Chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262484) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:55 AM Author: carmine vivacious brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262492) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:58 AM Author: jade ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262502) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:19 AM Author: Exciting Azure Hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262553) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:39 AM Author: medicated white parlour ... but there's still standing water in the basement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262669) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:43 AM Author: peach step-uncle's house wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262696) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:50 AM Author: Exhilarant main people fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262732) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:10 AM Author: at-the-ready public bath also, if you don’t measure half of the water, the flood isn’t nearly as bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262830) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:10 AM Author: Emerald office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262836) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:37 AM Author: Floppy burgundy native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262963) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:25 PM Author: Exciting Azure Hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263306) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:41 PM Author: Irate theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265338) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:58 PM Author: motley box office fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265848) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:03 PM Author: fluffy bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265882) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:10 AM Author: Emerald office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262834) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:11 AM Author: Citrine thirsty garrison Why don’t you like paying $15 for a value meal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262839) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:37 AM Author: Floppy burgundy native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262959) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:38 AM Author: swashbuckling meetinghouse rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262968) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:16 PM Author: Carnelian unholy whorehouse there's still some water coming in but it's coming in slower than all of the water that's pooled in your basement currently (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263227) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:18 PM Author: Poppy Menage Boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263248) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:25 PM Author: Exciting Azure Hominid the possessions you've stored in your basement are being destroyed somewhat slower than they were previously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263303) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 2:49 PM Author: aggressive hell there are also a bunch of illegal mexicans living in your basement. but I digress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48264027) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 8:00 PM Author: Exciting Azure Hominid no, there is no plan to pump the water or evict the mexicans from your basement. and no, we are not planning on patching the hole the water and mexicans streamed in through. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265423) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 1:40 AM Author: Carnelian unholy whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48266494) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:57 PM Author: motley box office fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265843) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:57 PM Author: Lilac skinny woman corner Maybe you shouldn’t own a basement after all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265844) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:03 PM Author: fluffy bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265881) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:48 AM Author: Bat-shit-crazy aromatic institution stain prices don't fade, they just stop rising, and salaries take years to catch up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262454) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: sooty abnormal casino gay wizard Because they remember the first time they went to the store in 2022 and got brutally GRAPED by Bidenflation. Oh, and prices are down like 5% after rising 50-200%, hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262455) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: Carnelian unholy whorehouse Prices aren't "down" at all they're just increasing at a lower rate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262461) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:28 AM Author: Blathering Pink Masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262909) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: Cruel-hearted flickering crackhouse just a chill one time 150% bump in all necessities over the past 3.5 years hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262456) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:49 AM Author: Pale principal's office voyeur The consequences of not making calculus mandatory in HS or college have been a disaster for the US.
Hint: It's not the slope of the function but the area under the curve that people are bitching about. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:50 AM Author: Cruel-hearted flickering crackhouse irony is that dumb proles understand this more than 115 iq poli sci shitheads advising the dems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262465) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:51 AM Author: Pale principal's office voyeur The reason the bell curve meme has such staying power is because it's so descriptive of real life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262470) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:52 AM Author: Cruel-hearted flickering crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262478) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:53 AM Author: Chocolate Adventurous Partner Chapel Because the 115 iq poli schi shitheads advising the dems don't feel the issue the way proles do and, if they do, they are willing to listen to the experts who tell them that the eonomy is booming. Or, you know, they are being dishonest. This is another trust the experts issue. Belive us, the numbers show, you guys are doing GREAT! |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:58 AM Author: Cruel-hearted flickering crackhouse it's clearly outright dishonesty. we're well to do and the price of groceries being up 2-3x wont affect our life one bit, but it's completely fucking obvious to us and ever 115 iq poli sci shithead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262501) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:42 PM Author: Irate theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265346) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:01 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker Trump’s policies will make this wayyyyyyy worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262509) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:15 AM Author: Chocolate Adventurous Partner Chapel Trust the experts! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262543) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:36 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker I’d love to hear your argument that massive tax cuts without corollary decreases in spending, price increases from tariffs, and a tightened labor market will not result in inflationary pressure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262645) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:42 AM Author: Pale principal's office voyeur Trump's policies include a minimum $2 trillion in spending cuts and mass unemployment of bureaucrats which are both deflationary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262692) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:44 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker Lmao. You don’t *really* believe don is going to cut spending by $2T do you? Lmao holy shit cons don’t know anything and never learn at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262702) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Pale principal's office voyeur You don't *really* believe SpaceX is gonna catch a fucking rocket falling out of the sky do you?
The same guy in charge of that is gonna be in charge of cutting the government. Seeing as he cut X headcount by 90% with no degradation of services, I think he know what he's doing. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:57 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker Date: October 31st, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
You don't *really* believe SpaceX is gonna catch a fucking rocket falling out of the sky do you? The same guy in charge of that is gonna be in charge of cutting the government. Seeing as he cut X headcount by 90% with no degradation of services, I think he know what he's doing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2#48262746) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:44 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker Date: October 31st, 2024 10:42 AM Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
Trump's policies include a minimum $2 trillion in spending cuts and mass unemployment of bureaucrats which are both deflationary.
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Date: September 23rd, 2026 4:35 PM Author: World's Most Powerful Reset!!! Just touching base here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#50151616) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:52 AM Author: Lascivious Nursing Home that isn't going to happen, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262737) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:57 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker It’s amazing how many trumpmos still believe every single word don the con says.
They never learn! |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:38 AM Author: Lascivious Nursing Home i'm in favor of him winning but just because he's burning everything down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262966) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:44 PM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker Why? America is thriving.
I am glad to see when cons rip the mask off and just admit they hate America and want to destroy it though. 180 ty |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:39 AM Author: Floppy burgundy native You switching back to your obeezy moniker if kamala wins you cowardly faggot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262976) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:45 AM Author: Chocolate Adventurous Partner Chapel I'm not an expert but we'll see what unfolds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262707) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:47 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker You seem retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262716) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:03 AM Author: Chocolate Adventurous Partner Chapel Hmmm, his policies first term seemed fine with regard to inflation. Tell me this genius, if policy is so tied to inflation and so easy to predict, why did it spike with Biden? If Trump's policies= inflation then why doesn't Biden's policies =/ inflation. The answer? NOBODY fucking knows and it isn't an easy problem. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:43 PM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker Inflation spiked due to worldwide pressures from Covid and war.
Trump had a very different set of policies (Paul Ryan’s) in his first term. His current proposals are highly inflationary and amount to a regressive tax that will primarily hurt his working class supporters. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:33 AM Author: Blathering Pink Masturbator tax cuts aren't a form of spending nor are they decreases in revenue. you really seem to think they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262926) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:05 PM Author: Coiffed yellow state double fault This bullshit drives me absolutely insane. Uttering "tax expenditures" should be a death penalty offense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263112) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:41 PM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker I didn’t say tax cuts were a form of spending. Trump’s tax cuts decreased revenue. I’d imagine the next round will as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265340) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:14 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle Stag Film Dysfunction Strong job market? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262541) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:17 AM Author: Judgmental talking orchestra pit it took ~16 years for Gen X to recover their losses from 2008 crash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262548) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:24 PM Author: cobalt ungodly ratface halford More like 7 or 8 for the S&P 500, I thought ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263296) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 2:10 PM Author: excitant foreskin mental disorder Most of them never did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48268337) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:38 AM Author: hairless beta plaza hairy legs Isnt inflation solely a function of how much money is printed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262662) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:40 AM Author: Electric mexican party of the first part Yes, and taxation to a lesser extent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262674) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:51 AM Author: hairless beta plaza hairy legs are higher taxes good or bad for inflation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262734) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:07 AM Author: carmine vivacious brunch higher tax = reduced inflation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262818) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:31 AM Author: hairless beta plaza hairy legs why are people blaming biden for inflation. money printing happened under bush, obama, trump, and biden (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48262919) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:57 AM Author: carmine vivacious brunch The Inflation Reduction Act, a hallmark of the Biden admin, was really he cherry on top to supercharge inflation.
Also, it was under Biden's admin that so much of the free cash giveaways occurred. Also under his watch TRILLION$ went to the real estate space and shockingly, real estate skyrocketed and is the largest piece of inflation. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:10 PM Author: Floppy burgundy native Dont forget the 6 trillion COVID spending (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263165) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:41 PM Author: carmine vivacious brunch i am not. its sick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263695) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 7:40 PM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Razzmatazz Selfie Candlestick Maker No. Inflation went down almost every quarter after passage of the IRA so it definitely didn’t “super charge” inflation.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:00 PM Author: medicated white parlour Not solely. There are other things that "create" money in the economy like how much credit is issued. Similarly, money is "destroyed" when people default on debt. This is why a bunch of stimulus didn't cause inflation in 2008.
The elephant in the room is that from a debt perspective, when you consider both public and private debt we're in a worse situation than we were in 2008. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:16 PM Author: hairless beta plaza hairy legs What Im trying to figure out is how the inflation can be pinned on Biden.
The Inflation Reduction Act was basically an infrastructure bill that could increase inflation. But was it all due to that?
The stimuluses during covid and post covid were at the end of Trumps term and the beginning of Bidens term. There was also stimulus during Obama.
The fed also printed a lot more money during the Trump admin and Biden admin.
Trump did Tax cuts and they have largely remained for Biden admin.
How do all those things work together were you can point to someone and say 'that caused inflation.' |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:20 PM Author: medicated white parlour When you send Ukraine several hundred billion and then Israel another hundred billion and Taiwan and others another however many billions all while also spending on other bs and allowing in a ton of illegal immigrants who we also fund it is really hard not to blame the administration for the resulting inflation.
People are far more sympathetic to tax cuts which is ultimately letting people keep the money they earned as opposed to giving it to a bunch of foreigners on dubious grounds. |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:18 PM Author: zombie-like locale Sending old military equipment to Ukraine doesn’t increase inflation in the USA you retard. Inflation is caused by increasing dollar supply in the USA plus COVID supply chain disruptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263584) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 6:07 PM Author: Carnelian unholy whorehouse Do they replace the equipment they sent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265024) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:54 PM Author: appetizing overrated striped hyena legal warrant wang hernandez btfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48265831) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:58 PM Author: medicated white parlour They also sent straight up cash too. Ukraine has been paying their pensions with US taxpayer dollars, for example. They've been paying their military (and mercenaries) with our money too. No, it isn't hundreds of billions of dollars of "old stuff." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48266089) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 10:57 PM Author: medicated white parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48266086) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 3:22 AM Author: Misanthropic seedy address therapy So Biden never sent Ukraine any cash. That's your position? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48266559) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:15 PM Author: zombie-like locale The Dems completely shutdown the supply chains and business operations due to COVID hysteria and then pumped the economy full of dollars. Hence the inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263572) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:01 PM Author: zombie-like locale lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263087) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:06 PM Author: Coiffed yellow state double fault Inflation is when demand increases relative to supply. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263122) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 3:21 PM Author: high-end maniacal tanning salon laser beams That’s demand pull inflation. There’s also cost push inflation, which is when production costs increase. And built in inflation, which basically comes normally with shit like standard raises every year for even shit employees. And others. Money supply matters but it’s clearly not the only variable given that we had almost no inflation for a long time with huge money supply stimulus. If there’s no demand then there won’t be inflation even where dollars are floating around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48264222) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 3:36 PM Author: Electric mexican party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48264298) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:01 PM Author: Coiffed yellow state double fault Cost push inflation is just demand pull inflation except political scientists with spreadsheets have fucked around with the “numbers” the only factor is more money chasing fewer goods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48266101) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 3:17 PM Author: high-end maniacal tanning salon laser beams No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48264193) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 12:03 PM Author: Judgmental talking orchestra pit the only way to fix Inflation historically is to kill off an entire generation of young men (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263102) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 1:19 PM Author: cyan rough-skinned affirmative action Getting raped by the housing market hurts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48263588) |
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Date: October 31st, 2024 11:56 PM Author: medicated white parlour In general, telling people they're doing really well when they feel like they're doing poorly isn't a great strategy. Showing people a graph when they know what's in their bank account isn't going to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48266303) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 2:04 PM Author: motley box office fanboi can we please lynch paul krugman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48268305) |
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Date: November 6th, 2024 9:05 AM Author: Blathering Pink Masturbator cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621691&forum_id=2Ã#48297988) |