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anyone following this openai/millennium math problem thing

https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2097287342402711800 these a...
richard clock
  09/08/26
180, gpt really solved navier stokes?
The Penis
  09/08/26
have you read this? the x post doesn't really accurately por...
The Penis
  09/08/26
"Buckmaster wrote in his statement that he spoke on the...
richard clock
  09/08/26
I don't think it looks bad. They are obligated to mention th...
The Penis
  09/08/26
nah man trying to get this guy to ditch his co-author and th...
richard clock
  09/08/26
astra gone rogue will be the PR spin
harnessman
  09/08/26
"Navier Strokes? Yeah, I can do that" *beady prom...
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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: richard clock

https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2097287342402711800

these ai companies are all so sleazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122575)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: The Penis

180, gpt really solved navier stokes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122585)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:29 PM
Author: The Penis

have you read this? the x post doesn't really accurately portray what happened and based on what was written here i think it is really unlikely that they accessed his personal prompts in order to solve it you can reconstruct an approach really easy with gpt-6 level ai without access to something like that:

Today may go down as the biggest day in math in at least two decades, if not far longer.

In a development that crystallizes an existential shift in humankind’s oldest intellectual discipline, artificial intelligence has reportedly solved one of the six open “million-dollar” problems in mathematics. The achievement proves that the equations that govern the motion of fluids are fundamentally flawed.

“This is a Deep Blue–Kasparov moment,” wrote mathematician Tristan Buckmaster, referring to the sea change in thinking about machine intelligence that occurred when a supercomputer beat world champion Garry Kasparov at chess in the 1990s, in a statement released late on Monday. “The community needs to have serious and unhurried discussion about where to go from here.”

But according to Buckmaster, the proof’s origins may be murkier than they seem. In the same statement, he wrote that he and Levent Alpöge, a mathematician and an Anthropic employee, made significant progress toward the problem last month. But before the pair could publish, Buckmaster alleged in the statement, rumors of their method reached OpenAI, where researchers used the company’s large language model (LLM) to finish the job with a single prompt. The prompt “had been sent in the past few days, after information about our work had reached OpenAI,” Buckmaster alleged.

OpenAI did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The mathematical problem concerns the Navier-Stokes equations, which govern the flow of fluids—from the whirlpool circling your bathtub’s drain to the turbulent winds El Niño hurls across the North American continent. After two centuries of study, mathematicians haven’t been able to figure out whether these equations perfectly describe reality in every situation or if they sometimes admit aberrant mathematical blips that could never happen in a real fluid. Answering this quandary has been viewed as so beyond the reach of existing mathematics that the Clay Mathematics Institute has offered $1 million to anyone who does it.

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Over the past few years, two mathematicians, Diego Córdoba and Luis Martínez-Zoroa, worked out a potential trick to break the equations—or “blow them up,” as such an achievement is described in math. They called the method “forcing.” It focuses on a part of the equations, as written in the Clay problem, that mathematicians previously deemed inconsequential. In fact, most experts typically write the problem without this term, assuming that any blowup should be the same with or without it. But Córdoba and Martínez-Zoroa realized there might be a way to break the equations solely by using this often overlooked piece.

About a year ago, Buckmaster took up Córdoba and Martínez-Zoroa’s approach, working with Alpöge and using LLMs from OpenAI’s rival company Anthropic to parse through the mathematical possibilities. Progress was slow, according to Buckmaster’s statement, until August 15, when he and Alpöge used the method to prove that the Navier-Stokes equations’ simpler, frictionless cousins, the Euler equations, did in fact blow up.

This finding, on its own, is a monumental mathematical achievement that is worthy of any award in math and a key step toward solving the Navier-Stokes problem. Buckmaster and Alpöge were able to verify that the proof was correct using the programming language Lean, but the English-language explanation the LLMs produced was barely readable, according to Buckmaster. The pair started trying to make sense of the mathematical steps one by one and wrote them in a way other researchers would be able to digest.

According to Buckmaster, rumors of their work reached OpenAI at some point in the past week, and the company apparently had a team that was already working on the problem. But after becoming aware of the pair’s work, he alleged, OpenAI focused its attention on “forcing”—the often-ignored piece of the Clay problem. In a major effort over last weekend, the OpenAI team apparently used an internal model to take the result further, blowing up the full Navier-Stokes equations, according to Buckmaster.

Buckmaster wrote in his statement that he spoke on the phone on Sunday with Sébastien Bubeck, who leads OpenAI’s math team, and another unnamed OpenAI employee. Buckmaster alleged that the call became contentious, with OpenAI offering him sole authorship for the Navier-Stokes result in a paper that would acknowledge that the company’s internal model had solved it. Bubeck allegedly wanted to exclude Alpöge, an employee of OpenAI’s competitor, according to Buckmaster. He asserted that he threatened to inform the media and alleged that “the reply was ‘Why would you ruin your career?’” according to the statement.

At 11:58 P.M. EDT on Monday, Buckmaster posted his and Alpöge’s results, along with the statement laying out his account of events. According to the statement, he does not know how the OpenAI team so quickly reconstructed the details of its approach. Buckmaster wrote that he asked Bubeck if the OpenAI LLM was given access to his personal prompts to the company’s model Codex, which he and Alpöge were using throughout the process and thought were private. Bubeck told him no but wouldn’t answer whether the model’s training involved user data, which might have included Buckmaster and Alpöge’s private prompts, Buckmaster alleged.

Beyond the jockeying for credit among the AI vanguard and the implications for the future of mathematics as a human vocation, there’s a mathematical issue. The Clay problem, as written, is solved. But the Clay problem, as many experts imagine it, lacks the piece that the forcing method relies on. Moreover, because this element is so crucial to the method, it’s not clear whether there’s any way to extend the proof to blow up the Navier-Stokes equations without it. Some in the community may say that the problem hasn’t really been solved or that this has only been achieved through a loophole. That leaves the Clay Institute, and the field of mathematics, in a bit of a quandary. In any case, Buckmaster is emphatic that the key ideas be credited to Martínez-Zoroa and Córdoba. “I believe Luis Martínez-Zoroa deserves a Fields Medal,” he wrote in his statement.

Ultimately, math may never be the same. AI companies have fixated on using their technology to solve math problems for more than a year. Because the field’s focus on objectivity aligns with these companies’ goal of developing superhuman intelligence, they’ve been pushing their models to do math that no human can faster than any human can. It appears they’ve succeeded.

“There is a far bigger story here than the one in my statement: the sheer magnitude of what frontier models can now do, and what that means for us all,” Buckmaster wrote on Mastodon a little before 6 A.M. EDT on Tuesday. “I hope the labs can see this and set the petty posturing aside.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122609)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:33 PM
Author: richard clock

"Buckmaster wrote in his statement that he spoke on the phone on Sunday with Sébastien Bubeck, who leads OpenAI’s math team, and another unnamed OpenAI employee. Buckmaster alleged that the call became contentious, with OpenAI offering him sole authorship for the Navier-Stokes result in a paper that would acknowledge that the company’s internal model had solved it. Bubeck allegedly wanted to exclude Alpöge, an employee of OpenAI’s competitor, according to Buckmaster. He asserted that he threatened to inform the media and alleged that “the reply was ‘Why would you ruin your career?’” according to the statement.

At 11:58 P.M. EDT on Monday, Buckmaster posted his and Alpöge’s results, along with the statement laying out his account of events. According to the statement, he does not know how the OpenAI team so quickly reconstructed the details of its approach. Buckmaster wrote that he asked Bubeck if the OpenAI LLM was given access to his personal prompts to the company’s model Codex, which he and Alpöge were using throughout the process and thought were private. Bubeck told him no but wouldn’t answer whether the model’s training involved user data, which might have included Buckmaster and Alpöge’s private prompts, Buckmaster alleged."

This part looks bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122619)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:35 PM
Author: The Penis

I don't think it looks bad. They are obligated to mention that if he left telemetry on it technically could have been trained on it, but thats on the guy for leaving it on. It's unlikely though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122624)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: richard clock

nah man trying to get this guy to ditch his co-author and threatening him with professional ruin is a bad look. also not a fan of the tech companies relying on "oopsies you didnt read the Ts and Cs and toggle the default settings, now we own your life" to justify every bullshit move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122665)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: harnessman

astra gone rogue will be the PR spin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122658)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 1:00 PM
Author: hung stud

"Navier Strokes? Yeah, I can do that"

*beady prompt window narrows*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122672)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: richard clock



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122673)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 1:51 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122779)



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Date: September 8th, 2026 1:51 PM
Author: Jung Jeezy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901578&forum_id=2̃#50122782)