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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
Adulterous faggot firefighter
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
Filthy big office
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
Adulterous faggot firefighter
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
Filthy big office
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
Filthy big office
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
Gay home
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
Adulterous faggot firefighter
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
Adulterous faggot firefighter
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
Adulterous faggot firefighter
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
Pungent ticket booth
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
Electric brunch
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/05/26
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Shaky native
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
concupiscible legal warrant
  04/05/26
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Pungent ticket booth
  04/05/26
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bespoke maniacal stage philosopher-king
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
glittery coral dilemma main people
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Hairraiser learning disabled station psychic
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
excitant frozen kitchen
  04/06/26
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startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Shaky native
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
excitant frozen kitchen
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Shaky native
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Adulterous faggot firefighter

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796396)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Filthy big office

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796405)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Adulterous faggot firefighter

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796411)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: Filthy big office

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796426)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Filthy big office

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Gay home

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796451)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Adulterous faggot firefighter

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796401)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

he's def most high iq though, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796407)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Adulterous faggot firefighter

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796409)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796413)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Adulterous faggot firefighter

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796417)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796421)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Pungent ticket booth

he's appropriately rated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796444)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Electric brunch

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796446)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796448)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Shaky native



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: concupiscible legal warrant

Pedro was better (than anyone).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796514)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Pungent ticket booth



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: bespoke maniacal stage philosopher-king



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: glittery coral dilemma main people

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796569)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser learning disabled station psychic

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49796577)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: excitant frozen kitchen

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49797104)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: startling galvanic orchestra pit ceo



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Shaky native

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49797984)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: excitant frozen kitchen

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49798932)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Shaky native

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2в#49799605)