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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Shimmering Outnumbered Address Shitlib
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
cyan high-end gaping
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
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it was a nanny state.
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Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a sett...
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actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts four...
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13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per y...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Shimmering Outnumbered Address Shitlib

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: cyan high-end gaping

just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: cyan high-end gaping

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM
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Date: May 19th, 2026 8:56 PM
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Date: July 12th, 2026 8:27 PM
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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: Swollen masturbator kitchen

Nigga WTF do you know about this? Why are you so fucking obsessed with whites?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49995563)



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Date: July 12th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: cyan high-end gaping

cumskins dont make trillions of threads about asians though for sure

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Date: July 13th, 2026 5:50 PM
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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:36 PM
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Date: August 4th, 2026 9:58 PM
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: bateful vermilion stag film selfie

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: arousing gold dragon shrine

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: bateful vermilion stag film selfie

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: arousing gold dragon shrine

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: bateful vermilion stag film selfie

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Chartreuse beady-eyed spot

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Disgusting dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: cruel-hearted passionate range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Curious azure legal warrant

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: lascivious lettuce

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: violent well-lubricated becky associate

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Chartreuse beady-eyed spot

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49065206)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: sable yapping school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49518664)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: poppy laughsome sweet tailpipe pisswyrm

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Fishy ticket booth

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: chocolate bespoke trailer park skinny woman

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: plum university gunner

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Hairless office

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49458174)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: plum university gunner

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49495273)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: chocolate bespoke trailer park skinny woman

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49518563)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: pearl corner

13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails

you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids

https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49838409)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: pearl corner

"Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49838410)