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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
histrionic sable school cafeteria
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
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  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
histrionic sable school cafeteria
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
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  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
Thriller chrome gas station sex offender
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
appetizing nighttime ladyboy
  04/05/26
Clemens had the best career of anyone in that era if we igno...
seedy locale pisswyrm
  06/04/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
histrionic sable school cafeteria
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
histrionic sable school cafeteria
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
histrionic sable school cafeteria
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
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  04/05/26
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  06/04/26
he's appropriately rated
lascivious garnet hairy legs
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
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  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
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  04/05/26
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  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
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  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
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Don't drop those BW3s Flamin' Dorito(TM) Hot wings on your c...
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  06/04/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
violent locus
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
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  04/06/26
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cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
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  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
offensive theatre incel
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
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  04/07/26
Oh yeah that is the relevant metric when discussing GOAT vs....
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  06/04/26
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cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  06/04/26
do not google. there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or gr...
Flickering state
  06/04/26
Randy Johnson Clemmons Pedro Ryan Glavine Bab...
cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard
  06/04/26
this career WAR. you got these right. 1. Cy Young+ (22)...
Flickering state
  06/04/26
No Goog
Fishy startled filthpig jewess
  06/04/26
Rivera would have had to pitch for ~40 years to get 100 WAR....
seedy locale pisswyrm
  06/04/26
cr. he's in 80th place for career WAR.
Flickering state
  06/04/26
Walter Johnson Christy Mathewson Steve Carlton
amethyst mental disorder
  06/04/26
Rank Player (yrs, age) WAR for Pitchers IP Throws 1. Cy You...
Flickering state
  06/04/26
Tom Seaver and Phil Niekro have more war than Carlton? Would...
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  06/04/26
old timer with most of his appearances in the 1800s. still, ...
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: histrionic sable school cafeteria

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Thriller chrome gas station sex offender

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: histrionic sable school cafeteria

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: Thriller chrome gas station sex offender

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Thriller chrome gas station sex offender

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: appetizing nighttime ladyboy

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:28 AM
Author: seedy locale pisswyrm

Clemens had the best career of anyone in that era if we ignore PEDs

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: histrionic sable school cafeteria

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: histrionic sable school cafeteria

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: histrionic sable school cafeteria

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: lascivious garnet hairy legs

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Henna razzle cuck digit ratio

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: Haunting Casino

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: lascivious garnet hairy legs



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: cerebral obsidian school queen of the night



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: contagious puppy location

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:42 AM
Author: Marvelous institution pervert

Don't drop those BW3s Flamin' Dorito(TM) Hot wings on your crisp new steph curry jersey, cuck.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: violent locus

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: offensive theatre incel

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: gay indian lodge international law enforcement agency

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: offensive theatre incel

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: gay indian lodge international law enforcement agency

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:44 AM
Author: Marvelous institution pervert

Oh yeah that is the relevant metric when discussing GOAT vs. mere HOF mlb pitching, thanks chung li.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: Flickering state

do not google.

there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard

Randy Johnson

Clemmons

Pedro

Ryan

Glavine

Babe Ruth

Scherzer

Seaver

cy Young

Maddux



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: Flickering state

this career WAR. you got these right.

1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R

3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R

7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R

8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R

9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: Fishy startled filthpig jewess
Subject: No Goog

Clayton Kershaw

Curt Schilling

Mariano Rivera

Bob Gibson

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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:33 AM
Author: seedy locale pisswyrm

Rivera would have had to pitch for ~40 years to get 100 WAR. Relievers just don't get enough innings.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:34 AM
Author: Flickering state

cr. he's in 80th place for career WAR.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:10 AM
Author: amethyst mental disorder

Walter Johnson

Christy Mathewson

Steve Carlton

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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:33 AM
Author: Flickering state

Rank Player (yrs, age) WAR for Pitchers IP Throws

1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R

2. Walter Johnson+ (21) 155.4 5914.1 R

3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R

4. Kid Nichols+ (15) 119.0 5067.1 R

5. Grover Alexander+ (20) 116.9 5190.0 R

6. Lefty Grove+ (17) 113.2 3940.2 L

7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R

8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R

9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L

10. Christy Mathewson+ (17) 100.6 4788.2 R

11. Phil Niekro+ (24) 97.0 5404.0 R

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Date: June 4th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: amethyst mental disorder

Tom Seaver and Phil Niekro have more war than Carlton? Would not have guessed that

Never heard of kid nichols

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Date: June 4th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Flickering state

old timer with most of his appearances in the 1800s. still, "Nichols recorded a 27–19 win–loss record, a 2.23 earned run average (ERA) and 222 strikeouts, beginning a string of 10 consecutive seasons with 20 wins or more. Nichols also had a major league record seven 30-win seasons in this time (1891–1894, 1896–1898) with a career high of 35 in 1892." that'll give you quite a career WAR.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 4:10 PM
Author: cracking frisky public bath haunted graveyard



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