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Failed HBO "prestige" shows

John from Cincinnati Did anyone watch this
mischievous station
  08/01/26
Yes. It was really bad. Did you see Hung? It was better but...
jade corner
  08/01/26
Hung was a great premise but they didn't land the plane. It ...
marvelous sound barrier theatre
  08/01/26
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cerebral hunting ground locus
  08/01/26
The idea that manwhores who only bang chicks exist is very f...
Swashbuckling rough-skinned range
  08/02/26
Never even heard of it
mischievous station
  08/01/26
imagine admitting to watching an hbo show called "hung&...
trip brunch
  08/01/26
No it had a plot and everything
marvelous sound barrier theatre
  08/01/26
Thomas Jane as I recall, around the height of his fame. Don&...
jade corner
  08/02/26
JfC seemed kind of goofy. it had elements of magical realis...
Yapping passionate space antidepressant drug
  08/01/26
Oh yeah, I remember seeing the ads but didn’t ever wat...
jade corner
  08/01/26
I actually liked treme
wonderful turquoise love of her life
  08/01/26
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cerebral hunting ground locus
  08/01/26
I watched a certain amount of it, I hardly remember anything...
wild casino boistinker
  08/02/26
didn't his character get HIV from shooting drugs? lol that's...
wonderful turquoise love of her life
  08/03/26
CARNIVALE
fantasy-prone citrine den
  08/01/26
I wouldn’t say this one failed exactly. They had at le...
jade corner
  08/02/26
Yeah it premiered right after the final Sopranos episode. An...
Opaque temple tattoo
  08/01/26
was gonna say bloodline but i think thats netflix
trip brunch
  08/01/26
Bloodline was the last post-house of cards show I checked ou...
Swashbuckling rough-skinned range
  08/02/26
Dream On
Beady-eyed charcoal base
  08/01/26
I think that was pre-prestige
hideous gaping partner
  08/01/26
yes. i'd say prestige began with the sopranos and probably k...
wonderful turquoise love of her life
  08/03/26
Game of Franzens 'HBO cancelled its star-studded adapta...
histrionic flesh background story
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Lilac Dashing Karate Rigpig
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contagious confused school cafeteria prole
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Doobs of Breezewood
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sable diverse pocket flask
  08/03/26
Vinyl Here and Now The Idol The Nevers Run Ca...
Twisted cracking abode
  08/02/26
yeah cowgod Boardwalk Empire was a huge failure do you ev...
Provocative startling trump supporter national
  08/02/26
It was weird how no one really talked about it though. Like ...
deranged pozpig box office
  08/02/26
i remember it being talked about a lot when it was on. after...
wonderful turquoise love of her life
  08/02/26
(Steve Buscemi)
Twisted cracking abode
  08/02/26
Jfc cowshit grow a beard after this post
Spectacular doobsian ratface
  08/02/26
Vinyl was great, but apparently cost as much as GoT
self-centered glittery psychic house
  08/02/26
Many of those were good and/or ran multiple seasons
self-centered glittery psychic house
  08/02/26
Vinyl The Brink Winning Time Westworld The Deuce Boardw...
Flatulent bespoke lay elastic band
  08/03/26
I got really excited about THE DEUCE because I was a kid in ...
Slimy Fat Ankles Affirmative Action
  08/03/26
wasn't her character like a gutter street walker? It's been ...
Flatulent bespoke lay elastic band
  08/03/26
idr, but the plot definitely required biological men / male ...
Slimy Fat Ankles Affirmative Action
  08/03/26
I think you have to take into consideration that perhaps peo...
Flatulent bespoke lay elastic band
  08/03/26
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66426-the-past-is-a-foreign...
Slimy Fat Ankles Affirmative Action
  08/03/26
westworld lmao
chocolate fear-inspiring toaster
  08/02/26
season 1 was ok but there weren't really any stakes inside t...
coral insanely creepy macaca
  08/02/26
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180 state juggernaut
  08/02/26
Great first season. Rest was crap.
fantasy-prone citrine den
  08/02/26
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cerebral hunting ground locus
  08/03/26
genuine embarrassment thinking back to watching this
jet-lagged point
  08/02/26
Vinyl is their biggest bust ever. John from Cincinnati an...
Dun Dopamine Center
  08/02/26
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umber nowag electric furnace
  08/02/26
Vinyl would have been a hit on a smaller budget if it was al...
self-centered glittery psychic house
  08/02/26
Hot Take: Boardwalk Empire. Maybe too soon to tell but H...
umber nowag electric furnace
  08/02/26
yeah too soon to tell with multiple years between multiple s...
Twisted cracking abode
  08/02/26
I just meant it’s not over yet but I think the writing...
umber nowag electric furnace
  08/02/26
everyone watched boardwalk empire. They just didn’t wa...
Swashbuckling rough-skinned range
  08/02/26
Exactly. It was good not great and definitely not worth a se...
umber nowag electric furnace
  08/02/26
Boardwalk Empire was a great premise and had some great acti...
Opaque temple tattoo
  08/02/26
As usual, I agree with everything you said in this post 😀
umber nowag electric furnace
  08/02/26
Luck was actually pretty good. It was gritty and emotional g...
Concupiscible school
  08/02/26
Wasn't it just that the horses kept dying?
nighttime galvanic whorehouse
  08/02/26
Bored to Death
Amber razzle business firm headpube
  08/02/26
Same
mischievous station
  08/02/26
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self-centered glittery psychic house
  08/02/26
Id have to rewatch but i seem to remember bored to death get...
umber nowag electric furnace
  08/03/26
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The Idol was absolutely unwatchable
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Date: August 1st, 2026 6:36 PM
Author: mischievous station

John from Cincinnati

Did anyone watch this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039726)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: jade corner

Yes. It was really bad. Did you see Hung? It was better but still don’t think it did well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039728)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: marvelous sound barrier theatre

Hung was a great premise but they didn't land the plane. It had moments though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039733)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:06 PM
Author: cerebral hunting ground locus



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 7:11 AM
Author: Swashbuckling rough-skinned range

The idea that manwhores who only bang chicks exist is very far fetched

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040305)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 6:48 PM
Author: mischievous station

Never even heard of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039735)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: trip brunch

imagine admitting to watching an hbo show called "hung" that was the porn show right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039931)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: marvelous sound barrier theatre

No it had a plot and everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039933)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: jade corner

Thomas Jane as I recall, around the height of his fame. Don’t remember who else. There was minimal if any nudity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040488)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 6:53 PM
Author: Yapping passionate space antidepressant drug

JfC seemed kind of goofy. it had elements of magical realism, but was generally too mundane for those elements to mean anything. from what i remember, a lot of it was a domestic drama with annoying and unsympathetic characters.

also, in terms of failed HBO prestige projects, Treme must be one of their biggest flops. they poured a lot of money into that thing, and nobody watched.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039738)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 7:05 PM
Author: jade corner

Oh yeah, I remember seeing the ads but didn’t ever watch it because it looked dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039756)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:02 PM
Author: wonderful turquoise love of her life

I actually liked treme

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040109)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:06 PM
Author: cerebral hunting ground locus



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: wild casino boistinker

I watched a certain amount of it, I hardly remember anything about it.

Steve Zahn sticks out in my mind. I don't remember how though. I don't remember if he sucked, if his character sucked, or if he was good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041878)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 6:23 AM
Author: wonderful turquoise love of her life

didn't his character get HIV from shooting drugs? lol that's about all i remember. good point tho, not a very memorable show at all. compare that with the sopranos, which has dozens of iconic plot points and quotable lines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042118)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 9:01 PM
Author: fantasy-prone citrine den

CARNIVALE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039919)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: jade corner

I wouldn’t say this one failed exactly. They had at least a couple seasons and it had some memorable plot lines and characters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040492)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: Opaque temple tattoo

Yeah it premiered right after the final Sopranos episode. And it fucking sucked. Turned me on to John Strummer though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039921)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: trip brunch

was gonna say bloodline but i think thats netflix

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50039926)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 5:36 AM
Author: Swashbuckling rough-skinned range

Bloodline was the last post-house of cards show I checked out just because it was a new Netflix show. Stopped doing that after that one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040288)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:03 PM
Author: Beady-eyed charcoal base

Dream On

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040110)



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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:53 PM
Author: hideous gaping partner

I think that was pre-prestige

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040170)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 6:24 AM
Author: wonderful turquoise love of her life

yes. i'd say prestige began with the sopranos and probably kicked in around 2000. tv up to that point was slop and for actors who either were washed up or never going to make it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042120)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:21 AM
Author: histrionic flesh background story

Game of Franzens

'HBO cancelled its star-studded adaptation pilot of Jonathan Franzen's novel The Corrections in May 2012. The project was co-written and directed by Noah Baumbach and featured a prominent cast including Ewan McGregor and Maggie Gyllenhaal.'

https://variety.com/2012/tv/news/hbo-says-no-to-the-corrections-1118053386/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040190)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: Lilac Dashing Karate Rigpig



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:58 AM
Author: contagious confused school cafeteria prole



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 6:46 AM
Author: sinister coiffed striped hyena field

Doobs of Breezewood

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Date: August 3rd, 2026 6:02 AM
Author: sable diverse pocket flask



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 6:55 AM
Author: Twisted cracking abode

Vinyl

Here and Now

The Idol

The Nevers

Run

Camping

The Brink

Tell Me You Love Me

The Time Traveler’s Wife

Luck

Enlightened

Togetherness

Looking

Avenue 5

Perry Mason

Winning Time

Lovecraft Country

How to Make It in America

Westworld

The Newsroom

The Deuce

Treme

Boardwalk Empire

The Leftovers

In Treatment

Divorce

The Comeback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040302)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 7:34 AM
Author: Provocative startling trump supporter national

yeah cowgod Boardwalk Empire was a huge failure

do you even curate your ai responses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040317)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 7:40 AM
Author: deranged pozpig box office

It was weird how no one really talked about it though. Like the complete opposite of Sopranos. It was a pretty good show too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040319)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 8:04 AM
Author: wonderful turquoise love of her life

i remember it being talked about a lot when it was on. after it ended, it kinda disappeared tho.

a stripper who sucked my dick in the vip room at club risque in philly was an extra on Vinyl (i went back and watched her episode after). she actually met mick jagger's son on set and he fucked her. i was bummed that show only had one season. i liked it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040337)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: Twisted cracking abode

(Steve Buscemi)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040356)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:22 AM
Author: Spectacular doobsian ratface

Jfc cowshit grow a beard after this post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040440)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 6:11 PM
Author: self-centered glittery psychic house

Vinyl was great, but apparently cost as much as GoT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041393)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:28 PM
Author: self-centered glittery psychic house

Many of those were good and/or ran multiple seasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041855)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 6:07 AM
Author: Flatulent bespoke lay elastic band

Vinyl

The Brink

Winning Time

Westworld

The Deuce

Boardwalk Empire

Never heard of half of these, but the above were entertaining. Some of these got multiple seasons, tough to call them flops. Also FUCKKKK that shit Rome was one of the GOAT HBO shows and only got what 2 seasons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042106)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: Slimy Fat Ankles Affirmative Action

I got really excited about THE DEUCE because I was a kid in mfh when times square was squalid, and I generally like old new york stuff. and there was a pretty hot latina, iirc

but i quickly realized that watching the show involved committing to the bit that maggie gyllenhall (sp?) was sexually attractive, and that was that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042296)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: Flatulent bespoke lay elastic band

wasn't her character like a gutter street walker? It's been a while but I recall her arc being more about GRLLLL power OMG SHE'S A HOOK BUT SMART and figuring out how to monetize selling her pussy and grift some paper off the jew pornographer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042299)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: Slimy Fat Ankles Affirmative Action

idr, but the plot definitely required biological men / male at birth, with cisgender penises, heterosexual and straight, wanting to have sex with her, and even trading money for the opportunity.

i can watch flying dragons, etc., but there are limits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042301)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: Flatulent bespoke lay elastic band

I think you have to take into consideration that perhaps people were uglier in the 70s, they had little to no access to porn or swipe fuck apps and some of these sweaty, combover bald fat middle aged men might have been desperate enough to fuck her or even worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042309)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:37 AM
Author: Slimy Fat Ankles Affirmative Action

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66426-the-past-is-a-foreign-country-they-do-things-differently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042321)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 7:25 AM
Author: chocolate fear-inspiring toaster

westworld lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040314)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: coral insanely creepy macaca

season 1 was ok but there weren't really any stakes inside the Westworld because characters couldnt die like they could in the Matrix iirc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040344)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:53 AM
Author: 180 state juggernaut



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: fantasy-prone citrine den

Great first season. Rest was crap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040437)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 12:30 AM
Author: cerebral hunting ground locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041976)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 6:14 PM
Author: jet-lagged point

genuine embarrassment thinking back to watching this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041401)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 8:09 AM
Author: Dun Dopamine Center

Vinyl is their biggest bust ever.

John from Cincinnati and Treme (which I liked) are probably on the podium.

Their overall track record is pretty amazing over like nearly 30 years of doing this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040342)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:02 AM
Author: umber nowag electric furnace



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: self-centered glittery psychic house

Vinyl would have been a hit on a smaller budget if it was allowed the room for seasons 2 and 3. Season 1 was incredible but it’s per episode cost was more than GoT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041858)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:03 AM
Author: umber nowag electric furnace

Hot Take: Boardwalk Empire.

Maybe too soon to tell but House of the Dragon is horrifically bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040373)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:02 AM
Author: Twisted cracking abode

yeah too soon to tell with multiple years between multiple seasons heretofore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040423)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:00 PM
Author: umber nowag electric furnace

I just meant it’s not over yet but I think the writings on the wall. 2nd season was a pretty big let down and this season has been much worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041725)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:08 AM
Author: Swashbuckling rough-skinned range

everyone watched boardwalk empire. They just didn’t watch a second time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040428)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: umber nowag electric furnace

Exactly. It was good not great and definitely not worth a second watch unlike its predecessors like sopranos, wire and 6 feet under.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041722)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:15 AM
Author: Opaque temple tattoo

Boardwalk Empire was a great premise and had some great acting but the plot went nowhere.

Dragon Show 2 is a sequel to a series that ran out of gas even before the OG concluded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040432)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: umber nowag electric furnace

As usual, I agree with everything you said in this post 😀

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041723)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:06 AM
Author: Concupiscible school

Luck was actually pretty good. It was gritty and emotional guess it couldn’t hold an audience though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50040375)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:21 PM
Author: nighttime galvanic whorehouse

Wasn't it just that the horses kept dying?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041842)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:13 PM
Author: Amber razzle business firm headpube

Bored to Death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50041737)



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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: mischievous station

Same

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Date: August 2nd, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: self-centered glittery psychic house



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: umber nowag electric furnace

Id have to rewatch but i seem to remember bored to death getting better as it progressed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888491&forum_id=2…id#50042257)



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:35 AM
Author: electric faggotry forum



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Date: August 3rd, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: medicated lake useless brakes

The Idol was absolutely unwatchable

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