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University of Florida has a 170 median LSAT now
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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:20 AM Author: frisky duck-like background story Per Reddit, Florida reports incoming class stats of 170 median LSAT, 3.97 UGPA, & 13.5% acceptance rate.
In 2011, this would have put Florida at #7 for LSAT (behind H, Y, Columbia, NYU, Chicago, Duke), #1 for UGPA, & #6 for selectivity (behind Y, UVa, Stanford, Cal, H)
https://x.com/derektmuller/status/2086879825562620189
https://law.ufl.edu/admissions-aid/admitted-students/entering-class-profile/#jd-stats |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:23 AM Author: floppy institution thats ridiculopus is it free if u have goods stats? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060334) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:24 AM Author: frisky duck-like background story Yes or black (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060335) |
Date: August 11th, 2026 8:25 AM Author: Aphrodisiac becky prole I overheard several people calling this the “Harvard of the South” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060337) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:33 AM Author: Mauve magical rigpig locus LSAT is watered down now
A 170 is like a 162 20 years ago |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:06 AM Author: marvelous indirect expression cruise ship Hell yeah, I got a 186 on my LSAT then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060376) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:50 AM Author: Galvanic field double fault 186 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060556) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:45 PM Author: Henna wonderful liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062555) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 7:19 PM Author: bearded cream trailer park 186 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50061995) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:01 AM Author: stirring lilac base kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060440) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:53 AM Author: Chrome Supple Address This would only make sense if the medians at the top 10 LS were all 180. Otherwise it suggests some other factor eg that T10 law schools have stopped emphasizing LSAT and have started to reject high LSAT scorers in favor of other, dumber students like the UCs did for UG applicants (and/or that a logic games free LSAT has been judged by law firms, the ultimate customers of T10 law schools, to be worthless). Seems insane to me given that 20 years ago I literally heard a V5 partner who chaired her firms hiring committee recite the median LSAT scores for all of the top 10 off the top of her head and she was visibly aroused ie there was a wet spot in the crotch of her pants suit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060563) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: alcoholic topaz ladyboy internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060634) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:04 AM Author: autistic zippy lodge I think they autoadmit a lot of their own UG students no LSAT required if they have good grades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060371) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:01 AM Author: narrow-minded appetizing locale You can only do that for 10% of the class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060439) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:06 AM Author: spruce meetinghouse mood how is this even remotely possible? isn't florida a lower T50? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060377) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:02 AM Author: mentally impaired stead french chef They got rid of logic games and you can get double time without it being reported on your test results (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060441) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:06 AM Author: spruce meetinghouse mood are you serious? lmao, wtf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060454) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:07 AM Author: mentally impaired stead french chef 100% serious, they're holding space for black/brown/disabled bodies and I'm here for it! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060457) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:12 AM Author: spruce meetinghouse mood that's really great to hear brother! glad they're doing this, as there is a very high bar to entry to the legal profession. it needs to be lowered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060470) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: Onyx concupiscible national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060703) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:47 PM Author: translucent potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062459) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:56 PM Author: lime love of her life Hopefully they'll open additional schools to ensure adequate supply of lawyers for all in need (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062573) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:14 AM Author: mentally impaired stead french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063063) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:58 AM Author: narrow-minded appetizing locale Wash U has a median LSAT of 175. Better than HYS. It's criminal. Imagine what kind of mouthbreathing retard you'd have to be to take Wash U--either because you got a 3.3 from directional state U or because you think the "value" of Super SLU scholarship dollars is "worth it." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060435) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:21 AM Author: pungent nowag keepsake machete appropriate moniker. if you work hard one day maybe your kids can go to chaminade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060491) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:33 AM Author: narrow-minded appetizing locale John Burroughs, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060519) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: pungent nowag keepsake machete (bryan cave partner) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060551) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:54 AM Author: narrow-minded appetizing locale (Armstrong Teasdale Of Counsel) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060564) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 6:38 PM Author: Lavender mad cow disease goyim sam altman's school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50061873) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:25 AM Author: autistic zippy lodge We all should have taken the money at WUSTL 20 years ago knowing it would be a top 10 law school when we died. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060504) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:33 AM Author: narrow-minded appetizing locale Yeah or you could end up a drunk broke fat divorced slobmo like Stabby. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060520) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: talented mexican stab stab
remember jakki |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: light university community account Why does wustl spend its money this way? It's not like it has a higher endowment than its peers? It'd make more sense if like notre dame did it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060715) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: Sienna fluffy new version its not criminal at all. very civil imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060798) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 11:34 AM Author: Hot Tanning Salon Ugrad also has insane numbers. In-state tuition is very cheap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060650) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:10 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Ape Hospital Everyone is student-loaned pilled. Stats for state flagships have shot up because of all the kids chasing the low tuition. For law schools you'll see even more of that since the top schools don't give away money like the ivies and elite schools do for undergrad. And everyone is pretty clued in to the crazy variability in legal careers after graduation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060730) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 6:18 PM Author: Hot Tanning Salon They're not wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50061812) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: Maize flirting church toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062042) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:21 PM Author: pungent nowag keepsake machete is the LSAT not curved anymore? how can all these people break 170? that was 98th% when i took it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060756) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:54 PM Author: self-centered area travel guidebook it was like 98.9 when i took it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062570) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 12:37 PM Author: Mahogany confused really tough guy haunted graveyard TSINAH-free thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50060784) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:45 PM Author: Henna wonderful liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062556) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:01 PM Author: crimson 180 black woman (University of Florida CEO) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062123) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:16 PM Author: bespoke hyperventilating business firm sex offender How are supposedly smart people so stupid?
Why wouldn't they request a standardized test that has more of a spread?
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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Hot Tanning Salon The people that run shit want an admissions system that give them maximal flexibility to select whoever they want so that a) they can set up their friends and family, and b) so that they can do their social engineering exercises.
Your entire assumption is that they want a meritocracy. They do not. |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:45 PM Author: translucent potus URBOI weeping, gnashing teeth, tightly clutching thin envelope from U Florida (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062455) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 10:46 PM Author: Henna wonderful liquid oxygen There are many layers of fraud here, and it's all fraud, all the way down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50062557) |
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Date: August 11th, 2026 11:05 PM Author: Slap-happy Copper Den A surviving Empire State University archive reproduces an old LSAT score report table for the 2000–2003 testing years. It explicitly says the figures are the percentage of test scores below each scaled score. That makes it directly comparable with LSAC's current 2023–2026 percentile table, which defines percentile the same way.
Same LSAT score: then vs. now LSAT 2000–03 percentile 2023–26 percentile Top % then Top % now 160 82.6 71.06 17.4% 28.94% 165 93.3 85.17 6.7% 14.83% 170 98.1 94.48 1.9% 5.52% 175 99.7 98.72 0.3% 1.28% 176 99.8 99.08 0.2% 0.92% 177 99.8 99.34 0.2% 0.66% 178 99.9 99.57 0.1% 0.43% 179 99.9 99.74 0.1% 0.26% 180 99.9 99.85 0.1%* 0.15%*
*The published percentiles are rounded, so the extreme-tail complements aren't precise counts.
That means a 170 is roughly three times as common relative to the testing population today:
2000–03: about 1.9% scored 170 or higher. 2023–26: about 5.52% score 170 or higher.
And 175+ is roughly four times as common: about 0.3% then versus about 1.28% now. Because the old percentiles are reported only to one decimal place, don't take the 4.27× ratio as exact, but the magnitude is unmistakable.
The weirdly neat result: about four LSAT points
If instead we ask, "What current score gives you approximately the same percentile rank as an old score?", this falls out:
Around 2000 Percentile Approx. equivalent today 160 82.6th 164 — 82.75th 165 93.3rd 169 — 93.03rd 170 98.1st 174 — 98.24th 175 99.7th 179 — 99.74th
So across an enormous part of the upper distribution, there's an almost eerie pattern:
An LSAT score from ~2000 is worth about four points more in percentile terms than the same numerical score today.
A 170 in 2000–03 had roughly the relative rarity of a 174 today. A 175 then had roughly the rarity of a 179 today. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:22 AM Author: autistic zippy lodge Ok, so 170 now is like 166 20 years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063080) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 11:09 AM Author: Henna wonderful liquid oxygen 160,000 people took the LSAT and got reportable scores in 2025.
5.5% of them getting 170+ is pretty wild. That used to be a very good score. Now, 8,800 people per year score 170+ (with some adjusting for repeat takers). And there are still only about 1,000 seats at HYS, probably about 4,000 across all of the T14.
And--there are probably fewer and fewer seats for people to "earn" via LSAT scores as schools allow direct admission for some of their undergrads and for certain students who don't care to submit an LSAT score. Nevermind the test takers with extended time and the people cheating on remote tests. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:16 AM Author: maniacal canary market fanboi how is this happening? they cut logic games right. and all the test takes apply for fraud accommodation now to have unlimited time, while juiced full of adderall? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063068) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:41 AM Author: Cerebral Bearded Gay Wizard Not a lolyer, but can someone explain why they'd cut logic games from the test? I understand that the SAT also cut analogies and substantially simplified the reading comp section. Obviously the effect there was to have more asians super study since it's not an aptitude test anymore.
What was the explicit reason given for the change? (Obviously the implicit reason was "we need more black and brown lawyers!" - even if they can't handle the work). |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:44 AM Author: autistic zippy lodge logic games was more gimmicky and learnable anyway. logical reasoning was the pure scholarship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063117) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:46 AM Author: Cerebral Bearded Gay Wizard Was that cut as well? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063124) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:48 AM Author: autistic zippy lodge just games i think, and they replaced it with something else maybe...some gay shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063126) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:26 PM Author: Hot Tanning Salon Yes, they're learnable but that's a feature not a bug. Dumb people couldn't learn them and if you can't learn them then you're not smart enough to learn more complicated shit in law either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063505) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 2:38 PM Author: puce hall private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063804) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 11:01 AM Author: pungent nowag keepsake machete people said they were unrelated to the practice of law. to me they were the best part. as absurd as it is, i literally owe my life to games because when i found out they were on the LSAT i knew that i could crush it and get into a good school. i would've done something else if the games weren't there. they're very learnable, but when you time and curve it it's basically an IQ test, which of course doesn't work out well for a certain subset of the population. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063264) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 11:18 AM Author: Henna wonderful liquid oxygen Logic games was about as related to the practice of law as the other two sections. It was all about how information relates. "John can't sit next to Sally; Sally must sit across from Bill" is similar to "7.2 and how it works with 9.6."
And your point about time limit is cr. Any smartmo should be able to get close to 180 with sufficient time. The test is challenging because there is a lot to do in a short time. That's what made it a good test.
Oh btw, 99% of accomodation requests are approved (hehe): https://www.lsac.org/data-research/research/lsat-performance-regional-gender-racialethnic-repeater-and-accommodation
It would have felt like cheating to me to get an accomodation, even though I would surely qualify. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: pungent nowag keepsake machete jfc it makes a mockery of the whole thing. we must defend the standard distribution curve at all costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063335) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: Henna wonderful liquid oxygen Yes, unironically. It's example number X thousand of society crumbling around us. We used to have a tool to identify talent. Now, we have yet another a race to the bottom.
It's part and parcel with it making more and more sense to either go on the dole or just stick your hand in someone else's pocket, rather than working hard and paying your taxes, which are now 50%+. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 2:39 PM Author: puce hall private investor libs have shit for brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063807) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 2:23 PM Author: Cerebral Bearded Gay Wizard Some might even say the old LSAT accurately tested for Burst IQ.
Truly a disgrace what has been done for the sake of "equity." LMAO. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 2:39 PM Author: puce hall private investor libs have shit for brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063809) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:27 PM Author: Hot Tanning Salon Same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891884&forum_id=2…id#50063509) |