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Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
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just walk outside bro
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
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Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: hilarious state windowlicker

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: razzmatazz double fault hominid



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Silver talented new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Racy sticky round eye scourge upon the earth

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: out-of-control anal potus gas station

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: bearded puce stock car

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: hilarious state windowlicker

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49065206)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: pink vigorous brethren



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: arousing walnut orchestra pit

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Sandwich Mood

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Gaped roommate

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Deranged cheese-eating forum

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: laughsome disturbing market personal credit line

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49458174)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Deranged cheese-eating forum

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49495273)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: Gaped roommate

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49518563)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal balding stage partner

13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails

you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids

https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49838409)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal balding stage partner

"Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2…id#49838410)