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Date: July 14th, 2026 12:40 AM Author: Vibrant Stage Why did it take so long? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998216)

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Date: July 14th, 2026 12:49 AM Author: boyish jade wrinkle pozpig yeah no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998222)

Date: July 14th, 2026 1:25 AM Author: concupiscible heaven fanboi Why not? Ancients had letters/symbols, metal, ink, and paper-like stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998257)

Date: July 14th, 2026 1:34 AM Author: Vibrant Stage The paper Gutenberg used was made from cloth fibers. It was stupid easy. He got the idea for the machine from looking at German wine presses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998259)

Date: July 14th, 2026 1:37 AM Author: boyish jade wrinkle pozpig Are we talking a gutenberg type press or something equivalent to a stamp? 6000 BCE had people who could carve a design and repeatedly impress it into clay. Engraved stamp seals are known from the seventh millennium BCE. A press for mass producing written pages is a different thing and none of the shit needed existed. For instance you mention "paper-like stuff". The earliest known papyrus rolls are like maybe 3000 BCE. The type of ink that can be used for printing did not exist at all back then, in order for gutenberg to work it needed all kinds of innovations in oil based ink. The metal type needed was not realistic for the time (need standardization and repeatable castign). And also they didn't even having writing yet. Earliest full writing systems were like 3K BCE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998261)

Date: July 14th, 2026 1:39 AM Author: Vibrant Stage If they had cloth they could have made paper. You don't need trees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998263)

Date: July 14th, 2026 1:46 AM Author: boyish jade wrinkle pozpig correct that you don't need trees. does not follow that therefore anyone who had cloth could easily have invented paper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998271)

Date: July 14th, 2026 1:53 AM Author: boyish jade wrinkle pozpig Early Roman Empire is probably the earliest for something recognizably like a printing press (50-200 AD). I think you could have had simple block printing a little earlier, like think a Roman or late-hellenistic workshop carving an entire page in relief on wood or another material, inked it and pressed papyrus on it. Mechanical page printing though, Early Roman empire. For movable metal type maybe late Roman Empire from 200-400 AD, but still unlikely. Roman metallurgy probably could produce the individual letter pieces. They definitely could cast bronze letters, but movable type is a lot harder than that. That's probably the absolute lower bound for something like a Gutenberg-like system. But still really unlikely. Would say 800-1200 AD is a good estimate for when it really became feasible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882549&forum_id=2�id.#49998274)

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